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Unfortunately, those years where school size mattered are in the past. Look at Chaminade-Madonna, who are they losing to in any classification? Even a school like Berkley Prep or Cardinal Newman or Miami Norland, all relatively small schools that can compete with the big schools. I would say if a big school (7A or 8A under old classifications) is class 2A or 1A that probably means there is lots of unrealized potential at the school. Maybe it will take the right coach, administration, and a little bit of luck, but until that happens let the big schools that can barely line-up correctly play against small schools who also can barely line-up correctly. If the big schools prove to be too good, well that is the point of the promotion system, they will progress out of it. If they are only so-so, then they won't. That is the beauty of the system, it fixes itself. We don't need FHSAA administrators fixing it (other than re-doing districts after re-classification every year) as the good teams will move up. And since it isn't based on one good year, but a series of good years than we know that team has had to made progress on and off the field. To give another example: Victory Christian (Lakeland) is in 3A, but barely. It is mostly due to a good season that they had in 2019 (I skipped 2020 season). If they had another season like they have had for the past 3, the 2019 season fades off the ratings and the "new" season comes on, well they would probably be the lowest scoring 3A school and be dropped to 2A. If you only allow teams to move up 1 classification, we still end up with Chaminade-Madonna dominating, just not 2A, but 3A and you removed any team that probably could have stopped them up to 4A. When I do a quick look at the 125 teams, what teams jump out as the surefire championships? If there isn't one, then we already have improved the system. I see some historically good teams like Glades Central, Dwyer, American Heritage (Delray Beach), maybe Immokalee, but when was the last time those teams were consistent winners? And probably this past year, you have Booker and West Boca Raton competing for the championship. But if I am coach of those 125 teams, I feel like we have a real chance vs when I look at my normal classification, we can already pencil in 6 of the final 8.

Again in my hypothetical: 6 classes (plus Rural) I already posted in the original post, what would be 6A and 5A Your specific question is about Southeast (Bradenton). They would be in Class 2A (16 districts of 8 teams, well a couple of districts with less as there only 125 teams). So yes, there would be schools with 2K plus and schools with less than 500, but again it is based on playing ability, not school size. School size has continually shown to not matter as much. Below is an alphabetical list of the teams, but first here are the teams closest to Southeast Alonso High School Boca Ciega (Gulfport) Booker High School Chamberlain High School Countryside (Clearwater) Gibbs (St. Pete) Hardee (Wauchula) Jefferson High School Lakewood Ranch Lemon Bay (Englewood) Lennard (Ruskin) Northside Christian Osceola (Seminole) Palm Harbor University St. Petersburg Sickles High School Robinson High School Seffner Christian Academy Alonso (Tampa) American (Hialeah) American Heritage (Delray Beach) Andrew Jackson (Jacksonville) Archbishop Carroll (Miami) Atlantic (Port Orange) Atlantic Coast (Jacksonville) Avant Garde Academy (Hollywood) Bayside (Palm Bay) Boca Ciega (Gulfport) Booker (Sarasota) Booker T. Washington (Pensacola) Boynton Beach Central (Fort Pierce) Chamberlain (Tampa) Clay (Green Cove Springs) Coral Gables Countryside (Clearwater) Cypress Bay (Weston) Cypress Creek (Wesley Chapel) Deltona Dr. Krop (Miami) Dwyer (Palm Beach Gardens) East River (Orlando) Eastside (Gainesville) Englewood (Jacksonville) Episcopal School of Jacksonville (Jacksonville) Eustis Evangelical Christian (Fort Myers) Flanagan (Pembroke Pines) Forest (Ocala) Forest Hill (West Palm Beach) Fort Meade Fort Walton Beach Foundation Academy (Winter Garden) Frostproof Gainesville George Jenkins (Lakeland) Gibbs (St. Petersburg) Glades Central (Belle Glade) Golden Gate (Naples) Goleman (Miami) Haines City Hardee (Wauchula) Harmony Hernando (Brooksville) Hialeah Hudson Immokalee Jackson (Miami) Jefferson (Tampa) Jupiter Kathleen (Lakeland) Key West Lakewood Ranch (Bradenton) Land O' Lakes LaSalle (Miami) Lecanto Leesburg Lemon Bay (Englewood) Lennard (Ruskin) Leon (Tallahassee) Lyman (Longwood) Maclay (Tallahassee) Marianna Matanzas (Palm Coast) Menendez (St. Augustine) Miami Middleburg Moore Haven Munroe (Quincy) Nature Coast Tech (Brooksville) New Smyrna Beach North Florida Christian (Tallahassee) North Miami Northside Christian (St. Petersburg) Orange Park Osceola (Seminole) P.K. Yonge (Gainesville) Palatka Palm Beach Lakes (West Palm Beach) Palm Harbor University (Palm Harbor) Palmetto Ridge (Naples) Park Vista (Lake Worth) Pine Crest (Fort Lauderdale) Piper (Sunrise) Port St. Lucie Ribault (Jacksonville) Ridge Community (Davenport) River Ridge (New Port Richey) Riverdale (Fort Myers) Riverview Robinson (Tampa) Saint Andrew's (Boca Raton) Santaluces (Lantana) Seabreeze (Daytona Beach) Seffner Christian (Seffner) Seminole Ridge (Loxahatchee) Sickles (Tampa) Somerset Academy Silver Palms (Miami) South Fork (Stuart) South Fort Myers (Fort Myers) South Miami (Miami) South Walton (Santa Rosa Beach) Southeast (Bradenton) St. Brendan (Miami) St. Cloud St. John Paul II (Tallahassee) St. Petersburg Tate (Cantonment) Taylor County (Perry) The First Academy (Orlando) The Villages Charter (The Villages) Tocoi Creek (St. Augustine) Tohopekaliga (Kissimmee) True North Classical Academy (Miami) Wellington West Boca Raton (Boca Raton) West Broward (Pembroke Pines) West Nassau (Callahan) West Port (Ocala) Westside (Jacksonville) Westwood (Fort Pierce) Yulee Zephyrhills Christian Academy (Zephyrhills)

