Sharkbait

I don't know....as CAR ONE pointed out earlier watch the Charlotte '02 season, Lakeland 04,05,06, Manatee 2009.  
 
Look at other North Regional Champions in your Class and others.  Did they have better Coaching or talent than Columbia - or was it just 9 opportunities of bad luck?
 
Are you able to reload like other Regional or State Champions?  If the answer is no than that may be part of your answer.  Sorry.

Apopka?  Really, you want to compare a pre-season game that does not count versus a 7A Regional Final game.   I am talking regular season or playoffs.  Sorry for the confusion.

I understand that there are not as many schools in that area as in the south, but how many 1A and 2A schools are there in South Florida?  It goes both ways...
 Most of those wins that you list are 1A and 2A.  Now multiply all of those years by 6-8 because there were 6-8 Divisions for all of those years.  There is quality football played in North Forida but it is very sparse.  Let's be honest, the top small class teams in that region are basically as good or better than the top large class teams. Give me Trenton and Madison County the last two years and you can have Columbia and whoever...
 
My discussion with columbiahighfan is simply stating that if you look at how many attempts Columbia has had to win the North (regardless how good or bad it is) they have been a failure.  How would you explain going to Regional Finals  9X in 18 years and not winning once?  How would explain going to Regionals 7X in 9 years and NOT winning once?  The topic at hand is now strictly NORTH football (regardless how good or bad it is).  I'm not even talking the south or states right now.   Why can't Columbia win Regionals on so many attempts?    
 
Now that said, is it fair to argue that these failures are due to poor coaching or a poor region?  Please advise the other reason (or excuse) that it may be?    I don't want to hear Lakeland or Plant anymore.  They have not been the power they were for years now and Osceola and Niceville are gone now as well.  So please feel free to advise?
 
Jacksonville is a whole different animal.  Lots of talent over there.  

I wouldn't say it's bad part of Fl for high school football. The reason there are more good teams in the south is that there are so many more schools.  Take the Jacksonville schools out of the north and you will find very few schools. Tallahassee/Leon County for example has only has only 8 high schools. That is the biggest metropolitan area up here.  I think what hurts the larger schools is the lack of similar sized competition.  Just some info on state champions out of North Florida excluding Jax/St Augustine and everything south of Chiefland.
2000- 4A Pine Forest    1A North Fl Christian
2001- 4A Lincoln   2A Madison Co  1A NFC
2005- 1A Port St Joe
2006-  1B  FAMU
2007- 2A  Madison Co
2008- 1A NFC
2009- 3A Pensacola
2010- 4A Lincoln
2011- 2A NFC  1A Jefferson Co
2012- 5A Godby  1A Northview
2013- 1A Trenton
2014 -1A Port St Joe
2015- 1A Trenton
The championships are mostly in the smaller classes but there is quality football played in north Florida. If you throw in Jacksonville the numbers really jump. I think the north does pretty good considering the sparse population.

7 on 7 is great for building chemistry between qb and receivers.  It is a great way to get live reps in. I do think you need to get your backs and receivers into a skills camp so they can work with coaches other than their regular coaches, and get some individual instruction for their position.  I will say that whether its a 7 on 7, position camp, or team camp it will all help players immensely.  Also keeping kids busy keeps them out of trouble.

7 on 7 is great for building chemistry between qb and receivers.  It is a great way to get live reps in. I do think you need to get your backs and receivers into a skills camp so they can work with coaches other than their regular coaches, and get some individual instruction for their position.  I will say that whether its a 7 on 7, position camp, or team camp it will all help players immensely.  Also keeping kids busy keeps them out of trouble.

As long as quarterback and receivers are together wether it on private leagues or team leagues it's fine because they still gaining chemistry

Like I tell people...Winning summer football(7 on 7) is like winning a game of Monopoly. It means nothing. there are a lot of teams that kill the 7 on 7 circuit, but come fall 11 on 11 they win between 4-6 games tops. Like my son says "wonk! wonk! wonk!" 

Agree, but hard the question the way State Champions handle their summers as well - even if they do not really do 7 v 7s.  

Think about this.  Outside of BTW, you have heard very few 7 v 7 news on the other State Champions.  Trenton, University Christian, TCA, Bishop Moore, Miami Central, STA and Flanagan.  I know down south- Miami Central, STA, and Flanagan have done very little (if any) 7 on 7 this year.
Another note is 2015 Coconut Creek may have never lost a 7 on 7 game last year ( I think maybe  56-0 or something) and were declared 7 on 7 National Champions after winning a couple very competitive 7 on 7 National Tourneys.   Great team in the fall but they did not see the playoffs in 5A.

I am not sure how much of an indicator 7 on 7 is concerning future success.  No real contact and no line play, it's basically if you have faster guys that can catch and someone who can get the ball to them you're good 7 on 7.  We see teams that look good 7 on 7 against a team that would blow them out in real action.  It is useful practice but hard to know just how good teams really are.

