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I always like more football, but I don't know how many kids would get hyped up for a Bowl Game. The whole idea of football season is to play well enough to make the playoffs and have a shot at the State title. I think once kids realize they're out of contention for that, some (ie seniors who have no real reason to play anymore) won't take the situation seriously. I do like the idea for teams that don't have a chance at the playoffs (maybe even allow teams that are 5-5 or 4-6 to participate) and getting local sponsors. Could be fun if done the right way.
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What happened at Williston? Thought that job got filled already?
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46 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
It begs the question "Why can't they compete?" We are not talking just a few larger schools here that are struggling. And note that many that are struggling are in metro areas where their better athletes often leave for greener pastures. There has got to be a better answer than just dropping the sport. We are at a very unique time in hs football and need to think outside the box. There should be a place for not-so-good teams and "average" players in our game.
I feel like there was an idea floated not long ago about having almost like a D-1, D-2, and D-3 group of teams (I may be incorrect so don't beat me up too badly haha). But, the idea I remember was something along the lines of having like 120 of the best, top-tier teams in one "conference" in order to make a State Champion have to go through elite talent. Then, another conference of a similar number of schools that would allow them to play for state titles too. If you want to get rid of mediocrity, something like that would be a way because more schools could claim a title. It gives more teams something to play for, which should help drive numbers because kids feel like they could have an award for their time. Am I crazy or did that idea actually exist somewhere?
That being said, I can see a scenario where kids still want to transfer to the top tier programs because every kid is D-1 now.
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I am from the Orlando area and I personally think there are is a lot of good football up here. With that said, I think that in South Florida, there is just so much depth and talent that it's hard to say Orlando has "caught up." On top of the powerhouses in 8A, Miami-Dade and Broward have a ton of great teams in 7A and even 6A that can go toe-to-toe with anybody in the state. Outside of 8A, the Orlando area doesn't have the depth that South Florida has.
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1 hour ago, Perspective said:
Hmmm, that also means a kid could play 4 quarters in a JV game on Thursday night and then turn around and play 4 quarters in the varsity game the following night, since the "new week" starts on Friday, right? Again, you wouldn't think a coach would go into the week thinking this, but what if the varsity team loses a couple of starters to injuries mid-way through the first quarter and the kid who played the JV game the night before is the proverbial 'next man up' at that position?
For anyone who ever coached Little League All-Stars, you know how hard it is to make sure that every kid gets their required defensive inning(s) and at-bats. High school football coaches would be in the same position. I can just see the finger-pointing that's going to go on when a varsity team has to forfeit a game because the JV coach told the varsity coach that James only played 2 quarters in the JV game because some parent volunteer got distracted at that JV game by a neighbor with some juicy gossip and forgot to mark down that James played in that one Jumbo package in the 3rd quarter when the team needed to pick up a crucial 4th down.
Technically a kid could play 4 then 4, but they'd have to sit out varsity time the prior week.
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Georgia has a 6-quarter rule and it starts on Friday. So, if a kid doesn’t play at all on Friday night they can play a full Freshman/JV game the following week.
I can see it being a pain, but your Friday night kids aren’t likely to play JV ball on a Thursday unless they’re like third-teamers.
Keeping track of it sounds like a nightmare though...
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Tohopekaliga HS in Osceola County
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For a county with as many schools as Broward, this was kind of shocking to me. It makes sense that such a large number of schools would be historically mediocre though. And, that number is all relative. I live in Osceola County (I know...when you think FL powerhouses, you think Osceola County). But, it’s a similar story here. Other than Kissimmee Osceola, this county has been bad at football. Harmony had a deep playoff run about a decade or so ago. Other than that, you have St. Cloud (mediocre) and Gateway (mediocre) as the other schools that have been around a while. Then juggernauts like Poinciana, Liberty, Celebration, etc.
