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Big time FM guy. We are just behind Columbia and Manatee in total wins in FL. I think we will add at least 10 this year. We got thinned out a few years ago with the opening of Dunbar and South. Will try to keep u informed on SWF football. Make that 4. Lakeland is ahead of us too

Thanks Columbia Fan and Josh.

Below are 100 schools that opened since 1992 in the most populous areas of Florida. Only 23 of those schools made the playoffs last year, and only 11 of them won a playoff game. Amongst those who didn't, relatively few have had significant success in football since the school opened, and for those that did, the success was often short-lived. Hillsborough County is the poster child for this phenomenon. The 100 schools below have won a total of 203 playoff games between them. 20 of those 200 victories were by Bartram Trail. Listed after each team is the number of playoff (p/o) wins by each school since they opened. 43 of the schools have never won a playoff game. Teams in bold below made the playoffs last season. 38% of teams in Classes 1A-8A presently make the playoffs each year. So, the number of teams below that made the playoffs last season is disproportionately low. The amount of big, new schools is unprecedented in Florida's history. Existing schools are becoming mega-schools, like Lehigh High below, potentially moving them up in class to an even more competitive environment. https://www.news-press.com/story/news/education/2018/07/06/lehigh-senior-high-growing-into-mega-school-rapid-growth/760552002/ The upper classes have become loaded with "newer" schools. In a sense, they have been thrown into the fire before their programs have a chance to get traction. And even after 20 years, some are still struggling. With the current environment of talent concentrating at less and less schools, one has to wonder if these programs will ever get traction. The number of schools in Florida will no doubt increase in the future. At this rate, will our upper classes become even more flooded with mediocre teams unless we develop a strategy beyond classifying by population? Totals below by class: 8A-26 teams 7A-35 teams 6A-18 teams 5A-14 teams 4A-3 teams 3A-1 team 2A-1 team 1A-1 team Independent-1 teams Brevard County Bayside(6A) 1998 4 p/o wins Heritage(6A) 2009 5 p/o wins Space Coast(5A) 2001 0 p/o wins Viera(7A) 2006 7 p/o wins Broward County Coral Glades(Ind) 2004 0 p/o wins Coral Springs Charter(4A) 1999 0 p/o wins Cypress Bay(8A) 2002 10 p/o wins Everglades(8A) 2003 2 p/o wins Flanagan(8A) 1996 9 p/o wins Monarch(8A) 2003 0 p/o wins West Broward(7A) 2008 1 p/o wins Clay County Fleming Island(7A) 2003 9 p/o wins Oakleaf(7A) 2010 2 p/o wins Ridgeview(5A) 1998 2 p/o wins Collier County Golden Gate(6A) 2004 0 p/o wins Gulf Coast(7A) 1998 0 p/o wins Palmetto Ridge(6A) 2005 0 p/o wins Duval County Atlantic Coast(7A) 2010 0 p/o wins Escambia Northview(1A) 1996 9 p/o wins West Florida(5A) 2001 6 p/o wins Flagler County Matanzas(6A) 2005 0 p/o wins Hernando County Nature Coast(5A) 2003 3 p/o wins Weeki Wachee(5A) 2010 0 p/o wins Hillsborough Alonso(8A) 2001 1 p/o wins Blake(6A) 1997 3 p/o wins Durant(7A) 1995 5 p/o wins Freedom(7A) 2002 0 p/o wins Lennard(7A) 2006 2 p/o wins Middleton 2002(5A) (reopened) 2 p/o wins Newsome(8A) 2003 3 p/o wins Riverview(8A) 1998 2 p/o wins Sickles(7A) 1997 3 p/o wins Spoto(5A) 2006 1 p/o win Steinbrenner(8A) 2009 0 p/o wins Strawberry Crest(7A) 2009 0 p/o wins Wharton(7A) 1997 6 p/o wins Indian River County Sebastian River(6A) 1994 1 p/o win Lake County East Ridge(7A) 2002 6 p/o wins Lake Minneola(7A) 2011 0 p/o wins South Lake(6A) 1993 1 p/o win Lee County East Lee County(6A) 2007 0 p/o wins Ida S Baker(6A) 2004 0 p/o wins Island Coast(6A) 2007 4 p/o wins Lehigh(6A) 1994 2 p/o wins Leon County Chiles(7A) 1999 0 p/o wins St John Paul II(2A) 2001 0 p/o wins Manatee Braden River(7A) 2005 8 p/o wins Lakewood Ranch(7A) 1998 2 p/o wins Marion County Belleview(5A) 1995 7 p/o wins Westport(7A) 2000 1 p/0 win Martin County Jensen Beach(6A) 2004 0 p/o wins Miami-Dade County Dr Krop(8A) 1998 4 p/o wins Ferguson(8A) 2003 0 p/o wins Goleman(7A) 1995 1 p/o win Hialeah Gardens(8A) 2009 0 p/o wins Reagan(7A) 2006 0 p/o wins Varela(8A) 2000 0 p/o wins Westland(7A) 2007 0 p/o wins Nassau County Yulee(5A) 2006 (reopened) 3 p/o wins Orange County Cypress Creek(8A) 1992 0 p/o wins East River(7A) 2009 0 p/o wins Freedom(8A) 2003 0 p/o wins Lake Nona(7A) 2009 0 p/o wins Ocoee(7A) 2005 0 p/o wins Olympia(8A) 2001 1 p/o win Timber Creek(8A) 2001 4 p/o wins Wekiva(8A) 2007 3 p/o wins Windermere(7A) 2017 0 p/o wins Osceola County Celebration(7A) 2003 0 p/o wins Harmony(7A) 2004 2 p/o wins Liberty(7A) 2007 0 p/o wins Palm Beach County Boynton Beach(6A) 2001 0 p/o wins Palm Beach Central(8A) 2003 2 p/o wins Park Vista(8A) 2004 3 p/o wins Royal Palm Beach(7A) 1997 5 p/o wins West Boca(7A) 2004 2 p/o wins Pasco County Anclote(5A) 2009 0 p/o wins Fivay(5A) 2010 0 p/o wins Mitchell(6A) 2000 2 p/o wins Sunlake(6A) 2007 2 p/o wins Wesley Chapel(5A) 1999 0 p/o wins Wiregrass Ranch(7A) 2006 1 p/o wins Pinellas Calvary Christian(3A) 2000 1 p/o wins Palm Harbor(8A) 1996 1 p/o win Polk County George Jenkins(8A) 1993 0 p/o wins Lake Region(6A) 1995 0 p/o wins Ridge(8A) 2005 2 p/o wins Tenoroc(4A) 2008 0 p/o wins St Johns Bartram Trail(7A) 2000 20 p/o wins Creekside(7A) 2008 1 p/o win Menendez(5A) 2000 1 p/o wins Ponte Vedra(5A) 2008 5 p/o wins St Lucie County Centennial(8A) 1998 2 p/o wins Treasure Coast(8A) 2006 1 p/o wins Sarasota North Port(7A) 2001 0 p/o wins Seminole County Hagerty(7A) 2005 0 p/o wins Winter Springs(8A) 1997 1 p/o win Volusia Atlantic(4A) 1994 1 p/o win Pine Ridge(6A) 1994 0 p/o wins University(8A) 2010 0 p/o wins

