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Welll, that score last night was a bit surprising for Fort White given how Bradford has struggled so far this season. Hard to consider Fort White for rankings now given the fact Santa Fe has not been a high quality team as of late which is a commone opponent for Fort White (W) and Bradford (L)

Below are some of the games so far this season in which teams got sweet revenge.  
North Florida
Orange Park 29 Clay 28   Prior to this game, Clay had won the past 8 meetings, including a 58-12 thrashing last season.  
Menendez 62 St Augustine 38    Prior to this game, Menendez was 0-17 versus the Yellow Jackets in the series.  Menendez lost its last 14 games to St Augustine by a combined score of 613-71.
Ponte Vedra 21 St Augustine 14   Ponte Vedra lost to St Augustine 41-0 last season and was 0-5 in the series coming into the game.  
Mosley 41 Fort Walton Beach 14  FWB has dominated this series the past decade, winning 5 of the 6 past games prior to this weekend.
Buchholz 27 Gainesville 7.  Gainesville had won 7 of the past 9 meetings in this rivalry game, including the last two games. 
Vernon 32 Blountstown 28 Over the past 3 seasons, Blountstown had beaten Vernon by a combined score of 124-19, including a 42-8 win last season.
Central Florida
Plant City 24 Tampa Bay Tech 21 TBT had won 6 of past 8 meetings, including blowouts last 2 seasons.
Bloomingdale 33 Tampa Bay Tech 24   TBT had won the last 3 meetings, including a 49-21 win last season.
Tampa Bay Tech 20 Armwood 12   TBT had not beaten Armwood since 2001 and had lost many games by 28+ points to the Hawks during that stretch.
Newsome 51 Sarasota Riverview 45.  Riverview had won the past two games by scores of 57-3 and 41-0.
George Jenkins 14 Ridge 7   Ridge has won the last 7 games, including the last 2 by a combined score of 84-16.
Lake Wales 20 Winter Haven 14.   Winter Haven had won 10 of the past 12 meetings in this rivalry game, including the last 8. 
Lake Wales 35 Sebring 20.  Sebring had won their last 3 meetings.  Lake Wales last won this matchup in 2009.  
Lecanto 35 Hudson 31  Lecanto lost to Hudson last year at home 42-0.
Crystal River 20 Dunnellon 13    Prior to this game, Crystal River had dropped 16 straight to the Tigers, with its last win coming in 2001. Crystal River had been outscored over the past two meetings by a combined score of 100-12.
Treasure Coast 34 Cocoa 29   Cocoa beat Treasure Coast 55-7 last year.
Viera 49 Cocoa 42   First time in school history the Hawks beat Cocoa.
Deland 10 Flagler Palm Coast 3. FPC had won their last 3 meetings.
Colonial 56 Boone 41 Boone had won their last 5 meetings.
 
South Florida
Golden Gate 37 Immokalee 8   Prior to this game, Immokalee had won the past 7 games, including 6 games by 21 or more points. 
Labelle 24 Clewiston 20   Clewiston had won each of their past 10 meetings.  The combined score of the past 3 games was 105-6 in favor of Clewiston. 
Santaluces 22 Boca Raton 17.  Santaluces had lost its last 3 games to the Bobcats by a combined score of 124-8.
Cardinal Gibbons 24 American Heritage Plantation 14   AHP had won the past 11 meetings.
Bishop Verot 5 American Heritage Delray 3.  AHD won 42-0 last season.
Seminole Ridge 21 Pahokee 20.  Pahokee had won the last 3 meetings.

Dixie by 20. 

I'm not, still early tho we should be 9-1 going into playoffs. Don't see anyone on the schedule cept maybe Dixie County being even a game.

Baldwin by 30 over union would be more like it, Seeing as they beat Dixie County by 1 in a shoot out and Dixie just beat Union County 61-28. Wouldn't be surprised if Ft white Faces Baldwin Round 1.

After this week we will be at the halfway mark of the regular season. Pretty insane to think that it feels like we were talking about big week 1 and week 2 matchups. Week 5 has some doozy's on it though. Let's get to it!

UPDATED CLASS 3A RANKINGS (Going into Week 5)

#1) Chaminade-Madonna.  Lions made short work of clearly overmatched Oakland Park Northeast running out to a 42-0 lead in the 2nd quarter. Lions didn't dress the entire team.  C-M now gets ready to face their biggest test of the season so far- American Heritage Plantation.  The Patriots have caught fire recently, this will clearly be one of the biggest matchups in South Florida.