I’d be interested to see if other big counties have the same issue as Broward. I would imagine so. You brought up and interesting topic though. I wonder which county is the most mediocre haha
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In all honesty, I think the reason so many kids do this is because they know that it’s the only chance they have to do it. How many high school kids get that big “decision” moment? Only a handful. This lets kids feel special.
With that said, I can’t believe how soft society has gotten that we allow kids to do things like that. I mean, it’s ridiculous. Thank you, State of Florida, for showing kids that you’re allowed to just up and tweet your way out of any situation that you don’t like. Should serve these kids well...
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I was talking to a friend about this last night. If Darlington takes a few of his staff members with him, this job could be a trap. With Wekiva becoming more of a big-time player, a brand new staff could lead to some kids leaving. I'm not saying that will happen because I have no idea about the specifics. I do think that will be something to keep an eye on once "transfer season" starts though.
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This one is official. Ad posted for Apopka HC job on the FHSAA website.
I've gotten to spend some time with Coach D over the last year. Great ball coach but a great mentor. Big shoes to fill for someone up at Apopka...
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I have coached both football and track for several years. In the short distance events, especially the 100 or 200m, there is so much technique involved that it doesn't really translate to a football field. However, I think it helps train kids to move full speed. They see what top-end looks and feels like, and that can help on the football field. Personally? I've always thought kids get faster with the offseason (December-August) strength program. I've always believed weights = muscles and muscles help you move faster.
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15 hours ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:
I would prefer that that's how it should be
Here's my argument against that. I was born in Sunrise and I'm a diehard Miami Dolphins fan. Let's pretend the NFL season was 4 games long. Miami was 3-0 playing the 1-2 NE Patriots a few weeks back. Miami got throttled. At the time, Miami was then 3-1 and NE 2-2. Which team was better? Which team would deserve to be in the playoffs? I'd say NE even with the worse record.
In HS football, coaches can manipulate their schedules to get 8 or 9 wins against worse competition. A good record isn't necessarily the mark of a great team. Testing yourself against stiff competition and going toe-to-toe with the "big boys" is what makes you playoff-ready. I would gladly rather see a 5-5 team that played a legit schedule in the playoffs over a 9-1 team that beat up on weak competition. Those teams tend to be one and done anyway.
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Flagler Palm Coast (7-2) at Mandarin (5-3) (Thursday)
Raines (7-1) at Lincoln (6-2) (Thursday)
No. 1 Carol City (8-0) vs. No. 2 Miami Central (8-1)
South Dade (7-1) vs. Miami Southridge (6-2)Cocoa (6-2) at Pahokee (5-4)
Barron Collier (7-1) at Naples (7-1)
Apopka (6-2) at Wekiva (7-1)
Gulf Breeze (7-1) at Navarre (7-1)
Tampa Bay Tech (7-1) at Plant City (8-1)
Clearwater Central Catholic (9-0) at Cardinal Mooney (8-0) -
11 hours ago, Jags904 said:
I’m dumbfounded at the recklessness of the school district. I’d have required total private funding for the facilities.
Also, in no way, should a HS football coach make more than the principal. His job is very important (top 5 in the school in many cases) but the principal is number 1 and it’s not really close.
From what I understand, a lot of these big stadiums are funded by taxes the residents of these communities. And the residents do this because they want them. The people in charge of these districts just shrug their shoulders and say "If that's how the people want to spend their money, let them."
I can't imagine anything like this ever happening in Florida. Thank goodness, too, because if I had to lose my job because the District blew all of our cash and realized after the fact that they couldn't afford it I would go crazy. I feel for the people who lost jobs because of this. And, of course, the kids. They'll end up suffering for it too.
