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Could drastic changes be coming to FHSAA Playoffs in 2017

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Mr. Wilson,

 

As some have suggested, shrinking of a classification does many away with many of the "negatives" of the current system. It seems weird that we would invent a Rube Goldberg machine solution when there are simpler answers. Even my own promotion/relegation answer is complicated. Just to give an example, Lincoln has been ranked #1 (in the very first proposal) to the point where they might not even make the playoffs. This a team that won it's first round playoff game against a team (Robert E. Lee) that has been consistently in the playoffs in each proposed scenario. So my question becomes, did Lincoln not prove they were a quality team by winning the playoff regardless of their 4-6 record.

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Mr. Wilson,

 

As some have suggested, shrinking of a classification does many away with many of the "negatives" of the current system. It seems weird that we would invent a Rube Goldberg machine solution when there are simpler answers. Even my own promotion/relegation answer is complicated. Just to give an example, Lincoln has been ranked #1 (in the very first proposal) to the point where they might not even make the playoffs. This a team that won it's first round playoff game against a team (Robert E. Lee) that has been consistently in the playoffs in each proposed scenario. So my question becomes, did Lincoln not prove they were a quality team by winning the playoff regardless of their 4-6 record.

 

Gatorman,

 

Lincoln did prove it so I won't argue with it. I have something I want to post here and I may just post here it to show everyone. Something else I worked on a while back and since things are very active right now with this topic I am going to pop on here. Once I do, I would love to see your opinion of it.

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Something is going to happen wither it is this or some modification to the system we have now. The playoffs need a jolt somewhere, but this playing cross district and having rematches Round 2 just doesn't do anything. I will also say though if given time to allow the FHSAA to test this new system we might see some incredible things. The data used so far is based use part of schedules with teams in districts so it is not reflecting totally of the teams possibly being in a conference in their county/area with the schedule not being mandated with district games either. 

 

There is a lot here, but this is going to be fun to see what the end result comes to be.

 

Mr. Wilson,

 

How does your system prevent 2nd round re-matches or even 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round rematches? Again, you are suggesting that the old system is broken without realizing that your system doesn't fix the very thing you are railing against. 

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This is an option that is being floated about allowing district champs to get in (would be seeded still based on points but they would be seed 1-4 first) and then the other four spots are earned based on points. Very possible this happens, but I will say this coming from my own opinion is that if they did this, then expect the FHSAA to tighten up the districts and make it to where its going to be tough to appeal up or down. Play where you are assigned and see how you do. 

That's how it should be. You should not be able to move up or down. You play where you are assigned. I think there would be very few teams that would choose to opt out if given the hard stance. If you don't like where the figures put you, then play an independent schedule.

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Mr. Wilson,

 

How does your system prevent 2nd round re-matches or even 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round rematches? Again, you are suggesting that the old system is broken without realizing that your system doesn't fix the very thing you are railing against. 

 

Gatorman,

 

First call me Josh.... just the Mr. Wilson thing gets me a little crazy LOL (not your fault)

 

The thing is we are not sure totally if it prevents 1st, 2nd and 3rd round rematches because the biggest thing here is we are using data that semi forces those rematches based upon teams playing each other in a district setting. Good chance that say Columbia for example is scheduling all 10 games. Almost every single 7A team they played in district likely wouldn't be played by Columbia thus the rematch is not possible. If the FHSAA was to test this out for say even two years or four years to get a gauge on things, what is it to hurt to do this and if its not working out we can revert? I rather seem try something out totally and know the answer than not do it at all and have a lot of what ifs.

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Here is something I showed Frank Beasley and something that could be considered in mix with a point system:

 

Would still keep eight classes, but the approach is different:

 

All numbers used are from 2015 enrollment numbers. Independent schools were removed before dividing up to make this worthwhile. 1A was bumped up to even the number of schools out. Note Wildwood is not considered for 1A as they have to sit out three three years and this year is year two since they broke from district play due to not fielding a team in 2015. Also note since this was done Bronson went independent, so 1A would be 39 schools at this point based upon this, but 1A has done well with 38-40 schools on average.