#2) Clearwater Central Catholic.  Marauders dominated class 5A Tarpon Springs 47-6. In the game, CCC's passing attack continued to impress while the running game continued to produce without superstar Jerzhan Newton.  CCC heads to St. Pete to take on an improving St. Pete Northeast team.

#3) American Heritage Delray.  If it wasn't apparent already, the Stallions are back. After completely dominating Monsignor Pace, the Stallions have announced their presence as a threat in class 3A. Stallions hit the road for a few weeks, but at this time it's hard seeing them hit any snags until a match-up with University School.  Stallions also jumped from 101 to 57 in the Maxpreps Florida rankings, one of the biggest jumps for any team in Florida this week.

#4) King's Academy. Lions rhomped Miami LaSalle last week racking up over 300 yards of offense (205 on the ground). Next up is a date with North Broward Prep.

#5) Florida High.  FSU School, coming off a loss, fell behind 10-0 to Chiles, but a strong second half helped the Seminoles eek out a win.  Seminoles play Santa Fe next.

Next up: Baldwin, Tampa Catholic, Cardinal Mooney, Orlando TFA, Benjamin.

RANDOM THOUGHTS:

Ocala Trinity Catholic looks really good. They're now 4-0 and could be heading into a late season contest with Orlando TFA undefeated. Ocala Trinity is fighting for a top 4 spot in the region right now. I would put OTC at #3 in the region right now.

Tampa Catholic demolished Melbourne Central Catholic 41-0 in Melbourne.  Tampa Catholic and Berkeley Prep both have bye weeks this week and then play each other on 9/28 at TC. Huge game for playoff positioning.

Baldwin continues to impress at 4-0. Interesting game against Union County this week.

Calvary Christian Academy knocked off Key West last week. Conchs are usually pretty good. CCA making noise in a loaded region 4.

I think Sarasota Cardinal Mooney might go into their week 10 game against CCC undefeated.

Lakeland Christian lost to Berkeley Prep last week 28-7, mostly due to the LCS QB breaking his leg the week before. LCS isn't out of the playoff hunt, but they'll need some big wins in the coming weeks.

American Heritage Delray travels to Pensacola Catholic. Delray beach to Pensacola by bus.. I would need at least 10 bathroom breaks to make that drive.

GAMES TO WATCH

American Heritage- Plantation(3-1) at Hollywood Chaminade-Madonna (3-1)

The Patriots are ranked #1 in class 5A, the Lions are ranked #1 in 3A according to the most recent sportswriter polls. AHP is also ranked #8 in Florida, while C-M is ranked #10 in Florida according to Maxpreps.  Both teams are littered with major D-1 talent. Both teams are ranked in the top 100 teams in America.  Both teams are defending state champions.

Chaminade lost to Deerfield Beach, the #1 8A team 13-10 in week 1. In the game, the Lions fell behind early and a late rally came up short.  American Heritage ran into a buzzsaw in Miami Carol City who is playing at another level right now.

Pick:  Chaminade has come up short against the states elite- either because of depth issues or injury.  In this one, there is no excuse. The Lions are as close to 100% healthy right now as they will be for the remainder of the season, playing at home and had extra time to prepare for the Patriots due to playing last Thursday and not Friday.  AH-P is going to be a tough out, but it's time for Chaminade to live up to the expectations of being an elite team and not a team stockpiled with talent that under achieves.  I think they finally get it done:

C-M 24, AHP- 21.

Orlando First Academy (2-0) vs Calvary Christian (3-1)

Orlando First Academy currently owns a 22 game regular season winning streak dating back 2016. The Royals stingy defense and Wing-T based offense has confused and bewildered opposing defenses. Calvary Christian (Clearwater) feels they're next in line to be a state power. They have coaching, players, tools and most importantly finances to be in the conversation. The program is lacking big wins though.  Last year, the Royals defeated the Warriors 26-24 in Clearwater. 

Pick:  Calvary Christian has run up the score on some pretty poor teams (Umatilla, Anclote), lost to Berkeley Prep and struggled against a good Zephrhills Christian team that was without its top 2 players.  If Calvary can go to Orlando and snap TFA's streak, that would be a huge feather in the Warriors cap- but there is a reason TFA hasn't lost a regular season game in awhile.

