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11 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
Camden plays the worst Florida teams they can find. It’s disgusting how they operate in that regard. Most of South Georgia does. It will be interesting to see if it’s systemic or the coaches before him lacked the testicular fortitude to play good even competition
Camden beat a State Champ Miami Central if memory serves correct.
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14 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
You sound butt hurt like your team lost to a team with more talent and better overall at the game of American football
Should IMG be allowed to compete for a State Title?
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Did they have a dorm? How did they house those international kids?
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1 hour ago, SportsFan said:
The problem is metro suburban is the CLOSEST they will ever come to actually doing what your describing
The FHSAA and the committees will never actually pass open division as one the people on that advisory committee still refuse to acknowledge the gap between metro recruiters and the rest of Florida and two because certain teams will fight against any system that will make their playoff road harder
After all why would Miami Central or AHP want to face each other in a state title game when they can get a Baker County or Columbia instead
It's easier to beat teams that can't pull from over 1m+ people for their talent like the metros can
Right....who is really scared of the competition? Who really just wants a trophy given to them?
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52 minutes ago, Floridaatlantic1 said:
I am saying that the gainesville area coaches this guy spoke to hate new idea because they liked being separate and in easy division. Coca never backs down from tough competition as everyone has seen by your schedule and success in entire state.
If the South Florida schools are so big and bad why do they care? Sounds like they might be scared of competition because they don't wanna play each other? Or they just want a trophy given to them?
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4 hours ago, JaxTCA2010stateCHAMP said:
I hope y'all know Jax tca is do to win another ship soon , don't have 9 for no reason!
We have been one of the most dominant schools since the 2010s started when my team won state.
Playing the top Miami schools. Playing top Georgia school. Playing top washington st schools and so on ... Sending multiple players to top d1 schools and the NFL.
having multiple 1# dbs in the nation coming form us and more..
I just fell like y'all be leaving us out sometimes as a rop program in Florida consistently!
What does Trinity have coming back?
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1 hour ago, Dr. D said:
Yes, there are a few cases with significant travel. In some cases, proposed district foes are already playing one another in non-district games. I would say that travel anywhere between Pensacola and Tallahassee is accepted as the cost of doing business in the panhandle. And there is a tradeoff when you campaign for larger districts and the larger number of guaranteed games that comes with that. In the old days, schools could petition to play up/down due to travel issues, but don't know if that would be allowed now.
Going off Josh's projections there was a district with a 6 hour and a 5 hour trip. That was eye opening
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16 hours ago, Dr. D said:
Still lots of 3-team districts in a 16-district model, so that's probably the one the FHSAA will go with. Too bad an 8-district set-up won't be considered, but even a 12-district alignment would be an improvement. Thanks for the work, Joshua.
The 12 district model there is a lot of travel for district games. I could see some schools in the panhandle complain.
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12 hours ago, Coach O said:
Whew!!! My son would never play for some of you coaches. What message are we teaching kids that winning a participation trophy is ok? Teach your child to be the best he can be and sometimes that means playing the best. Ever heard of David and Goliath,,, hell have you heard of Bradford and Norland….
football is not for everyone; that’s why each school has multiple sports. Also what about softball, baseball, swimmming, volleyball, golf, bowling, lacrosse, you do know that most down south schools get a running clock in most if not all these sports. But you don’t hear them complaints, they simply play another sport!
this year we had GEOGRAPHICAL AREA CHAMPIONS. Not
STATE CHAMPIONS,. Any outsider that reads this- We have suburban champions. That really says it all
The State champions means what is says - The “state of Florida” Champions!! Glad we are going back to that model
Why even have enrollments classify it? If you want to be a true State Champ. There should only be 1 class. With enrollment used to classify you are only a champion of a specific set of schools not the entire state by your logic.
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16 hours ago, Dr. D said:
I think that is a bit high. There were 442 teams in 1S-4S & 1M-4M (there were 33 teams in 1R, but they don't matter since 32 go into the new Rural). Anyway, we don't know how many teams coming off Provisional status will compete this year, how many might come back from Independent, or how many might go Independent. But just taking the 442 teams divided by 7 classes = 63-64 teams/per class. 64 teams per class theoretically allows 16 districts of 4 teams (if geography allowed). So could be a little more or a little less, but my opinion is 64 per class is the best guess at this point.
Gotcha. So I know they said they planned on having them out before Christmas. How does that work with the independent teams? Are they taken out of the classes before they divide them up? Or do they put them in and end up having to take them out after?
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I think if we ask a lot of those small schools to play teams like Chaminade and require them to play them in district play. There will be a ton of independents. If you ask them to play them in the playoffs thats one thing. Maybe the school has a decent team. But to have to play them every year when you might have a bad team, I don't think they will go for that.
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16 minutes ago, Dr. D said:
This is what the proposal actually said, which is kind of nebulous, (although my impression is that teams would be evenly distributed in 1A-7A).