 

8A - 50 Largest Schools - 2,590-4,609
7A - 76 schools (would be 77, but Tate was moved to 6A due to geographic isolation, not sending them to Jacksonville for district) - 2,145-2,589
6A - 77 schools - 1,801-2,144
5A - 76 schools - 1,530-1,800
4A - 76 schools - 950-1,529
3A - 40 schools - 470-949
2A - 40 schools - 1-469
1A - 40 schools - 1-665 and rural
 
The reason I suggest 8 is you find a lot of balance. I had no trouble creating districts between 5-8 teams in most classes until I got to the lower classes. Only in one instance did I have a three team district, but also had several 4 team districts. 7A, 6A, 5A and 4A I used a 12 district format instead of the current 16 district format. This seems to work nicely. The rest use the 8 district format, but I suggested just doing two regions instead of four in those classes to make a new playoff format work properly. 
 

Class 8A

(50 Schools)

2015 Student Enrollment 2,590-4,609

 

Region I - North

(27 schools)

 

District 1

(7 schools)

Lake Brantley (Altamonte Springs)

Lake Mary

Lyman (Longwood)

Sandalwood (Jacksonville)

Seminole (Sanford)
Spruce Creek (Port Orange)

University (Orange City)

 

District 2

(7 schools)

Apopka
Boone (Orlando)
Colonial (Orlando)
Timber Creek (Orlando)

University (Orlando)
Winter Park
West Orange (Winter Garden)

 

District 3
(7 schools)

Alonso (Tampa)
Cypress Creek (Orlando)
Dr. Phillips (Orlando)
Newsome (Lithia)
Oak Ridge (Orlando)
Olympia (Orlando)

Osceola (Kissimmee)

 

District 4
(6 schools)

Fort Pierce Central
Jupiter
Palm Beach Gardens
Palm Beach Central (Wellington)

Treasure Coast (Port St. Lucie)

Vero Beach
 

Region II - South
(23 schools)

 

District 5
(6 schools)

Boca Raton

Coral Springs

Douglas (Parkland)
John I. Leonard (Greenacres)
Park Vista (Lake Worth)

Taravella (Coral Springs)

 

District 6

(5 schools)

Cypress Bay (Weston)
Flanagan (Pembroke Pines)
Miramar
West Broward (Pembroke Pines)

Western (Davie)

 

District 7

(6 schools)

Coral Gables

Columbus (Miami)

Dr. Krop (Miami)

Hialeah Gardens

Miami

Miami Coral Park

 

District 8

(6 schools)

Braddock (Miami)

Coral Reef (Miami)

Ferguson (Miami)

South Dade (Homestead)
Southwest Miami
Varela (Miami)

 

Class 7A
(76 Schools)

2015 Student Enrollment 2,145-2,589

 

Region I
(16 Schools)

 

District 1
(5 Schools)

Buchholz (Gainesville)
Fleming Island (Orange Park)
Fletcher (Neptune Beach)
Mandarin (Jacksonville)
Oakleaf (Orange Park)

 

District 2
(6 schools)
DeLand
Flagler Palm Coast
Hagerty (Oviedo)
Lake Howell (Winter Park)
Oviedo
Winter Springs

 

District 3
(5 schools)
East Ridge (Clermont)
Evans (Orlando)
Ocoee
Wekiva (Apopka)
West Port (Ocala)

 

Region II
(17 Schools)

 

District 4
(6 Schools)

Celebration
Freedom (Orlando)
Gateway (Kissimmee)
Lake Nona
Melbourne

St. Cloud

 

District 5
(6 Schools)

Bartow
George Jenkins (Lakeland)
Kathleen (Lakeland)
Lakeland
Haines City
Ridge Community (Davenport)

 

District 6
(5 schools)
George Steinbrenner (Lutz)
Sickles (Tampa)
Plant (Tampa)
Wharton (Tampa)
Wiregrass Ranch (Wesley Chapel)

 

Region III
(19 Schools)

 

District 7
(7 schools)