I am not sure how much of an indicator 7 on 7 is concerning future success.  No real contact and no line play, it's basically if you have faster guys that can catch and someone who can get the ball to them you're good 7 on 7.  We see teams that look good 7 on 7 against a team that would blow them out in real action.  It is useful practice but hard to know just how good teams really are.

For those wondering, I just deleted a post for crossing the line in civility and breaking rule #1 in the rules which have been pinned on this board for over 3 years.
 
I will remind you all that you will NOT call any other team a name or accuse them of something on this board. This is not that other site's message board and I refuse to allow it to become that way.
 
Let this serve as your only warning because next time there will be no warning as posts will be removed and likely suspension of your account for 1 to 2 weeks.
 
Got any questions PM me or email me.

My personal opinion on Miramar is the coaching staff. South Florida is completely different or maybe it's the same being that I rarely keep up with Central, North and the panhandle. But yeah if you don't have the right coaching staff you won't go far. When we had Cogdell we went to states twice and pretty much owned the district except for the old glory days of Cypress Bay. Talent was consistently coming in and out. When Cogdell left we stayed optimistic but things just went worser being disqualified from the playoffs and the next year not making the playoffs. Don't you all remember how good Northwestern was, shoot you couldn't beat them to save your life and not look at them. My point is without a good coach you won't make it far.

Miramar beat North Broward Prep in a tight game also.
 
I think 8 teams advance to tomorrow AM. Some crazy scores I heard... I don't know if someone was pulling my leg but I heard Stoneman Douglas beat BTW "A" .

I'm out here now. About to watch Dillard and Krop in this 105+ heat index..

I didn't make it I was at down and dirty. Talked to one of the coaches there but he only wanted to talk about his guys. I did hear Madison had Godby 19 zip at half in the championship game.

Madison county wins Wakulla 7 on 7.
Godby
Franklin Co
Rickard
NFC
Suwanee
Taylor co
Madison
Wakulla
and 2 more teams.
Looks like the rest of 1A had their work cut out.

No chance Corey Davis. If you said chance to make the playoffs you would be right but to win it all the list is very small. It looks like this.
 
Madison Co
 
 
 
 
 
 
Trenton
Dixie Co
Ft Meade
Pahokee
St Joe
Blountstown
 
And that is stretching the list out.
Teams like Hamilton, Newberry or Lafayette won't even make the playoffs, how could you say they could win state??? That's like saying Keystone Heights could win 4A. SMH.

Every year before the states second oldest rivalry, both the Palatka and St. Augustine seniors are honored regardless who hosts the game. 

For me its the tiger den entrance at Columbia, you hear the band playing, you feel the compressed smoke, you hear the cowbells it is one Heck of a entrance and by far my favorite part of a home game

FYI - Coach Johnson was let go after he failed to pass teaching certification requirements, per the NWF Daily News. 
 
PAPER EXCERPT: â€œThere are three state tests that you have to take and I passed one and was working on another one,” said Johnson, who received a two-year temporary certification when he came to Fort Walton Beach as an assistant coach in 2014. “I’m not making any excuses. This is 100 percent my fault and I take full responsibility for not passing the tests in the proper time allotted.”
 
Coach Johnson's last day will be June 30, per the paper. 

1. TCA
2. BTW
3. Chaminade Madonna
4. Clearwater Central Catholic
5. Cocoa
6. AHD
7. Oxbridge Academy
8. Glades Central
9. Madison County
10. Tampa Catholic
11. Bolles
12. University Christian
13. Trenton
14. Raines
15. North Florida Christian
16. Admiral Farragut
17. Northside Christian
18. Pahokee
19. Dunnellon
20. Champagnat Catholic
21. Walton
22. Port St. Joe
23. Fort Meade
24. Avon Park
25. Newberry
 
Others of notice ( South Sumter, Sante Fe,  Blountstown, Dixie County,  University School, Cambridge Christian, Miami Edison, Hialeah Miami Lakes )

I gotcha
 
1. TCA
2. Booker T
3. Chaminade
4. American Heritage
5. Madison Co
6. Cocoa
7. Clearwater Central Catholic
8. Raines
9. Trenton
10. Bolles
11. Oxbridge Academy
12. University Christian
13. Glades Central
14. Port St Joe
15. Dunnellon
16. Trinity Catholic
17. Tampa Catholic
18. Dixie Co
19. Ft Meade
20. NFC
21. Santa Fe
22. Northside Christian
23. Blountstown
24. Pahokee
25. South Sumter

Not sure of any. This camp was part of the Bishop Dullegan group but is now independent.  This my son's 3rd year at the camp he loves it and the kids get to work with coaches from all over so the exposure is great. They usually have about 400 kids per camp with at least 1 coach per 10 players.  You get players from all over Florida with some out of state players as well.