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On 12/7/2023 at 8:45 PM, Vero Indian said:
Are they still having this event next week???
Don’t think so
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If any program needs a shot in the arm its Chamberlain. Their tradition was ripped away from them when their nickname of 60 years was taken away by PC jackasses. It seems like their winning traditions have been forgotten. Wilder was a sophomore LB/RB at Chamberlain before transferring to Plant so he has ties to the school. He probably would’ve stayed at Chamberlain if they would’ve named Turner’s son as the head coach but he went to Plant and won state titles and national acclaim.
From from what I understand he is a high energy and sophisticated coach. Hoping he does great to revive the Chiefs (I mean the storm). The talent flooded out at Chamberlain about 10 to 15 years ago and never came back. Hopefully he will draw some players. I know he’s been running fb camps for quite a while.
Good luck Coach!!
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I got to watch 3 or 4 games and congrats to the winners. Couldn’t watch Lakeland v Venice bc of Christmas party but followed on score stream.
Chaminade is probably the class of the state.
Columbus looked good. BP looked good. If Homestead could kick a FG most of us on here would be celebrating.
lakeland and mainland won classics.
Bradford was tough and played Cocoa fairly close.
looking forward to things going back to normal next year with seven classes and that open division will make teams like Chaminade and St. Thomas earn titles (although this year was probably the year to get STA) Should be interesting.
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definitely wouldn’t qualify This as one of the biggest upsets. Berkeley beat American Heritage the week before who has a much better pedigree the Norland.
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BP was just better than Norland. Maybe they were just overrated.
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17 hours ago, h8r said:
2 Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood) 13-0 72.20 26.9
3 St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale) 13-1 69.40 36.4
4 Cocoa 13-1 64.60 36.0
5 Norland (Miami) 14-0 63.60 33.3
6 Venice 12-2 58.80 29.4
7 Mandarin (Jacksonville) 11-3 56.30 33.7
8 Buchholz (Gainesville) 13-1 56.30 34.9
9 Central (Miami) 8-4 55.80 43.6This is the top 8(IMG was 1st)....
according to maxpreps rankings, which is what they will be using
thats 8 loaded teams and 4 or 5 state champs and all 8 could possibly win state titles
Columbus just routed Mandarin. Clown rankings. Clown Association . Can’t rely on phony 3rd party rankings. Have to use a point system.
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for the open division, I don’t think it should be based on any sort of hokie ranking. It should be based on a point system. X amount of points for state titles won within the last five years, X amount of points for total playoff wins in the last five years, X amount of total wins over the last five years, X amount of points for winning percentage over the last five years.
I would also exclude all rural teams from the open division. There’s no way that a small rural team would be able to compete with chaminade. Ever. Not enough of a population to draw from.
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Best game?
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On 12/1/2023 at 10:25 PM, JaxTCA2010stateCHAMP said:
Ccc 39 Jax tca 32.
Idk what happened to our defense in the second half but we couldn't tackle $#!t.
We held them to 7 in the first half but the second half CCC did whatever that wanted to.
good game watched part of the stream
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17 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Hillsborough providing cannon fodder to the South Florida schools. Plant and Gaither are not state semi final teams in any other bracket other than what the FHSAA forces everyone to endure.
Running clocks should not be happening in a large class state semi final. So anti-climatic
STA is going to running clock any team at this point. you can put any public team in there you’d like other than maybe Norland and Cocoa and they will get running clocked by STA.
again, I completely disagree with most of your stuff lately. You’re not convincing me that any class is super strong. You might have a better team at the top, like St. Thomas, or maybe Norland, but your logic is lacking on this.
it’s easy to climb on to super recruited school from South Florida. You seem to be good at it.
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I don’t think plant would be much of an underdog against either monarch or Mandarin. Although they would both certainly be quality opponents, clearly the biggest stumbling block for plant is Columbus. I was envisioning this game taking place in Tallahassee, not in Miami. As such, it’s probably unlikely they get through this roadblock. Gaither will likely get blown out. Berkeley has a decent shot. Really not sure if Norland or AHP is the favorite in the class, but they have a puncher’s chance.