TFA 35, Calvary 21

OTHER GAMES I'M INTERESTED IN:
Baldwin over Union County by 10
Cardinal Mooney over Lemon Bay by 21
MCC over Somerset Academy by 42
Ft. White over Bradford by 21
Ft. Meade over Lakeland Christian by 28
Ocala Trinity Catholic over Dunnellon by 17
Benjamin over Key West by 7
Kings' Academy over North Broward Prep by 20

COMING NEXT WEEK:
I'm going to try and put together a nice  mid-season post.


 

Wasnt at the game but herd it on the radio. 7 TO's 5 INT 2 fumbles was the factor sounded like we just abandoned the run and passed I am sure Blair  threw more passes then any QB since I been there.

https://www.lakecityreporter.com/sports/prep-football-poor-second-half-costs-fort-white-against-suwannee
 
 
@FORTWHITEFAN76 if you were at this game I would be curious to know what you saw out there
 
I was surprised by this result

Yeah he got hurt at the FCA camp one of his linemen thru his guy in to him from behind and rolled his knee reason I know this is this is my Son he has surgery on the  27 of this month but will have a full recovery not so much a tear of the ACL word doctor used was damaged. This was going to be his year after starting for FW since he was freshmen.
On the practice question we will practice starting O then when done we will practice on starting D so he will be at RB or FB then when we on D he goes to DE/DT. 
ON a side note Congrats on the win over IMG.

I was scrolling through my news feed and saw this. That is definitely a tough blow for Fort White. You never want to see this happen to anyone and from what i heard he a talented player and I feel bad for him especially being a senior and now not even getting a chance to play
 
I've seen seniors before get injured early in senior year and have to stand on the sideline and spend their final year of football just as a sideline spectator
 
 
 
I hope this kid finds a college that will let him not only continue his playing career but get a good education 
 
@FORTWHITEFAN76 do you by any chance know what happened?
 
And on a side note since he a 2 way starter how does he work practice?  Do they like alternate drives on one position and switch or does he primarily practice at just one position? 

Camp starts tomorrow and here is a list of teams who are there
GHS
Columbia
Bartram trail
Bishop Verot
Fort White
Flagler palm coast
Dunwoody
Islands High school
Pretty sure the last two are Georgia teams.
 

Spurrier UF ?

Ths is the FCA camp wont be 7v7 will be 11v11 in pads I am told. Like the one they held at Stetson.

Then why post in a 3A thread? 

Guess I am old school cause if you have to apply to a school I wouldn't call it a public school and if you have to fill out app to attend then there is a chance you will be denied or there is no reason for the app IMO. It is what is tho. But with Oxbridge now out of the north it will let another team get to Orlando but wont do anything for the blow out that will happen.

It is getting quite confusing.  There are schools like Mater Academy and Doral Academy in Miami-Dade, which sound like private schools, but are actually part of the public school system.  

I wasn't quite sure myself and decided to double check the Florida DOE with NCES which is a national entity, they list it as public as well (see here).   Niche lists them as public charter school.   With the FLDOE, NCES and Niche listing them as public that's enough for me.

Now, you're also right- they apparently have an application process (see here).  My understanding is that charter schools typically do have an application process but I'm not sure if everybody is admitted or not. 

 

I didnt know Florida high was a public swore you had to apply to go there. And my other point is 6 out of 7 publics are in the north 5 in one region so not surprised no one  gives the guys out of the north a shot to compete,

Once news of Oxbridge Academy disbanding the football team for 2018 hit the news I started receiving inquires into a new order for Class 3A- quite frankly, I was actually humbled by how many people thought of me on the topic. The reality is I did a post Spring 3A review a few weeks ago and neither myself, husband or brother were in a hurry to look at things again this soon after Spring ended; however, Maxpreps recently released their preview for the 2018 season which includes starting rankings for each team.

It's cumbersome to track down as you have to look up each team individually and click preview, but the information is there. Because losing a powerhouse school like Oxbridge is a big thing I decided to meet the people who like rankings and random message board fodder halfway. Instead of giving my rankings, here is how Maxpreps sees things and I'll comment on their rankings instead.

