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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from imjustafan2 in East Central Florida Top 19 (UPDATED)   
    I will incorporate Brevard soon.
    Cocoa #1-3
    Rockledge #3-6
    Viera #11-13
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from OldSchoolLion in East Central Florida Top 19 (UPDATED)   
    Rank, team, class-region, hypothetical spread
    Edgewater — (7A-R1)  Cocoa — (4A-R2) +3 Jones — (5A-R2) +3 Seminole — (8A R1) +6 Winter Park — (8A-R1) +8 Rockledge — (5A-R3) +16 Osceola — (8A-R2) +16 Bishop Moore — (5A-R2) +16 Dr. Phillips — (8A-R2) +17 Mainland — (6A-R1) +17 Lake Mary — (8A-R1) +17 West Orange — (8A-R1) +20 Apopka — (8A-R1) +20 Viera — (7A-R2) +21 Wekiva — (7A-R1) +21 Oviedo — (8A-R1) +24 Spruce Creek — (8A-R1) +27 Ocoee — (8A-R1) +27 Olympia — (8A-R2) +28  
    Ranking includes Orange (9 teams), Seminole (3), Brevard (3), Volusia (2), Osceola (1), Sumter (0) & Lake (0) counties.
     
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    The following games between the ranked teams (29 total) represent an average of 1.61 ranked regular season opponents per ranked team. There are also national opponents that have not been incoporated into this stat.
    Weeks 1, 5, 7 and 11 are the best weeks of the season prior to the playoffs.
     
    Week 1
    DP @ Seminole - Pick: Seminole wins 35-20
    Edgewater @ #Bishop Moore - Pick: Edgewater wins 35-17
    #Olympia @ West Orange - Pick: West Orange wins 39-24
    #Viera @ Cocoa - Pick: Cocoa wins 36-14
    Winter Park @ Wekiva - Pick: Winter Park wins 24-13
     
    Week 2
    Seminole @ Lake Mary
    West Orange @ Wekiva
     
    Week 3
    Jones @ Edgewater
    Osceola @ Cocoa
    West Orange @ DP
    Olympia @ Wekiva
     
    Week 4
    Bishop Moore @ Jones
     
    Week 5
    #3 Seminole @ Mainland
    #6 Rockledge @ Viera
    Winter Park @ Edgewater
    Apopka @ DP
     
    Week 6
    Lake Mary @ West Orange 
     
    Week 7
     Mainland @ Cocoa
    Apopka @ Jones
    DP @ #Wekiva
    Lake Mary @ Oviedo
     
    Week 8
    Winter Park @ Oviedo
    Olympia @ DP
    West Orange @ Apopka
     
    Week 10
    Lake Mary @ Apopka
     
    Week 11
    Cocoa @ Rockledge
    West Orange @ Jones
    Wekiva @ Apopka
    Oviedo @ Spruce Creek
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from Cat_Scratch in East Central Florida Top 19 (UPDATED)   
    Rank, team, class-region, hypothetical spread
    Edgewater — (7A-R1)  Cocoa — (4A-R2) +3 Jones — (5A-R2) +3 Seminole — (8A R1) +6 Winter Park — (8A-R1) +8 Rockledge — (5A-R3) +16 Osceola — (8A-R2) +16 Bishop Moore — (5A-R2) +16 Dr. Phillips — (8A-R2) +17 Mainland — (6A-R1) +17 Lake Mary — (8A-R1) +17 West Orange — (8A-R1) +20 Apopka — (8A-R1) +20 Viera — (7A-R2) +21 Wekiva — (7A-R1) +21 Oviedo — (8A-R1) +24 Spruce Creek — (8A-R1) +27 Ocoee — (8A-R1) +27 Olympia — (8A-R2) +28  
    Ranking includes Orange (9 teams), Seminole (3), Brevard (3), Volusia (2), Osceola (1), Sumter (0) & Lake (0) counties.
     
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    The following games between the ranked teams (29 total) represent an average of 1.61 ranked regular season opponents per ranked team. There are also national opponents that have not been incoporated into this stat.
    Weeks 1, 5, 7 and 11 are the best weeks of the season prior to the playoffs.
     
