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I might be in the minority on this one, but I don't view a successful high school coach as a coach that won state championships. That might be the metric used to compare college or NFL coaches. These days a team that consistently wins state championships is typically due to the fact they recruit the best talent in their area and in modern times it's quietly becoming the state and in some teams cases the nation. I've always been of the impression since I was at St. Petersburg Catholic back in the very early 2000's that high school coaches are far more important to the development of young men. I imagine the players that played for Mr. Budnyk would consider him a champion even if he doesn't have a ring that says "State" on it. I remember reading about Coach Budnyk in the Palm Beach Post in the mid 2000's before his retirement. Sounds like an amazing individual from a different generation that was able to adapt to the changing times.

They are a well coached, physical team. I believe they return a lot from last year, but they lost their RB Dallis Small who was a sparkster. AHD vs Vero Beach will be fun. Like most private schools that field very good football teams the team you see and read about in Spring won't be the team that shows up in Fall. You may not get a good grasp of them until then. They're now in a region with Glades Central and Tampa Catholic in 4A-Region 3, so they're definitely a contender in their region.

Thanks for your opinion!

I agree with pretty much everything said in this thread, but I've always viewed spring games as for the players, coaches and fans as a gauge of what they need to work on in summer. While nobody will publically admit it, I know for a fact that sources historically use spring game results to determine initial fall rankings. I think that's terrible. Some of the best teams in the state perform poorly in spring games or get run off the field from what I've seen because they're emphasizing a part of their game they may not normally emphasize. Sure there's some good match-ups on paper, but this is spring not the 3rd round of the playoffs or some huge week 7 match-up that everybody is excited for. I think it's a benefit for the teams, but not something to be viewed as the de facto reason a team will be good or a team has fallen from grace.

I agree with Cocoa vs Hoover. I never want to sell Cocoa short, but Hoover... wooah boy

I actually communicated with a few individuals this morning in the media who wanted my opinion. I think outside of the game Mainland drew that this is going to be rough for Florida, but the teams going are going more for the experience. I focus on small school football. Last year Chaminade drew Muscle Shoals a very good but not great Alabama team. This year, the team that replaced Chaminade is CCC, a very good football team in their own right. Instead of drawing another very good team of the quality of Muscle Shoals, they draw a 4 time defending state champion that would smoke Chaminade and probably be favored to beat JaxTCA that early in the season. Cocoa is a very good nationally recognized program that has athletes to spare, but they draw Hoover, Alabama. Cocoa has a history of fielding varsity rosters of 38-45 and sometimes not even that many. They'll draw a team that will field a varsity roster of 80+. I mentioned in another post, but I think they just went off of the 2018 Maxpreps state and national rankings. I wish good luck to all the teams in Florida all of them deserve to be invited and represent Florida even if we'll be taking a few on the chin.

I've always felt and said this. JaxTCA is capable of beating any team in the state as long as it's one game. I happen to think the 2019 version could be one of the top 3 JaxTCA teams of all time. In the later rounds of 5A, after having already played an elite regular season schedule, it gets difficult. In 5A, JaxTCA is playing teams that may not be as purely talented as they are but have position depth. In 3A they're going against teams with maybe 7 or 8 linemen total on a roster of 33-37 that has a couple of D-1 prospects. By the later rounds in 5A, JaxTCA is then playing teams as deep and as talented as they are in consecutive weeks. In 3A, there's only, at most, 2 teams that can stay on the field with them for a half and they wouldn't play either of those teams until the state finals. I don't have a problem with JaxTCA, I have a problem with them in 3A which means I have a quarrel with the administrators who refuse to let them move up knowing they're completely willing and want to move up.

If I were Chaminade-Madonna I would be upset about it. While I agree they're likely to be in the 3A final, they'll just as likely have to travel to CCC for a third year in the final 4, turn around and travel to Tallahassee the following week to get thumped by JaxTCA.

Proseteye, I saw on the schedule that OTC is playing Calvary Christian. This is a good game as Calvary Christian has a prolific QB and some talented WR's to throw to. OTC has been in a 2 steps forward, 1 step back rebuilding process. Let's see if the new coach and a senior laden team gets the Celtics over the hump. While JaxTCA is in your region I think the more immediate focus should be on winning a playoff game. This will go a long, long way to re-establishing the Celtic brand in Marion county. You won't have to worry about Chaminade or CCC, they are in regions 3 and 4 respectively. First Academy is in region 2 this year. OTC is a team worth following, there's some good things happening.

3 parts. 1 part Chaminade wanting to challenge themselves. 1 part Chaminade needing to prep for JaxTCA. 1 part nobody else wanting to play them. Chaminade has a challenging season and then it lets up pretty significantly before the final 4. They play Everglades in week 11, but then they'll have a first round bye and 2 easier first round games against teams they should beat handily. They'll get back to the final 4 and have a classic against CCC. Getting by them gets them JaxTCA. If Chaminade 3 peats, they're going to have to go through nothing short of the states best at multiple levels from nationally ranked small schools, to elite large schools.