Lastly in the name of redundancy I decided to make a single thread dedicated to 3A summertime football so the conversation doesn't spill onto other topics. So, without further ado here are the preseason Maxpreps Class 3A rankings:

#1) Chaminade-Madonna             #3 (State)     #31 (National)                Region 4
#2) Clearwater CC                         #25 (State) #268 (National)                Region 3
#3) FSU High School                     #67 (State) #667 (National)                Region 1
#4) Tampa Catholic                       #81 (State) #1803 (National)              Region 3
#5) King's Academy                      #89 (State) #1070 (National)              Region 2
#6) A. Heritage Delray                   #126(State) #1525 (National)            Region 4
#7) Berkeley Prep                           #129(State) #1590 (National)            Region 3
#8)Benjamin School                      #133(State) #1668 (National)             Region 4                     
#9)Melbourne CC                           #147(State) #1871(National)              Region 2
#10) Calvary Christian Academy  #203 (State) #2791 (National)           Region 4
#11) Ft. White                                   #218(State)  #3034 (National)          Region 1
#12) Calvary Christian                    #228 (State)  #3175 (National)          Region 3
     
What I agree with:
Maxpreps is usually wrong at this point because it's only pulling data from 2017 and rosters aren't properly updated, but I think this is pretty close to what most people would pick. I love the top 3. Chaminade is clearly the #1 team in the class, CCC is clearly the #2 team in the class and FSU is a trendy pick to be ranked top 5 in the class. I personally had Tampa Catholic at #3, but they've bit hit with the transfer bug pretty hard and a popular rumor swirling all over Tampa is the QB is looking to transfer to Tampa Jesuit.  Going down the list- I think Berkeley Prep is on the verge of the top 5 and correct at #7.  Benjamin School looks good.

What I disagree with:
Granted the season is a long ways away- I was very impressed by American Heritage's performance against a good Lake Wales team in Spring. I'm thinking they should be ranked higher than King's and probably even with TC. If the TC QB transfers out, then there's no question- AHD is #4 IMHO.  King's is a top 8 team, but #5 pretty lofty. MCC at #9 is probably a tad low- I know they graduated a lot and have some significant holes to fill but they did land the Holy Trinity RB and the younger Valentine RB is a rising superstar. Coach Sizemore won't let the program fall behind to far. Ft. White is probably a touch to low. I would probably swap CCA and Ft. White. A month ago- I felt Calvary Christian (Clearwater) was a top 8 team in 3A and they still might be, but they've since lost some key pieces to CCC.

How would Oxbridge have impacted the standings?
Had Oxbridge not disbanded football and not lost any players here is where they would be at:
#2) Oxbridge Academy #12 (State) #167 (National)

Alright- that's all I've got for now. Thanks for reading!

 

If you put all of the 1A-4A public schools in the Panhandle together in one class, it would probably be quite competitive.  I believe a lot of those schools play each other during the regular season anyway, and the smaller schools sometimes have the upper hand.      

As you are probably aware, there are only a handful of public teams in 3A and 2A.  
3A
Baldwin-R1
Florida High-R1
Fort White-R1
Newberry-R1
Taylor County-R1
Taylor(Pierson)-R2
Marathon - R4
2A
FAMU-R1
Moore Haven-R4

FSU High School (Florida High)  is listed as a Laboratory School. I wasn't sure if they are public, private or if Lab School is its own designation; however, the Florida DOE classifies them as public. So, in that respect- Maxpreps has 2 public schools in the top 12.

https://app2.fldoe.org/publicapps/Schools/schoolmap/flash/schoolmap_text.asp

So out of the top 12 teams in 3A there is one public school? We will see when season starts on the FSU team they got beat by Suwanee in spring so not to impressed and definitely not top 3 in 3A in the state. 

To give you a point-blank answer, no. Chaminade would have to completely fall apart for a 3A north team to compete with them this year. FSU School is a good story and I think they're in a position to get a shot in Orlando, but I expect  Chaminade's only challenges of note will come from AHD and CCC, two teams that they beat 79-3 last year. I do believe Chaminade is still significantly better than both teams, but I also believe assuming those games happen (meaning, no upsets) they'll be more competitive affairs in 2018 particularly CCC which has seen a boon of transfers since their win over Clearwater in Spring and the addition of Jerry Wunsch to their coaching staff.
 

I expect them to do well in their 2nd year under their new HC. Went 10-2 and made it to the state semi-finals under him in year one, before running into Raines. They looked the part at the 7v7 at CHS. They do have a tougher schedule this year though. 
 
My eyes are on Fort White though. Always well coached and play good football. With a manageable schedule and multiple transfers coming in, I expect them to make some noise in 3A.