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4M- Plant @ Columbus- Plant first time back in the semis in several years. Columbus defending state champs. Plant's best offensive player re-injured his nagging ankle injury Friday night but they still found a way. 11 in a row. Only two losses were close to BP who is still alive (see below) and Tech, who just lost a close one to Jones. Plant will need to find at least 24 points next week to have a shot and the defense has to continue to swarm. Columbus the favorite.Saw Columbus beat Jesuit pretty handily this year but the Tigers got better as the year went. Columbus will have a big size advantage on the lines. Pulling for Plant but Columbus likely wins by at least 10 at home. If the game was at Plant I'd think they'd find some Dad's Stadium magic, but it will tough on the road.
3M- Gaither @ St. Thomas Aquinas- HUGE win for Cowboys in OT over Jesuit. They go 5-5 in the regular season and then step up playing out of their minds. Of course when you play 14 time state champion Aquinas, you will likely be outclassed. But much respect to the Cowboys for pulling a stunner over Jesuit. Probably Aquinas by 21.
2M- Berkeley @ Am. Heritage Plantation- Again, going on road to play National Power. Berekely has the horses to hang with AHP, but AHP is the favorite. Winner likely gets Norland, who only beat 10-time state champ Central twice this year. Go Bucs! Very close game but Tampa team going on road to play national power probably means a close AHP win.
1M- Jax TCA v. CCC- Two perenniel winners. TCA has hardware and CCC wants a title. Game at CCC helps. I think they can win a pretty close game. Winner gets the unenviable task of likely taking on CM. -
4 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:
In fairness to Vanguard, they are alive and well and looking like they may win a state title for Marion Publics for the first time in forever.
I was just about to say that Vanguard put up a huge win against a defending state champ...
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These are the Massey Ratings Top 25 for Florida:
Edgwater and LM have lost but they still appear in the rankings (probably deserve this honor).
https://masseyratings.com/hsf/fl/ratings
IMG Acad 10-0 1.0001 8.731 78.072 64.561 39.201.72 1 52.111 52.110.00 0.00 Chaminade 11-0 1.0002 8.593 73.111 65.965 32.851.77 2 51.613 51.310.96 0.04 Thomas Aquinas 11-1 0.9173 8.362 74.083 63.202 36.571.81 7 46.997 46.670.99 0.01 Cocoa 12-1 0.9234 8.026 65.008 57.494 33.201.67 12 44.6012 44.560.92 0.08 Norland 12-0 1.0005 7.959 61.217 58.6919 28.211.72 29 40.8214 43.850.26 0.74 Miami Central 8-3 0.7276 7.894 68.914 61.273 33.341.70 3 50.932 51.750.74 0.26 Am Heritage-Plant 9-1 0.9007 7.885 65.036 58.956 31.771.78 15 43.4216 43.660.91 0.09 Buchholz 12-0 1.000+1 8 7.8110 59.6611 56.7518 28.611.71 53 36.8441 38.590.65 0.35 Seminole-San 10-2 0.833+2 9 7.598 61.2114 55.157 31.751.76 21 42.0920 42.640.82 0.18 Venice 10-2 0.83310 7.587 61.785 61.2037 26.271.85 19 42.3021 42.560.86 0.14 Jones 10-3 0.769+3 11 7.5511 59.2110 57.0224 27.891.78 9 45.918 46.430.67 0.33 Edgewater 11-1 0.917-4 12 7.5212 58.0331 52.109 31.621.84 50 37.0155 37.010.00 0.00 St Augustine 11-0 1.000+4 13 7.5224 53.509 57.2675 21.931.75 74 34.5063 36.220.56 0.44 Treasure Coast 9-2 0.818+2 14 7.5015 55.4643 50.4610 30.691.77 10 45.5910 45.790.70 0.30 Clearwater Cent Cath 11-0 1.000-2 15 7.4931 51.7336 51.3241 26.111.74 59 36.1251 37.230.63 0.37 C Columbus 10-2 0.833-1 16 7.4613 57.5033 51.558 31.651.71 33 39.3731 40.430.68 0.32 Mainland 11-1 0.917+1 17 7.4520 54.0541 50.9916 28.751.81 49 37.0147 37.500.79 0.21 Homestead 10-1 0.909+1 18 7.3721 54.0326 52.7130 27.021.71 57 36.4058 36.900.81 0.19 Bartram Trail 8-4 0.667+6 19 7.3117 54.9812 56.0153 24.671.79 5 48.855 49.780.35 0.65 Lakeland 10-3 0.769+1 20 7.3014 56.5324 53.5317 28.701.74 34 39.2535 39.850.74 0.26 Team Record Δ Rat Pwr Off Def HFA SoS SSF EW EL Lake Mary 10-2 0.833-9 21 7.3016 55.0913 55.6446 25.151.71 26 41.5426 41.540.00 0.00 Western 9-3 0.750+4 22 7.2722 53.8044 50.4513 29.051.76 20 42.2015 43.720.32 0.68 Card Newman 10-1 0.909+1 23 7.2726 52.6158 47.6811 30.631.65 106 31.8661 36.510.04 0.96 Jesuit 10-3 0.769-1 24 7.2625 52.8123 53.6751 24.841.81 14 43.5417 43.300.81 0.19 Tampa Bay Tech 10-2 0.833+4 25 7.2523 53.7416 54.6552 24.781.82 44 37.6236 39.720.33 0.67 - KeemD321, DarterBlue2 and Cat_Scratch