The teams have been finalized for the freedom bowl. Here are the national rankings based off 2018 send of season results: Alpharetta (GA): Georgia Rank: 171 National Rank:3104 Pickerington Central (OH): Ohio Rank: 7 National Rank: 54 CCC (FL): Florida Rank: 30 National Rank: 255 Bishop Sycamore (OH): Ohio Rank:116 National Rank: 1300 Cocoa (FL): Florida Rank: 36 National Rank: 307 Mainland (FL): Florida Rank: 69 National Rank:820 Hoover (AL): Alabama Rank:4 National Rank:121 Milton (GA): Georgia Rank: 2 National Rank: 37 UMS-Wright (AL):Alabama Rank: 13 National Rank: 652 Winter Park (FL): Florida Rank 32 National Rank: 288 Western (FL): Florida Rank: 78 National Rank: 916 Brentwood (TN): Tennesse Rank: 2 National Rank: 173 As others have said in this thread, there are some heavy hitters between these 12 teams. I'm not sure what metric they'll use to separate the teams. I also know that 2018 is over, but I have to imagine this will be part of whatever metric is used.

This is true to a degree, but they had to play these teams. Nobody else would play them. Did anybody really think Flanagan, Cooper City, and the other merry minimums on their schedule last year were going to hang around to get beat by 70 again? They're a 2 time defending state champion that is bringing back a team that would compete for a state championship without a single transfer, instead they have 21 transfers and word is they have some legit super stars transferring in shortly once the summer scholarship goes into effect. (It's the scholarship for learning disabilities). As for Chaminade and Vero. I stand by my statement, If Chaminade is healthy they'll win this one. I'm not saying it'll be a blowout, but they'll end up with more points. They play Central/Carol City/AHP and like years past, they play those super powers early and will lose to one or two of them. By week 7 they'll turn into Super Chaminade and wipe the floor with everybody else except JaxTCA who will have turned into Super JaxTCA by then. I've seen this story to many times.

This is a actually a good and reasonable point Spy. I would say the Chaminade offense at times can struggle against well coached athletic defenses, but their defense typically saves the day. I do believe the Chaminade offense in 2019 could be a work in progress the first few weeks, but the defense will likely be even better than the 2018 defense. The biggest difference between the 2018 and 2019 Chaminade teams will be in the trenches. I think they are finally 3 deep along both lines in 2019 and should field a varsity roster of 58 a big improvement over last year's 44.

You might be pointing the finger at me to show back up on this thread on 10/20, but there's 3 fingers pointing back at you. Vero is a good team, be proud of their accomplishments, enjoy their success and I appreciate your passion but unless Chaminade is banged up I'll go ahead and pen this one in for a Chaminade win.

Boldly stated, but I remain unconvinced.

Vero Beach is a good program , but they won't be able to compete with what Chaminade is bringing in 2019. This will be the Lions best and most complete team in the Jones era. I respect the Indians for scheduling the game though it will help them in the long run, but this will end up similar to Chaminade vs Uschool from last year.

Columbia, Old School was being extremely sarcastic :-) JaxTCA vs Chaminade-Madonna will be an amazing game. JaxTCA has a veteran roster, Chaminade-Madonna has a roster filled with upper level transfers.

I get the syntax of your argument, but it doesn't hold water when you consider it's not as easy as snapping your fingers and saying "Poof..we can now house an additional 200 students", these schools are small for a reason. As for male sports and female sports, I like your idea and also agree with Old School Lion. The FHSAA needs a better way than simple enrollment numbers to break up the classification process.

I strongly disagree with this statement, but respect your opinion. You're separating things as public and private, which is only one denominator. 1-4A is required to go find their own 10 game schedule. For the successful programs, that gets harder and harder every year. If a 1A-4A school says, "Hey we want to play in 5A to ease the scheduling burden. We understand that all of those schools have more players to choose from since they have higher enrollment numbers"

3A is a top loaded classification that has 3 teams which will feature predominately in assorted small-school national rankings and 2 schools which are contenders to be in the top 50 for all teams in America. In order; JaxTCA, Chaminade and CCC. The 2019 JaxTCA team is about 2-3 TD's better than the 2019 Chaminade team. The 2019 Chaminade team is about 2 TD's better than the 2019 CCC team. CCC is 3-4 TD's better than the next 3A team. For 3A to become a truly competitive classification where it's "wide open", all 3 of those teams need to be moved to 5A. P.S- That's GREAT video!

Very good point, very tough! They are actually looking for 2 games though. They have 8 scheduled with 3 openings. That means that one of the 3 will be a bye week.

I understand the FHSAA's point of view by not letting teams move classifications, but I think they should make an exception for the smaller schools to move to 5A if they choose to play in a district. Chaminade-Madonna is a very good team and a worthy champion, but even with their 18 transfers right now, they'll get run off the field, quickly, against this JaxTCA team.

Makkah Jordan, a rising Jr.

Chaminade-Madonna has received quite a few transfers this off-season thus far. I have: OL Jeremiah Mawaii from Boynton Beach OL Jai'mari Herbert from Stoneman Douglas DL Allen Haye from Coconut Creek DB Quadric Bullard from South Broward DB Tykwon Ownes from South Broward LB Brandon Trueba from Pompano Beach Byron Hall from Dr. Krop WR De'mon Henry QB and WR from Hialeah

That's Kibid! Pretty much everything about CCC's history gets forwarded to him.