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  1. I am going to count these down. Let's start with the 70's. Best offense of the 70's goes to Milton's 1979 squad, coached by legend Hurley Manning.. The Panthers won back-to-back 3A titles (there were 4 classes then) in 1978 and 1979, taking down 2 south FL powerhouses to do it (Atlantic and Glades Central). In 1979, Milton shut out 1976 state champion Godby in the first round 13-0, then put up 40+ points each against Lee and Oviedo. In the final, they ran over Glades Central 35-6. That sort of offensive output in the playoffs was not terribly common. And who led the Panthers both years? It was Greg Allen, one of the fastest athletes to have ever come through FSU. Competing on FSU's track team, Allen ran a 10.82-100 meters, long-jumped 24'11¼" and was clocked at 4.28 in the 40-yard dash. As a true freshman Allen finished with 888 yards and three touchdowns, his 6.4 yards per carry average was 5th best in the nation and enough to earn him freshman All-American honors. He earned All-American honors his junior and senior seasons. He was drafted by the Cleveland Browns in the second round, 35th overall in 1985. His NFL career lasted just two seasons, one year in Cleveland and one in Tampa the following year. He rewrote the FSU record books while he was there. When he graduated, he was atop every single rushing statistic....attempts, yardage, touchdowns, average per carry and he was tops across all the categories: career, season, game. He had all of the records. His record of 20 rushing TD's during the 1982 season and single game rushing record of 322 yards still stand today, over 35 years later. His career rushing yardage of 3769 and 44 career rushing TD's still rank near the top in FSU history.
  2. I believe FHSAA's old website used to have the school populations used to determine classification assignment. I'm not sure if it is on their new website.
  3. Oh boy, I might get in trouble for this one. Not that anyone out there might have strong opinions. To get to the final, this team had to shut down an All-American rb and beat an undefeated team many folks thought was the best team in the state, all-classifications. Fortunately for them, they had their own All-American player to assist with that task. During the season, this team gave gave up less than 10 points per game, on average, including numerous shutouts against quality teams. In the title game, they held their opponent to under 100 yards of total offense and won the game without completing a pass. The classification for which they won the title is arguably one of the most brutal in FHSAA history. Who is the team? What hs All-American played on this state championship team?
  4. It is Dwyer. Very good. That Niceville team took out Lincoln and Edgewater on the road. Dwyer was just...Dwyer that year...a great team.
  5. BM corrected..thank you, Carter. Concerning AHP, "Note that some of the numbers below include students outside grades 9-12."
  6. I know where to find them. You young people really need to get with it and learn how to use technology.
  7. 2 questions left...Hey, how come none of the answers is Madison County? Dissed again. 9. Which 2 counties have had 3 or more private schools in a state final in one year? 10. Which was the first county to have 2 different teams each play in back-to-back state finals?
  8. That is correct! So, it's Miami-Dade, Brevard and Escambia
  9. I did a thread on this a while back. I would say a coach needs a good 5-7 years to lay a sustainable foundation. The operative word there is "sustainable."
  10. Cocoa, Lakeland, Manatee, Mainland, Naples, Niceville, St Augustine, Vero Beach to name a few...I really struggle calling these "rural" programs. They have proven their ability to consistently compete with schools from the big metro areas. I think it is an insult to their programs to potentially lower their level of playoff competition and deny them a chance to compete against some of the best programs.
  11. As I have stated ad nauseum, we have a laser focus on the better teams in the state and how to deal with them. Our biggest threat as a sport are the numerous, floundering programs out there and the widening gap between them and the better teams. Our focus on future systems improvements needs to be upon how to enable those teams to be more competitive and get some momentum. Whether we use the present system or an urban/rural system, that does nothing to help the Tampa Leto's and Strawberry crest's of the world.
  12. It's a perception thing. It won't going over well stating, "Well, you guys really don't win many state titles, so it's a moot point if now we make it even harder for you."