Bloomingdale (Valrico)
Durant (Plant City)
East Bay (Gibsonton)
Lennard (Ruskin)
Plant City
Riverview (Riverview)
Strawberry Crest (Dover)

 

District 8
(6 Schools)

East Lake (Tarpon Springs)
Lakewood Ranch (Bradenton)
Manatee (Bradenton)
North Port
Palm Harbor University
Riverview (Sarasota)

 

District 9
(6 Schools)
Centennial (Port St. Lucie)
Martin County (Stuart)
Palm Beach Lakes (West Palm Beach)
Royal Palm Beach
Seminole Ridge (Loxahatchee)
Wellington

 

Region IV
(23 Schools)

 

District 10
(7 Schools)

Atlantic (Delray Beach)
Deerfield Beach
Forest Hill (West Palm Beach)
Lake Worth
Monarch (Coconut Creek)
Santaluces (Lantana)
Spanish River (Boca Raton)

 

District 11
(9 schools)

Cooper City
Everglades (Miramar)

Fort Lauderdale
McArthur (Hollywood)
Nova (Davie)
Piper
Plantation
South Plantation
St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale)

 

District 12
(8 schools)

American (Hialeah)
Hialeah
Miami Beach
Miami Killian
Miami Palmetto
North Miami
Reagan (Doral)
South Miami
 

Class 6A

(77 Schools)

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 1,801-2,144

 

Region I

(19 Schools)
 

District 1
(6 Schools)

Crestview
Navarre
Niceville
Pace
Tate (Cantonment)
Washington (Pensacola)

 

District 2
(6 Schools)

Chiles (Tallahassee)
Columbia (Lake City)
Forest (Ocala)
Gainesville
Leon (Tallahassee)
Lincoln (Tallahassee)

 

District 3
(7 Schools)
Atlantic Coast (Jacksonville)
Bartram Trail (St. Johns)
Creekside (St. Johns)

Englewood (Jacksonville)
First Coast (Jacksonville)
Nease (Ponte Vedra)
Robert E. Lee (Jacksonville)
 

Region II
(18 schools)

 

District 4
(6 Schools)

East River (Orlando)
Edgewater (Orlando)
Lake Minneola
Mainland (Daytona Beach)
New Smyrna Beach
South Lake (Groveland)

 

District 5
(5 Schools)

Harmony
Heritage (Palm Bay)
Liberty (Kissimmee)
Sebastian River (Sebastian)
Viera (Melbourne)

 

District 6
(7 Schools)

Armwood (Seffner)
Brandon
Freedom (Tampa)
King (Tampa)
Lake Gibson (Lakeland)
Tampa Bay Tech
Winter Haven

 

Region III
(17 schools)
 

District 7
(6 Schools)

Chamberlain (Tampa)
Gaither (Tampa)
Hillsborough (Tampa)
Leto (Tampa)
Mitchell (New Port Richey)
Sunlake (Land O'Lakes)

 

District 8
(6 Schools)

Clearwater
Countryside (Clearwater)
Dixie Hollins (St. Petersburg)
Pinellas Park (Largo)
Seminole (Seminole)
St. Petersburg

 

District 9
(5 schools)

Braden River (Bradenton)
Charlotte (Punta Gorda)
Palmetto
Sarasota
Venice

 

Region IV
(23 schools)

 

District 10
(8 Schools)

East Lee County (Lehigh Acres)
Fort Myers
Gulf Coast (Naples)
Ida Baker (Cape Coral)
Lehigh (Lehigh Acres)
Palmetto Ridge (Naples)
Riverdale (Fort Myers)

South Fort Myers

 

District 11
(7 Schools)

Blanche Ely (Pompano Beach)
Boynton Beach
Dwyer (Palm Beach Gardens)
Northeast (Oakland Park)
Olympic Heights (Boca Raton)
South Fork (Stuart)
West Boca Raton

 

District 12
(8 Schools)

Doral (Miami)
Hollywood Hills
Homestead
Mater Academy (Hialeah)
Miami Central
Miami Southridge
South Broward (Hollywood)
Westland Hialeah
 