Hillsborough County Coaches 30%(9/30) of the coaches below are new. 53%(16/30) have been at their present school 1 year or less. 30%(9/30) have been at their present school 5 years or more. Relative to other other populous counties, Hillsborough County has a good number of seasoned/tenured coaches. However, with 53% of coaches at their school 1 year or less, it reflects a substantial amount of "churn." Note the coaching continuity at most of the schools that have been winning the most of late. *3 winning seasons in a row 9 of Hillsborough County's 30 major football programs have new head coaches this season. Alonso-Ron Perisee 10-19 3-season record Brandon-Antonio Brown 16-17 3-season record Freedom-Henry Scurry 9-20 3-season record Jefferson-Joe Midulla 20-14 3-season record King-??? 5-27 3-season record Newsome-CJ Yockey 15-15 3-season record Robinson-Craig Everhart 11-16 3-season record Spoto-Melvin Jenkins 8-21 3-season record *Tampa Catholic-Jeris McIntyre 23-11 3-season record Returning Coaches *Armwood-Evan Davis 1 season 38-4 3-season record *Berkeley Prep-Dominic Ciao 11 seasons 20-11 3-season record Blake-Duane Thomas 1 season 13-17 3-season record Bloomingdale-Max Warner 2 seasons 14-17 3-season record Chamberlain-Jason Lane 2 seasons 16-15 3-season record *Durant-Mike Gottman 15 seasons 21-11 3-season record *East Bay-Frank Larosa-7 seasons 17-12 3-season record Gaither-Kirk Karsen 1 season 16-15 3-season record *Jesuit-Matt Thompson 5 seasons 31-7 3-season record Hillsborough-Earl Garcia 25 seasons 20-12 3-season record Lennard-Matt Kitchie 1season 9-22 3-season record Leto-Joey Jaime 1 season 1-29 3-season record Middleton-Fred Reid 3 seasons 13-18 3-season record *Plant-Robert Weiner 14 seasons 34-7 3-season record Plant City-James Booth 1 season 21-11 3-season record Riverview-William Mosel 1 season 11-19 3-season record Sickles-Patrick Murphy-2 seasons 13-18 3-season record Steinbrenner- Andres Perez-Reinaldo 6 seasons 16-13 3-season record Strawberry Crest-Ron Hawn 2 seasons 2-28 3-season record *Tampa Bay Tech-Jayson Roberts 7 seasons 27-9 3-season record Wharton-David Mitchell 13 seasons 14-15 3-season record