    Week 1
    DP @ Seminole - Pick: Seminole wins 35-20
    Edgewater @ #Bishop Moore - Pick: Edgewater wins 35-17
    #Olympia @ West Orange - Pick: West Orange wins 39-24
    #Viera @ Cocoa - Pick: Cocoa wins 36-14
    Winter Park @ Wekiva - Pick: Winter Park wins 24-13
     
    Week 2
    Seminole @ Lake Mary
    West Orange @ Wekiva
     
    Week 3
    Jones @ Edgewater
    Osceola @ Cocoa
    West Orange @ DP
    Olympia @ Wekiva
     
    Week 4
    Bishop Moore @ Jones
     
    Week 5
    #3 Seminole @ Mainland
    #6 Rockledge @ Viera
    Winter Park @ Edgewater
    Apopka @ DP
     
    Week 6
    Lake Mary @ West Orange 
     
    Week 7
     Mainland @ Cocoa
    Apopka @ Jones
    DP @ #Wekiva
    Lake Mary @ Oviedo
     
    Week 8
    Winter Park @ Oviedo
    Olympia @ DP
    West Orange @ Apopka
     
    Week 10
    Lake Mary @ Apopka
     
    Week 11
    Cocoa @ Rockledge
    West Orange @ Jones
    Wekiva @ Apopka
    Oviedo @ Spruce Creek
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    Pipe Dreams reacted to Nolestrong in East Central Florida Top 19 (UPDATED)   
    Osceola
    KOC vs. Lakeland
    #2 Columbus (Miami)
    #3 Cocoa
    #9 Manatee
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    Pipe Dreams reacted to KeemD321 in East Central Florida Top 19 (UPDATED)   
    So is Brevard not considered central Florida?
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in 2001 6A Title Game - Northwestern v Apopka   
    knew badbird was guru, liked the name guru better.
     
    badbird/guru, remember when Berry’s son for Apopka punted in the 4th qtr vs DP in 2005, up 16-13, evading the SURE sack/block/fumble on the 1 while being tackled, and DP fumbled the punt return ???
    We had y’all. Crazy 14-point play. 
    badbird and I have actually been on opposing sidelines, head coach (APK) vs player (DP). I missed the first 6 games that year with a broken fibula. I’m sure Guru is relieved of that fact (ha)
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from KeemD321 in East Central Florida Top 19 (UPDATED)   
    Out of Brevard I’d include Cocoa (~ #1-4) and Rockledge (~ #6-8). Likely Viera as well. 
    It’s tough to gauge Brevard comparatively because they tend to play other coastal teams (north and south of Brevard) and don’t have representation in 8A (where a ton of Orlando metro teams are placed).
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    SIDE NOTE.. The top 8 to 10 teams in the ranking are very close. We’ll see who rises to the top... for the most part they all play each other.
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from Perspective in 8A North - Quick Analysis & Contenders   
    8A north has always been one of the most interesting mini-brackets in the state. It used to be 6A north until 2011. Year in and year out there are 5-8 serious state title contenders out of 8A Region 1 and 8A Region 2.
    This has been my primary focus since ~2011. I focus primarily on these teams as well as other state contenders from 4A up. Here is my list of potentially lethal playoff contenders as well as potential dark horses, with my top 10 in CAPS. Asterisks given to Top 5
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    MANDARIN*
    Sandalwood
    Bartram Trail
     
    2
    SEMINOLE*
    Flagler Palm Coast
    DeLand
    Spruce Creek
     
    3
    WINTER PARK*
    Oviedo
     
    4
    LAKE MARY
    APOPKA
    WEST ORANGE
     
    5
    DR PHILLIPS*
    Boone
    Olympia
     
    6
    OSCEOLA
    Lake Nona
     
    7
    PLANT*
     
    8
    SARASOTA RIVERVIEW
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from imjustafan2 in East Central Florida Top 19 (UPDATED)   
    Rank, team, class-region, hypothetical spread
    Edgewater — (7A-R1)  Cocoa — (4A-R2) +3 Jones — (5A-R2) +3 Seminole — (8A R1) +6 Winter Park — (8A-R1) +8 Rockledge — (5A-R3) +16 Osceola — (8A-R2) +16 Bishop Moore — (5A-R2) +16 Dr. Phillips — (8A-R2) +17 Mainland — (6A-R1) +17 Lake Mary — (8A-R1) +17 West Orange — (8A-R1) +20 Apopka — (8A-R1) +20 Viera — (7A-R2) +21 Wekiva — (7A-R1) +21 Oviedo — (8A-R1) +24 Spruce Creek — (8A-R1) +27 Ocoee — (8A-R1) +27 Olympia — (8A-R2) +28  
    Ranking includes Orange (9 teams), Seminole (3), Brevard (3), Volusia (2), Osceola (1), Sumter (0) & Lake (0) counties.
     