Class 5A

76 Schools
Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 1,530-1,800

 

Region I

 

District 1
(8 Schools)

Arnold (Panama City Beach)
Choctawhatchee (Fort Walton Beach)
Escambia (Pensacola)
Fort Walton Beach
Gulf Breeze
Milton
Mosley (Lynn Haven)
Pine Forest (Pensacola)

 

District 2
(7 Schools)

Ed White (Jacksonville)
Middleburg
Orange Park
Ponte Vedra
Ridgeview (Orange Park)
St. Augustine
Terry Parker (Jacksonville)

 

District 3
(8 Schools)

Belleview

Deltona
Lake Weir (Ocala)
Leesburg
Matanzas (Palm Coast)
Pine Ridge (Deltona)
Seabreeze (Daytona Beach)
Vanguard (Ocala)

 

Region II

 

District 4
(5 Schools)

Land O'Lakes
Lecanto
River Ridge (New Port Richey)
Springstead (Spring Hill)
Weeki Wachee

 

District 5
(6 schools)

Auburndale
Lake Region (Eagle Lake)

Pasco (Dade City)
Poinciana (Kissimmee)
Wesley Chapel
Zephyrhills

 

District 6
(6 Schools)
Blake (Tampa)
Jefferson (Tampa)
Jesuit (Tampa)
Middleton (Tampa)
Robinson (Tampa)
Spoto (Riverview)

 

Region III

 

District 7
(5 schools)

Boca Ciega (North Port)
Largo
Northeast (St. Petersburg)
Osceola (Seminole)
Southeast (Bradenton)

 

District 8
(6 Schools)

Cape Coral
Cypress Lake (Fort Myers)
Dunbar (Fort Myers)
Island Coast (Cape Coral)
North Fort Myers
Port Charlotte

 

District 9
(6 schools)

Barron Collier (Naples)
Estero
Golden Gate (Naples)
Immokalee
Lely (Naples)
Naples

 

Region IV

 

District 10
(7 Schools)

Bayside (Palm Bay)
Eau Gallie (Melbourne)
Jensen Beach
Okeechobee
Palm Bay (Melbourne)
Port St. Lucie

Sebring

 

District 11
(5 schools)

Boyd Anderson (Lauderdale Lakes)
Dillard (Fort Lauderdale)
Miami Norland
Mourning (North Miami)
North Miami Beach

 

District 12
(7 schools)

Belen Jesuit (Miami)
Goleman (Miami)
Hialeah-Miami Lakes
Miami Jackson
Miami Northwestern
Miami Sunset
Miami Springs

 

Class 4A
(76 Schools)
Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 950-1,529

 

Region I

 

District 1
(7 Schools)

Bay (Panama City)
Godby (Tallahassee)
Pensacola
Rickards (Tallahassee)
Rutherford (Panama City)
Wakulla (Crawfordville)
West Florida (Pensacola)

 

District 2
(7 schools)

Baker County (Glen St. Mary)
Paxon (Jacksonville)
Raines (Jacksonville)
Ribault (Jacksonville)
Stanton (Jacksonville)
West Nassau (Callahan)
Yulee

 

District 3
(6 schools)

Bishop Kenny (Jacksonville)
Clay (Green Cove Springs)
Menendez (St. Augustine)

Palatka

Westside (Jacksonville)
Wolfson (Jacksonville)

 

Region II

 

District 4
(5 schools)

Dunnellon
Eastside (Gainesville)
North Marion (Citra)
Suwannee (Live Oak)
Santa Fe (Alachua)

 

District 5
(6 schools)

Central (Brooksville)
Citrus (Inverness)
Crystal River
Hernando (Brooksville)
Nature Coast (Brooksville)
South Sumter (Bushnell)

 

District 6
(6 schools)

Atlantic (Port Orange)
Bishop Moore (Orlando)
Eustis
Jones (Orlando)
Mount Dora
Tavares

 

Region III
 

District 7
(7 schools)

Anclote (Holiday)
Dunedin
Hudson
Fivay (Hudson)
Gulf (New Port Richey)
Ridgewood (New Port Richey)
Tarpon Springs