That's essentially what I want to happen, but the problem with your place as a starting point is the a school like Chaminade-Madonna still is wrecking havoc in 3A instead of 2A and would take 3-4 more years to eventually get to the level that they should be at (assuming that you would allow a team to go to from 2A to 3A to 4A to etc). If not, all you really did is move the teams that most likely could beat a juggernaut 2A or 3A team out of the classification. The other reason this system is imbalanced in terms of classification size is that the talent gap between 1-75 is too big vs the gap between say 320-448 (128 teams) is smaller because all of those teams struggle. Just to use my above classifications of a 1 vs 64 you are talking STA vs Dunbar (Ft Myers) vs if you shrink the gap it is STA vs Naples. Your idea works if we didn't have years and years of data at our finger tips already, but we do and as such should use that data to make a better system.

Do you think something similar would be true in other team sports (basketball, volleyball, soccer, and base/softball)?

25% across the board. Mostly due to the fact I didn't want a recency bias. A team has that one special year where they go 8-2 and make the 3rd round, but normally a 6-4 team that is barely competing for a wildcard spot to be the reason why they move up. But if this type of promotion/relegation system was used, that kind of thing is a small detail that I would be more than willing to compromise on.

I should note that technically, this is based off the 2023, 2022, 2021, and 2019 school years. I skipped the 2020 school year due to the bedlam that COVID created, so that might have led to some discrepancies.