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    The following games between the ranked teams (29 total) represent an average of 1.61 ranked regular season opponents per ranked team. There are also national opponents that have not been incoporated into this stat.
    Weeks 1, 5, 7 and 11 are the best weeks of the season prior to the playoffs.
     
    Week 1
    DP @ Seminole - Pick: Seminole wins 35-20
    Edgewater @ #Bishop Moore - Pick: Edgewater wins 35-17
    #Olympia @ West Orange - Pick: West Orange wins 39-24
    #Viera @ Cocoa - Pick: Cocoa wins 36-14
    Winter Park @ Wekiva - Pick: Winter Park wins 24-13
     
    Week 2
    Seminole @ Lake Mary
    West Orange @ Wekiva
     
    Week 3
    Jones @ Edgewater
    Osceola @ Cocoa
    West Orange @ DP
    Olympia @ Wekiva
     
    Week 4
    Bishop Moore @ Jones
     
    Week 5
    #3 Seminole @ Mainland
    #6 Rockledge @ Viera
    Winter Park @ Edgewater
    Apopka @ DP
     
    Week 6
    Lake Mary @ West Orange 
     
    Week 7
     Mainland @ Cocoa
    Apopka @ Jones
    DP @ #Wekiva
    Lake Mary @ Oviedo
     
    Week 8
    Winter Park @ Oviedo
    Olympia @ DP
    West Orange @ Apopka
     
    Week 10
    Lake Mary @ Apopka
     
    Week 11
    Cocoa @ Rockledge
    West Orange @ Jones
    Wekiva @ Apopka
    Oviedo @ Spruce Creek
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from OldSchoolLion in 8A North - Quick Analysis & Contenders   
    8A north has always been one of the most interesting mini-brackets in the state. It used to be 6A north until 2011. Year in and year out there are 5-8 serious state title contenders out of 8A Region 1 and 8A Region 2.
    This has been my primary focus since ~2011. I focus primarily on these teams as well as other state contenders from 4A up. Here is my list of potentially lethal playoff contenders as well as potential dark horses, with my top 10 in CAPS. Asterisks given to Top 5
    -

    MANDARIN*
    Sandalwood
    Bartram Trail
     
    2
    SEMINOLE*
    Flagler Palm Coast
    DeLand
    Spruce Creek
     
    3
    WINTER PARK*
    Oviedo
     
    4
    LAKE MARY
    APOPKA
    WEST ORANGE
     
    5
    DR PHILLIPS*
    Boone
    Olympia
     
    6
    OSCEOLA
    Lake Nona
     
    7
    PLANT*
     
    8
    SARASOTA RIVERVIEW
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from MC Rockets in Schedules   
    Dr Phillips Schedule
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    Kickoff Classic: @ Edgewater
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    @ Sanford Seminole
    @ Timber Creek
    @ West Orange
    Boone
    Apopka
    Windermere
    @ Wekiva
    Olympia
    East Ridge
    @ Oak Ridge
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from DisabledAccount in Schedules   
    Dr Phillips Schedule
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    Kickoff Classic: @ Edgewater
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    @ Sanford Seminole
    @ Timber Creek
    @ West Orange
    Boone
    Apopka
    Windermere
    @ Wekiva
    Olympia
    East Ridge
    @ Oak Ridge
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    Pipe Dreams reacted to MC Rockets in Miami Central 2019 schedule   
    Here is the schedule for MC in 2019. Dates, time and determination of home and away games at Traz Powell Stadium TBA. But this is the order of games.
    Pre-season Cedar Grove, Ga. @Traz
    Wk 1 St. Frances Academy, MD. @Traz 
    Wk 2 Booker T Washington @Traz 
    Wk 3 Carol City @Traz 
    Wk 4 South Ridge @Traz
    Wk 5 Edison @Traz 
    Wk 6 Belen @Traz 
    Wk 7 Northwestern @Traz 
    Wk 8 Norland @Traz 
    Wk 9 South Miami @Tropical 
    Wk 10 Chaminade @Chaminade 
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from MC Rockets in Miami Central 2019 schedule   
    ahhh the acronyms..... ban this man!!!
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from 954gator in Lakeland appears fully reloaded for 2019   
    I’ve said it for years.
    If a kid and his parents decide to move to another school zone, or to enroll in a school in search of better coaching (and college football opportunities), then they have every right to do so.
    The free market approach makes certain school zones more desirable depending on what a family is looking for (school grade, athletic program, etc). 
    If you build it they will come.
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from Perspective in 52 Teams with the Most Playoff Wins over the Past 10 Seasons   
    Two of the top 8 (Plant & Dr. Phillips) had to play each other in the second round 4 of those 10 years. 
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from OldSchoolLion in 8A Region 2 - An Early Look   
    I’ll rank them:
    1t) Dr. Phillips
    1t) Plant
    3) Osceola
    4) Sarasota Riverview
    5) Lake Nona
    6) Boone
    7) Olympia
     