"For each sport, the total number of existing member senior high schools which commit to participate in the state series in each sport shall be ranked in order of student population. The student population of the smallest school in each classification shall form the dividing line between that classification and the next lowest classification. Schools that have the same student population as a school whose student population forms the dividing line between classifications shall be placed with that school into the higher classification. The requisite number of schools then shall be assigned to each successive classification. Once the dividing lines between classifications for a classification term are determined, they shall not be changed during that classification term".
Yes, 1A-4A had fewer teams under the 2021 system, but also had fewer teams qualify for regional playoffs (6 for 1A-4A vs. 8 for 5A-8A). And yes, the range will be 300-400 students from largest to smallest school in most classes, which will be especially pronounced in the new 1A (although it won't matter since that's where Chaminade will reside).
So are we thinking around 75 teams in a class?
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From my understanding the old way of doing things. The smaller classes 1A-3A or 4A didn't those classes have less teams in them? So when they say evenly distribute for 7 classes. Does that mean all classes will have the same number of teams? If so wouldn't this make for some big enrollment discrepancies with the smaller classes?
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37 minutes ago, h8r said:
2 Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood) 13-0 72.20 26.9
3 St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale) 13-1 69.40 36.4
4 Cocoa 13-1 64.60 36.0
5 Norland (Miami) 14-0 63.60 33.3
6 Venice 12-2 58.80 29.4
7 Mandarin (Jacksonville) 11-3 56.30 33.7
8 Buchholz (Gainesville) 13-1 56.30 34.9
9 Central (Miami) 8-4 55.80 43.6This is the top 8(IMG was 1st)....
according to maxpreps rankings, which is what they will be using
thats 8 loaded teams and 4 or 5 state champs and all 8 could possibly win state titles
Absolutely. Would be fun to watch. What I suggested would look like
Big 8
STA, Venice, Mandarin, Buchholx, Mainland, American Heritage, St. Augustine, Lakeland
Small 8
Chaminade, Cocoa, Norland, Central, Clearwater Catholic, Hawthorne, Cardinal Newman, Berkley Prep
Just throwing ideas out there. But I do think there is something to an open division.
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20 hours ago, 181pl said:
for the open division, I don’t think it should be based on any sort of hokie ranking. It should be based on a point system. X amount of points for state titles won within the last five years, X amount of points for total playoff wins in the last five years, X amount of total wins over the last five years, X amount of points for winning percentage over the last five years.
I would also exclude all rural teams from the open division. There’s no way that a small rural team would be able to compete with chaminade. Ever. Not enough of a population to draw from.
I like your ideas. The rankings can't be off the FHSAA rankings this year. What do you think about two open divisions? Say one for 1,500 and up and one for 1,500 and down?
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45 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:
It sounds like they have a working document in process. Not sure if the intent is to have it ready for a vote in that meeting.
Gotcha. They didn't have an open 32 in there. But it did say open 8 division. With weeks 10 and 11 being a kind of district tournament.
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Not sure if it means anything. FHSAA posted they are having a meeting on the 12th. I clicked on the agenda they had a lot of red with things crossed out and other things added in red. Does this meeting they are meeting and voting on the new stuff? Or have they already decided on the new things?
https://fhsaa.com/documents/2023/12/6/BOD_PKT_12_12_2023.pdf
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What does Chaminade have on the lines of scrimmage? I know they're skill positions are loaded.
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On 7/5/2023 at 4:37 PM, VeniceIndianFan said:
TCA was young defensively last season. They have 7 starters returning on the defensive side of the ball from last year, so assuming that they suffer no major injuries, they should see immense improvement on that side of the ball. But @JaxTCA2010stateCHAMP should be more knowledgeable than myself on this matter and able to provide more information on TCA than me. What I can say, though, is that their defense cost them the victory against University Christian last season. I don't foresee TCA having a defensive meltdown like that in the playoffs again until they inevitably run into CMD, where they will undoubtedly need "A LOT,'' to go their way to contain one of CMD's best offensive units in their collective school history.
Against UC, the TCA QB threw 2 pick 6's. Hard to blame that on the defense.
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On 5/5/2023 at 4:20 PM, JaxTCA2010stateCHAMP said:
Jax TCA is playing
American heritage plantation
Rockledge
Bolles and Riverside aka LEE so far.
I can't wait to see the Rockledge game , we've never played them b4.
Rockledge is normally a pretty good team right? Idk alot Bout them
Did you go to Trinitys spring game?
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4 hours ago, JaxTCA2010stateCHAMP said:
We got a 6"2 230 first team all state TE from a school in our district christ church academy
We got a 6'6 280 lbs lineman from Bradford
We got the best WR from BRATRAM TRAIL
WE the best LB from riverside/ lee
There more just gotta figure out all there names and where they came from
We also are returning 24 seniors
Dang I didn't know Bradford had one that big!
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On 5/6/2023 at 4:42 AM, JaxTCA2010stateCHAMP said:
It's a home game for us!
Jax TCA has a pretty good team coming back this year and they got a few good transfers in
What transfer has Trinity got?
Mainland Coach Travis Roland takes Camden County Head Coach Job
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They haven't been nearly as good the last 10 years or so.