7 Classifications 6A - 32 teams 5A - 32 teams 4A - 64 teams 3A - 64 teams 21 - 125 teams (as new teams are added they will be added to 1A and teams move up until 1A and 2A are at 128) 1A - 126 teams (as new teams are added they will be added to 1A and teams move up until 1A and 2A are at 128) Rural - 32 teams Rankings based on previous 4 years of MaxPreps Points (not FHSAA's modified) End of season, bottom 4 teams move down from 6A and 5A, 8 teams from 4A and 3A, 16 teams from 2A move down 1 class End of season, top 4 teams move up from 5A , 8 teams from 4A and 3A, and 16 teams from 2A and 1A move up 1 class 6A and 5A (no districts, but teams are required to play minimum of 7 games against teams in classification), all teams make playoffs 4A and 3A (8 districts of 8 teams), top 4 teams in classification based on district standings into playoffs (similar to GA) 2A and 1A (16 districts of 7 or 8 teams), top 2 teams in classification based on district standings into playoffs This acknowledges that there are good and bad teams and that they generally should not play each other. It acknowledges that certain teams have advantages and allows those teams to play against each other. It creates a really great state championship playoff in 6A where every team is competitive and those teams can beat on each other rather than the lesser teams. If you are one of the top teams, why are you are arguing against it? Because you want to play against lousy teams? Won't find games? (Maybe for Panhandle teams, and maybe we need the FHSAA/NFL teams to supplement) Additionally, it allows the lesser teams to play against teams with a similar history which means we should have fewer blowouts and more competitive regular season games which encourages people to participate and attend. 6A American Heritage (Plantation) Apopka Armwood (Seffner) Bartram Trail (St. Johns) Berkeley Prep (Tampa) Bolles (Jacksonville) Booker T. Washington (Miami) Buchholz (Gainesville) Cardinal Gibbons (Fort Lauderdale) Central (Miami) Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood) Clearwater Central Catholic (Clearwater) Cocoa Columbus (Miami) Edgewater (Orlando) Florida State University High School (Tallahassee) Jesuit (Tampa) Jones (Orlando) Lake Mary Lakeland Mainland (Daytona Beach) Naples Niceville Northwestern (Miami) Osceola (Kissimmee) Palmetto (Miami) Seminole (Sanford) St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale) Tampa Bay Tech (Tampa) Treasure Coast (Port St. Lucie) Venice Western (Davie 5A Atlantic (Delray Beach) Bishop Verot (Fort Myers) Cardinal Newman (West Palm Beach) Creekside (St. Johns) DeLand Dillard (Fort Lauderdale) Dunbar (Fort Myers) Escambia (Pensacola) Gulliver Prep (Miami) Homestead Lake Gibson (Lakeland) Lake Minneola (Minneola) Lake Wales Lakewood (St. Petersburg) Lincoln (Tallahassee) Mandarin (Jacksonville) Miramar Norland (Miami) Palm Beach Central (Wellington) Palmetto Pensacola Catholic (Pensacola) Pine Forest (Pensacola) Raines (Jacksonville) Riverview Sarasota (Sarasota) Rockledge South Sumter (Bushnell) Trinity Christian Academy (Jacksonville) Vanguard (Ocala) Vero Beach Wakulla (Crawfordville) West Orange (Winter Garden) Winter Park

No, FHSAA already doubles their population so that school would for the purpose of classifications be at 900 students, not 450.

Since we are in the hiring and firing season. As a community member (low level booster, a Friday night fan, maybe a parent of a former player) what are you looking for in your coach in terms of resume, experience, personality, criteria? Do you have different things that you are looking for as a current players' parent? Teacher? Administrator? High Level Booster? ______________________ Additionally, coaches what are you looking for from a school?

Ron Perisee filling Freedom (Tampa) job from Leto Creates Opening at Leto (Tampa) H.S. Per Andy Villamarzo

Everglades Prep (Homestead) per FHSAA Classifieds

Just curious, as I usually don't follow the BoD's membership or meetings, but was this the first "real" meeting (where a major decision was being made) since the Department of Education/state legislature/governor took over the FHSAA? Could it be the FHSAA is just waiting on getting their marching orders from their actual bosses?

You beat me to it.

It is not like North Florida did anything with new system anyway. Only two and half teams (not counting 1R teams) North of Gainesville made the championships the last two years. Mandarin, FSU High, and Bradford (they are barely North of Gainesville). Honestly, I still prefer a real promotion/relegation system, but I agree with the original post. It seems way too soon to know if the system is working and going back to the old system seems like a retread. I guess I would ask what would have been different if we had 1A-7A (with Rural separate). Is Chaminade not winning? Is STA losing? Cocoa? It seems like most of the teams that won would have won in any classification. Who was denied winning a championship who would otherwise would have won if we didn't have it as a Metro/Suburban?

Openings: Sandalwood (Jacksonville) per FHSAA Classifieds

Openings: Lake Worth - Per FHSAA Classifieds Southeast (Bradenton) - Per FHSAA Classifieds

Citrus (Inverness) - John Capel

Wesley Chapel - Bruce Patterson

Chamberlain- James Wilder Jr https://highschool.si.com/florida/2023/12/08/breaking-former-florida-state-tailback-james-wilder-jr-named-chamberlain-florida-head-football-coach

Openings: Belen Jesuit (Miami) - per FHSAA Classifieds East River (Orlando) per FHSAA Classifieds Lake Placid - per FHSAA Classifieds Lemon Bay (Englewood) per FHSAA Classifieds

Auburndale per FHSAA Classifieds Taylor County per FHSAA Classifieds Florida Christian (Miami) per FHSAA Classifieds Miami Carol City per FHSAA Classifieds

Opening Eustis per Andy Villamarzo

Opening Miami Northwestern - Per FHSAA Classifieds

Chiefland Head Coach - Adam Gore