    Plant and Dr. Phillips will renew their rivalry. Those were classics from 2011 to 2014. The 2013 OT game was a nightmare as a sure DP pick was tipped and the Plant WR took it ~80 yards to force OT in the last 2 minutes.
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from DarterBlue2 in Spring Game 2   
    DP depth. Projected high impact players.
    * D1 offer
    ^ D1AA offer
    (2) multi-position player
     
    QB - Joe Patti (So) / Brenden Cyr
     
    RB - Brandon Fields *
    RB - Nivon Holland
    RB - Rodney Wells Jr (So)
     
    ATH - Jaydan Taylor (So) (2) *
     
    WR - Joanes Fortilien (So) *
    WR - Jacquez Jones
    WR - Jalen Washington (Jr)
    WR - Ledger Hatch (Jr) *
    WR/TE - Trey Schyck
     
    TE - Jackson Hodor
     
    T - Kyjuan Phillips (Jr) — 6’4, 270
    T - Derek Haupt — 6’4, 280 ^
    G - Austin Purpura (Jr) — 6’2, 280
    G - Devin Hill (So) — 6’2, 280
    C - Reggie Hayes (Jr) — 6’1, 245
     
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    CB - Tevin Griffey *
    S - Jadai Smith (Jr) *
    S - Jalen Moore (Jr)
    CB - Kameryn Metcalf (So)
     
    DE - Shemar Williams
    DE - Shi Gaskin
    DL - Malik Carson
    DL - Chris Henson
     
    MLB - Stephen Dix *
    OLB- Jean Charles (So)
    OLB/SS - Steve Julssaint
    OLB - Jaydan Taylor (So) (2) *
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from OldSchoolLion in Spring Game 2   
    DP will need the following to compete for the 8A title:
    1) Consistent QB play. Patti does not turn the ball over as much as the spring game showed. This is the clear #1 factor by a longshot. Joe is Nick/Tony Patti’s cousin.
    2) Depth on defense. The defensive line, defensive backfield and linebacker core do not have much proven talent beyond ~12 players. Many of those guys are high level, but young. 
    3) DP averages around 270 on the OLINE but the talent is young. They need a big summer and this needs to be a strength of the team. The OLINE did not open enough holes last year. IF this offensive line comes together and plays to its potential DP’s offense will be lethal. This is the biggest opportunity area for DP heading into the summer alongside QB development.
    4) A breakout season by RB Brandon Fields, a senior committed to South Carolina who did not play in the spring game due to baseball. See #3 - that will determine how good of a season Fields has. He needs open space and can be a bruiser.
    This DP team has talent in every class, primarily the class of 2022 (sophomores this upcoming season). The wide receiver core is loaded - 6 deep - running back is loaded 3 deep, and the offensive line has the size to take control if they have a good summer. The defense is top-heavy with talent but needs depth.
     
    D1 offers by class (& projected # of additional d1 offers)
    2020: 4 (3-4) — 7-8 total
    2021: 2 (3-4) — 5-6 total
    2022: 2 (5-6) — 7-8 total (TBD)
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from OldSchoolLion in Central Florida Future   
    Top Classes (College Prospects) by Year
    *Major input from Chris Hays’ analysis, other outlets such as 247 and Rivals, and what I’ve seen on the field. 
     
    2020
    1. Jones (CB, RB, DT, DT, ATH, ATH, WR)
    2. Dr. Phillips (LB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, OL)
    3. Apopka (DE, RB, CB)
    4. Winter Park (WR, CB, QB, WR)
    5. West Orange (RB, WR, ATH, RB)
    6. Seminole (TE, WR, ATH)
    7. Edgewater (S, RB, OL)
    8. Olympia (ATH, QB, WR)
     
    2021
    1. Jones
    2. Dr. Phillips
    3. Seminole
    4. Apopka
    5. Edgewater
    6. Olympia
     
    2022
    1. Dr. Phillips
    2. Jones
    3. Lake Mary
    4. Seminole
     
    Overall, Jones and Dr. Phillips have the most prospects through the 2022 class by a good margin. Of course, this list will change. Behind Jones and DP... Seminole, Apopka, Edgewater and West Orange have a lot of underclassmen talent coming up.
    Also - watch out for Olympia.
     
