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  1. For those who suggested separating publics and privates, consider this. How you gonna break up the teams below into classes? Its a problem. I included estimated students each. With 3 classes you might get STA and the 2 AH schools in the largest class with very few others. Are the 2 AH schools gonna play each other in the semis? I wouldn't think they would want that. And how is STA gonna feel facing off with AHP every year for a title. Those two schools like claiming state titles and with 3 classes one is gonna win and one is not. Neither of these 2 schools has EVER played another private school in a state final and I can see them putting up a fuss. With 2 classes, you could have Gibbons playing AHP or STA, which are MUCH larger. Its gonna be AHP v STA in the finals or semis EVERY year. Like above, they aint gonna like that. Unless there is a change, just give the smaller class title to Nade every year. Throw all privates everyone into one class and it's Broward v the world. How would it look having 4 Broward teams STA, AHP, Nade and Gibbons playing each other every year in the semis? If you break them up in the brackets, its still gonna be a Broward v Broward final most years. You could have teams playing other teams that are 4 times their size in the playoffs. We got a couple monsters like AHP and STA that are kinda kept in check being in with public schools. Put them alone with other privates and it could really be ugly. Nade can beat them this year but they will have a downturn at some point like they have before. And it could take away from a state final victory if people are saying STA beat a school less than one third its size. AMH plantation 2800 STA 2000 AMH Delray 1800 Columbus 1700 Trinity Ch 1400 Bishop moors 1400 Cardinal gibbons 1200 Bolles 1000 Mon Pace 900 Jesuit 800 CCC 600 Chaminade 600 Card Newman 500
  2. Cribby before retiring please teach ur qb that spiking the ball and taking a knee are not the same
  3. But there will always be things about ANY system people think are unfair. Take the 25 years between 1970-1994. Dade and Broward county teams each only won a handful of state titles during those years despite dwarfing most other counties. Despite their size, the class/playoff structure meant that only one team from a county would make a title game. People thought that was unfair. Many very good teams did not even make the playoffs. Agree that open enrollment is a huge difference. But so is the mindset of people. If im not making the playoffs or winning, there must be something unfair with the system. Open enrollment itself is not the problem. The problem is the coaches and parents who allow kids to move without consequences like waiting a year before I let you play.
  4. That was when winning your district was a big deal.
  5. Sounds like Cocoa was lucky. I'm sure they wouldn't stand a chance against a private like ST especially if they were playing at Piccolo.
  6. He retiring so he can work on his new baby accessory line.
  7. Well i was a male stripper and know more about exposing than anyone on this board so please leave the exposing stuff up to me.
  8. you missed the point of this thread that everything comes around and everyone has their time in the sun. ST got beat up by several different public schools 2000-2009 and won "only" two titles that decade. They've had a great last 10 years. But nothing stays the same. a certain amount of privates will win titles because of the way the classes are structured. outside the small classes ST and AHP are the only privates one could argue are dominating of late. and if those two schools had to go through the dade powers every year in the playoffs they would have a LOT less titles. they have benefited from favorable class structures. whats funny is that for years privates made excuses that they could never beat the publics because they did not have black players. only old folk remember the decades that privates like st and nade were routinely beaten by the publics in the playoffs. check your history. back in the day when privates were getting beat they did not bitch that we need our own class so we can win a state title once in a while. they took their beatings against the publics for many years in the playoffs. it is their time in the sun now and i am confident that the juggernaut in broward will eventually break up one day. we are already seeing bolles faltering of late. since 2010 privates are 24-9 vs publics in state finals. st is 9-1 and ahp is 5-1. back those out and privates have a 10-7 edge. lets be real it is those two schools that cause the bulk of the upset over private schools of late. of the other 10 wins, its cm, cg, university etc. we don't have a statewide public v private issue. the upset is driven by privates in ONE county. throw all of the other privates in the state together with the broward privates and it would be a joke. there is an elephant in the room called broward county private schools and nobody knows how to address it. 24-9 St 9-1 Ahp 5-1
  9. is it true that Geico is going to sponsor a cribby memorial bowl at Traz this year?
  10. The nerve of people coming on a board like this and expecting to give their opinion.
  11. Private school records since 2005 showing that some publics have done just fine against the private powers AHP v Central 0-3 Bolles v BTW 1-4 Bolles v Cocoa 1-3 ST v Lakeland 1-4 CG v Glades Central 0-6 TC v Cocoa 0-2
  12. A VERY small percentage of ALL private schools have dominated over the past twenty 20 years. If not for Bolles, STA and AHP, we probably would not be having this discussion, because those are the schools that really held the publics back from winning championships. And when you look at state final results over the years, public schools have done just fine when competing against the private schools. Disproportionate YES . A huge problem some make it out to be NO
  13. AHP, CM and Gibbons all have an achilles heel. They are all to some extent like the U. STA is like Ohio st. The difference is fan/alumni support. The U lost its swag because the average alumnus does not relate to the team. Even when the U was winning championships they lacked it. That is what made the program vulnerable. Many alumni are very wealthy white and hispanic kids who have no interest in football and don't relate to inner city kids. Unlike Northwestern alum who are diehard fans for life, I dont see a lot of kids from those 3 private schools being online wathching their school play 25 years from now. And if their football programs collapse i doubt they will care and offer to write a check. Unlike STA fans.
  14. Back then you would have been laughed at suggesting Miami Central and Chaminade would EVER be amongst the best in the nation. They were below average to terrible in the 80's and 90's. Many of the programs above were bad for LONG periods of time. We talk about haves and have nots, but STA and Lakeland are the ONLY programs over the past 20 years that have consistently had very strong teams year in and out. Some of these teams may be riding a crest now but could be doormats in 20 years. Nade had a huge dropoff for about 10 years and it could happen again very quickly. Yes it is VERY different today. But the scene today has not made it any easier for the rich to stay in power. If anything it is easier for a great program to completely collapse. The rich might be rich today but I would bet on ANY of the rich teams today being in that same position 20 years from now except for STA.
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