You can’t judge teams using the recruiting services like you used to. Rivals, Scout, etc. used to identify all the 2-3 star guys their sophomore and junior years. Now, and this is the exact science so listen...... they focus almost entirely on the 4-5 stars. When players get Power 5 offers their junior year they become a 3-star, and when players get an FBS offer their senior year they become a 2-star. You will only find about 10% (sophs) to 40% (juniors) of the future FBS level sophomores/juniors (respectively) in any database. Back as recent as 2012 or so, the services really allowed you to to search by school and class. Not any more.

I'd be very surprised if Pinellas Park doesn't win 7A - District 10.

Read on another post about Lee County teams not making the state finals. Yes no championships but Bishop Verot was left off. Lost 21-0 to Lake Butler in 1994 and 17-14 to Bolles in 1990 fyi

Bartram Trail opened in 2000 not 2010.

Dan Burke does a great job at Palm Bay.

I can only think of one game in which a titan from FL met one of the top 10 teams in Texas(based on end-of-season results) from a certain year..the Northwestern vs Southlake Carrroll game in 2007. Maybe I am forgetting some. IMO a game like that would have as much intrigue as any OOS game one could schedule...ie vs Lake Travis, Allen, Katy, etc.

As I implied earlier, compiling the data was not meant to be an exercise in perfection with strict criteria, and I didn't advertise it as some masterpiece to prove a point. Sometimes I do things for myself and think "Gee, maybe some others might like to see this." It's a random set of data. Take it for what it is. I don't see too many others idiots like myself posting things for others to enjoy at midnight. All of the FL teams listed above were legitimate state title contenders in the years they were listed, so to consider them "inferior" does not speak well for Florida football. Concerning Tucker and Stephenson, they are rock solid programs, but not what most GA folks would consider the most worthy of GA teams to deserve a national ranking. I used "loose" criteria to define "top-ranked" OOS competitiors. Did not include teams that ended the year ranked outside the top 200 on Maxpreps. Is there better criteria? I'm sure. Did I care for the purposes of what I was doing and was I willing to dedicate any more time to the exercise than I already did? No. If anyone out there got something out of the data, I am glad I shared it.

In addition to contributions from us, it would need some kind of corporate sponsorship to sustain itself. That is hard to attain here in Florida. For what it's worth, I plan on making a contribution once I do my budget for the remainder of the year. Unfortunately, it will be constrained by the fact I am now a retiree. Back in the day, I was able to get your buddies some corporate advertising from my then employer. However, it was too little to make a serious dent in their needs. It's a pity as I feel AL and CK did a great job and I certainly miss their board and broadcasts!

What do we gain from playing Fort White If they somehow win we look weak but if we win it's expected We have nothing to gain but everything to lose by playing