    This list includes Lake, Orange, Osceola, Seminole and Sumter County. I don’t follow Volusia or Brevard close enough and I know de cleater will give me a pass for not ranking S Sumter.
    Out of those two counties (Brevard, Volusia) I’d keep an eye out for Cocoa.... then DeLand, Mainland and Rockledge.
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    Pipe Dreams reacted to KeemD321 in Central Florida Future   
    Cocoa and Rockledge are leading in Brevard but there are some surprises there as well in Brevard. I would also keep a lookout for New Symrna Beach too
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from KeemD321 in Central Florida Future   
    Top Classes (College Prospects) by Year
    *Major input from Chris Hays’ analysis, other outlets such as 247 and Rivals, and what I’ve seen on the field. 
     
    2020
    1. Jones (CB, RB, DT, DT, ATH, ATH, WR)
    2. Dr. Phillips (LB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, OL)
    3. Apopka (DE, RB, CB)
    4. Winter Park (WR, CB, QB, WR)
    5. West Orange (RB, WR, ATH, RB)
    6. Seminole (TE, WR, ATH)
    7. Edgewater (S, RB, OL)
    8. Olympia (ATH, QB, WR)
     
    2021
    1. Jones
    2. Dr. Phillips
    3. Seminole
    4. Apopka
    5. Edgewater
    6. Olympia
     
    2022
    1. Dr. Phillips
    2. Jones
    3. Lake Mary
    4. Seminole
     
    Overall, Jones and Dr. Phillips have the most prospects through the 2022 class by a good margin. Of course, this list will change. Behind Jones and DP... Seminole, Apopka, Edgewater and West Orange have a lot of underclassmen talent coming up.
    Also - watch out for Olympia.
     
    This list includes Lake, Orange, Osceola, Seminole and Sumter County. I don’t follow Volusia or Brevard close enough and I know de cleater will give me a pass for not ranking S Sumter.
    Out of those two counties (Brevard, Volusia) I’d keep an eye out for Cocoa.... then DeLand, Mainland and Rockledge.
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    Pipe Dreams got a reaction from OldSchoolLion in Most Title Game Appearances By Decade   
    Cool stat I never considered...
    Apopka and Dr. Phillips have represented the large class ‘north bracket’ in the title game 6 of the last 9 years — and the stat was 6/8 before this season. APK went 2-1 and DP went 1-2.
    Mandarin (2018) represents this year obviously — Plant (2011) and Osceola (2015) were the others.
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    Pipe Dreams reacted to OldSchoolLion in Most Title Game Appearances By Decade   
    Below are teams that have appeared in 3 or more state title games in one or more of the past 5 decades(including this year's results).  In the 1970's and 1980's, no team in the larger classes appeared in more than 3 state title games in one decade.  That changed in 1990, when 3 teams did it.   
    So far this decade, 5 teams in the larger classes have already appeared in 5 or more title games...more than last decade.  That number may well grow next season, since there are presently numerous teams with 4 appearances.  
    Personally, I enjoy seeing different teams compete year-to-year, but the trend is leaning toward more and more repeat performances.  I think of the 1990's as the birth of the "superteam" in Florida.  
    1970’s (5)
    Atlantic/Delray-3
    FAMU-3
    Glades Central-3
    Merritt Island-3
    Milton-3
     
    1980’s (6)
    Glades Day-8 
    Baker-5 
    Manatee-3
    Suwanee-3
    Titusville-3
    Woodham-3
     
    1990’s (10)
    Bolles-5
    Southridge-4
    St Thomas Aquinas-4
    University Christian-4
    Frostproof-3
    Glades Central-3
    Glades Day-3 
    North Florida Christian-3 
    Southeast-3
    Union County-3
     
    2000’s (16)
    St Thomas Aquinas-7
    Bolles-6
    Pahokee-6
    North Florida Christian-5
    Fort Meade-4
    Lakeland-4
    Northwestern-4
    Armwood-3
    Chaminade-3
    Edgewater-3
    Madison County-3
    Naples-3
    Nease-3
    Plant-3
    Trinity Catholic-3
    Trinity Christian-3
     
    2010’s (18)
    Armwood-7
    Miami Central-6
    St Thomas Aquinas-6
    Miami Booker T Washington-5
    Trinity Christian-5
    American Heritage/Delray-4
    American Heritage/Plantation-4
    Bolles-4
    Champagnat-4
    Cocoa-4
    Madison County-4
    University Christian-4
    Apopka-3
    Chaminade-Madonna-3
    Dr Phillips-3
    Plant-3
    Raines-3
    Trenton-3
     
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