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No. 4 St. Thomas Aquinas (4-1) at No. 3 Deerfield Beach (6-0)
No. 1 Miami Carol City (5-0) vs. No. 24 Miami Southridge (5-1)
No. 12 Wekiva (4-1) at Dr. Phillips (2-4)
Delray American Heritage (5-0) at No. 18 University School (5-0)
No. 25 Navarre (6-0) at Escambia (4-1)
No. 17 Kissimmee Osceola (5-0) at Jesuit (5-0)
No. 20 Armwood (4-1) at Plant City (6-0)
Gainesville (4-1) vs. Buchholz (3-2)
Fort Meade (2-3) at Avon Park (5-1)
Champagnat (3-2) at Venice (4-1) -
No. 3 Columbia (5-0) at No. 7 Trinity Christian (Jacksonville) (5-0)
No. 8 Wekiva (4-0) at West Orange (4-1)
No. 10 Vero Beach (5-0) at Centennial (5-0)
No. 25 Navarre (5-0) at Pace (4-1)
No. 13 Godby (5-0) at Wakulla (4-1)
No. 24 Miami Southridge (4-1) vs. Miami Palmetto (4-0)
Victory Christian (5-0) at Frostproof (4-1)
Venice vs Braden River
Crystal River (4-1) at Hernando (4-1)
Pine Forest (3-1) at Escambia (4-0) -
I thought this was a great trick play. I loved it when I saw it last weekend, but I think the kid back there would have to have a set because if if the other team doesn't buy it there's a pretty solid chance the PR gets killed.
Or, with the way football is becoming, it would be a penalty on the kicking team for hitting a "defenseless" player and the returning team would get an extra 15 yds tacked on to the end of the play.
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No. 5 Miami Central (3-1) at No. 2 St. Thomas Aquinas (4-0)
No. 7 American Heritage (Plantation) (3-1) at No. 17 Chaminade-Madonna (3-1)
No. 10 Vero Beach (4-0) at Pahokee (2-1)
No. 11 South Dade (4-0) vs. Miami Jackson (3-1)
Miami Southridge (3-1) at No. 24 Rockledge (4-0)
Madison County (4-0) at No. 4 Columbia (4-0)
Chiefland (4-0) at Dixie County (3-1)
Menendez (3-1) at Ponte Vedra (4-0)
Charlotte (3-1) at Fort Myers (4-0)
Pine Forest (3-0) at Navarre (4-0) -
The depth chart thing is more of a procedural move. They'd do the same thing if Big Ben was holding out. It's just paperwork.
Me personally? I'd offer him a multi-year deal. Bell is a game-changer. Any RB can get the job done be he can change games. I think you'd have to pay him and lock him up. If he doesn't want to sign a deal, you have to trade him so he doesn't walk away for nothing.
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I'm from the Orlando area and one team that has fallen off is SCHS. They've never been very strong, but for a few years they were scoring in bunches (close to 40 a game) and won the District (7A-5) two or three years ago. They won 4 games last year and are 0-3 and outscored 133-41. Looks like they are falling back down to earth after a few good years.
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No. 23 Armwood (1-1) at Chamberlain (2-1)
No. 21 Lee (3-0) at No. 4 Columbia (3-0)
No. 3 Trinity Christian (Jacksonville) (3-0) at Bolles (2-1)
No. 15 Columbus (2-1) vs. Booker T. Washington (2-1)
Winter Haven (3-0) at No. 20 Osceola (Kissimmee) (3-0)
Palm Beach Gardens (3-0) at Seminole Ridge (2-0)
Lincoln (2-1) at Lowndes (GA) (3-1)
Palmetto (2-1) at Braden River (2-1)
Gulf Breeze (3-0) at Pine Forest (2-0)
Miami Jackson (3-0) at Cardinal Gibbons (1-2) -
No. 6 Columbus at No. 1 Miami Carol City
No. 9 Lakeland at No. 19 Apopka
No. 15 Miami Northwestern at No. 13 South Dade
No. 8 American Heritage (Plantation) at Miramar
No. 22 Atlantic (Delray) at PahokeeNo. 3 Miami Central at St. John's College, DC
Armwood at No. 11 Plant
No. 5 Columbia at Buchholz
Baldwin at Dixie County
Navarre at Crestview
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I think Baker County is one of the schools that ties the Head Football job to the AD job. It's one of the best-paying jobs in the state from what I can find.