  13. This system will create problems as well, especially if one does not separate private and public schools. All but one of the aforementioned 16 private schools are in an urban area (assumes Tallahassee is "rural") In a manner of speaking, the private school "problem" will become concentrated. Let's assume there would be 3 urban classes and call them Class 1-3. The state finals each year, at least for now, could look like this... Class 3 STA vs public school Class 2 AHP/Cardinal Gibbons vs public school or Bolles Class 1 Chaminade-Madonna vs Trinity Christian For the sake of discussion, let's say public schools in metro areas presently have about 7 chances to get into a state final(2 in 8A, 1 in 7A, 2 in 6A, 1 in 5A, 1 in 4A). With the scenario described above, public schools in metro areas may have 2 slots, at best. How is that going to go over? With our current lineup of powerhouse teams in the state, it is possible that Tampa and Palm Beach-area schools could get left out of the finals for years at a time. Will that be a demotivator? The urban Class 1 would be loaded with strong private school teams. I like the idea that it would improve competition overall. But with the recent trend to have more classes and more playoff teams, I see a lot of squawking when certain public school used to making state finals are potentially getting shut out.
  14. An irony is that there are a ton of weak/marginal teams in those urban counties. I would be very disappointed to see a setup like this. A lot of playoff rivalries developed over many years would be lost. A big city school versus a non-metro school is intriguing for me, ie Edgewater traveling to Niceville for a state semi.
  15. Osceola County is somewhat of a unique situation with that "big dog" phenomenon and a large Hispanic population. Possibly it's a bit like Naples in Collier County or Mainland in Volusia County. That dominant school is going to make it difficult for newer schools to get traction.
  16. I remember those doormat days. It's amazing to think that some of today's doormats might be a powerhouse in the 2050's.
  17. Clearly their behavior is unacceptable. But it begs the question "why?" In addition to being a talented football player, the kid in the first video is supposedly one of the better wrestlers in the state in his weight class. So, he plays at least two contact sports. Wrestling is a fairly disciplined sport and someone who cannot control their anger will have problems. If he was a complete loose cannon, I doubt he would have made it through an entire season and competed at the state wrestling tournament. There are likely certain things that "set him off." He needs therapy, not jail time. Anyone out there who has seen combat and/or grown up in a physically abusive home knows there are certain stimuli which can subconsciously trigger aggressive behavior. We train soldiers to be aggressive, but we don't like it when they return from the battlefield and cannot "turn it off." Similarly, we are encouraging aggressive behavior in teenagers in certain sports, but we don't like the outcomes, at times. There are certain kids who are going to have more of a challenge than others learning how to "turn it off." Take a kid who has some mental health issues, naturally high testosterone levels, and an alcoholic father who beats him, and you've got a time bomb. Whether it be a soldier or a hs football player, it's our responsibility to help these people. In a manner of speaking, we have watered the seed and helped create them. Throwing them in jail is just sweeping the "problem" under the carpet.
  18. A survey of 800 adolescent athletes playing 10 different sports found that 13% of students deliberately tried to hurt an opponent at least once during a game. One Minnesota survey found that 17% of adolescent athletes said that an adult had hit, kicked, and slapped them while participating in sports. Is it any wonder some of these kids might act aggressively? A survey demonstrated that 13% of parents admit they’ve angrily criticized their child’s sport performance after a game...creating stress in kids which can lead to excessive aggression.
  19. It is Wharton. Very good! What they did is very rare in modern times. Most newer programs wait many years, if ever, to make a state final.
  20. When this 13-0 north FL team came into the state final averaging 45 points per game, prospects for a state title looked good. Especially after winning two impressive games on the road to get get there. It was not this program's first trip to a state final. Unfortunately, this team ran into an opponent averaging 48 points per game and led by a high school All-American and future NCAA All-American who lit up the scorecard and led his team a dominating win. Who was the north FL team that suffered that loss and which team beat them?. Who was that hs All-American on the opposing team?
  21. It's a central FL team. They had a couple of big upsets on their playoff run.
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