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9 hours ago, Vero Indian said:
STA is a team you don't want to play at their place, every year they're peaking at this time with home field advantage.....with that said, I got STA with a running clock and facing either Jones or Jesuit next week
You know STA is pulling for Jesuit. They'd love to get Jesuit at home after the upset at Jesuit a few years back. Payback will be a b**** if that happens. Jesuit and Jones is likely to be one of the best games in this round. Edgewater looked pretty dominant all year and Jones pulled the upset. Jesuit has gotten better as the year went on.
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11 hours ago, DarterBlue2 said:
I actually think Coconut Creek will keep the game against Aquinas close before losing. They are a solid team and I don't think this is the best team St. Thomas has put out there.
I was being facetious. I think STA wins but not by 70. Probably by 24 or so.
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14 hours ago, Longtime Observer said:
They are arguably the best team in the state regardless of classification...playing in one of the weaker (of many) divisions.
They are clearly the best team in the state beating the schedule they have. Only IMG and STA would have a chance to beat them and I would favor CM this year over either of those teams. There is a comparative between IMG and CM, and that's St. Francis, which CM defeated with relative ease and IMG had a close game with. But to be fair SFA is playing better now at the end of the year then when CM caught them.
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coconut creek about to lose by 70
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Plant over Dr. Phillips 28-21 OT. Good game. Wayyyyy to many penalties. Refs wanted to be the stars..
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11 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Plant lost 2 games to the best teams on their schedule and beat the rest of the teams who are not very good at all. Records don’t necessarily tell you how good a team is.
Same with Dr Phillips. Lost 4 games to the only 4 teams with a pulse. The teams they beat would get beat by some elite teams JV squads.
Sumner’s best win was against a 7 win team who played nobody and they lost to Durant who played nobody!!!
These teams are not good on a state level. That’s being delusional. Following local teams and them winning against a bunch of local teams who aren’t very good doesn’t make it better. Liking a team doesn’t make it better.
i seen a ranking for Hillsborough County that had CDS, Armwood, Jesuit, Tampa Bay Tech and Berkeley as the top 5 teams in the county.
Plant went 0-2 against them and Sumner and Durant didn’t even play any of them. So you can’t sit here and say these teams have even proved anything.
Bottom line is there will be a team that is unproven and nowhere near the quality of a state ranked team you would expect in a large class metro state semi final
new year. teams get better and gel. only time will tell.
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3 hours ago, Joshua Wilson said:
And that wouldn't have solved any issues. As @Perspective said, it is just a really big region.
larger classes would solve
St Thomas Aquinas playoff history during the MaxPreps era (2004-present)
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Nobody likes sta. fhsaa bends over backwards to kiss their ass. STA is an abomination and has been terrible for football in this state. Separate the private schools already. different playing field. People that argue against this are dishonest or uninformed…