 

District 8
(5 schools)

Bayshore (Bradenton)
Booker (Sarasota)
Gibbs (St. Petersburg)
Lakewood (St. Petersburg)
Lemon Bay (Englewood)

 

District 9
(8 Schools)

Avon Park
DeSoto County (Arcadia)
Hardee (Wauchula)
LaBelle
Lake Wales
Mariner (Cape Coral)
Mulberry
Tenoroc (Lakeland)

 

Region IV


District 10
(7 schools)

Astronaut (Titusville)
Fort Pierce Westwood
Merritt Island
Rockledge
Satellite (Satellite Beach)
Space Coast (Cocoa)
Titusville

 

District 11
(6 schools)

American Heritage (Plantation)
Cardinal Gibbons (Fort Lauderdale)
Coconut Creek
Glades Central (Belle Glade)
Stranahan (Fort Lauderdale)
Suncoast (Riviera Beach)

 

District 12
(6 schools)

Gulliver Prep (Pinecrest)
Hallandale
Keys Gate Charter (Homestead)
Miami Carol City
Somerset Academy (Pembroke Pines)
Washington (Miami)

 

CLASS 3A
40 Schools

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 470-949

 

Region I – North

 

District 1
(6 Schools)

East Gadsden (Havana)
Florida High (Tallahassee)
Marianna

Pensacola Catholic
South Walton (Santa Rosa Beach)
Walton (DeFuniak Springs)

 

District 2
(5 Schools)

Andrew Jackson (Jacksonville)
Bolles (Jacksonville)
Duval Charter (Jacksonville)
Episcopal (Jacksonville)
Fernandina Beach

 

District 3
(6 Schools)

Bradford (Starke)
Interlachen
Keystone Heights
Trinity Catholic (Ocala)
Umatilla
Villages

 

District 4
(5 Schools)

Cocoa
Father Lopez (Daytona Beach)
Lake Highland Prep (Orlando)
Melbourne Central Catholic
Trinity Prep (Winter Park)

 

Region II – South

 

District 5
(4 Schools)

Berkeley Prep (Tampa)
Cardinal Mooney (Sarasota)
Clearwater Central Catholic
Tampa Catholic

 

District 6
(4 Schools)

Bishop Verot (Fort Myers)
Clewiston
Gateway Charter (Fort Myers)
Lake Placid

 

District 7
(4 schools)

American Heritage (Delray Beach)
Cardinal Newman (West Palm Beach)
Oxbridge Academy (West Palm Beach)
St. John Paul II (West Palm Beach)

 

District 8
(6 schools)

Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood)
Everglades Prep (Miami)
Miami Edison
Monsignor Pace (Homestead)
University School (Fort Lauderdale)
Westminster Christian (Miami)

 

Class 2A

(40 Schools)

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 1-469

 

Region I – North

District 1
(4 Schools)

FAMU (Tallahassee)
Maclay (Tallahassee)
North Florida Christian (Tallahassee)
P.K. Yonge (Gainesville)

 

District 2
(6 Schools)

Cedar Creek Christian (Jacksonville)
Eagle's View (Jacksonville)
Harvest Community (Jacksonville)
Providence (Jacksonville)
Trinity Christian (Jacksonville)
University Christian (Jacksonville)

 

District 3
(3 Schools)
Halifax (Daytona Beach)
Trinity Christian (Deltona)
Warner Christian (South Daytona)

 

District 4
(5 Schools)
Cornerstone Charter (Belle Isle)
First Academy (Orlando)
Foundation Academy (Winter Garden)
Holy Trinity (Melbourne)
John Carroll (Fort Pierce)

 

Region II – South

 

District 5
(5 Schools)

Cambridge (Tampa)
Carrollwood (Tampa)
Lakeland Christian
Seffner Christian
Victory Christian (Lakeland)

 

District 6
(5 Schools)

Admiral Farragut (St. Petersburg)
Calvary Christian (Clearwater)
Indian Rocks Christian (Largo)
Northside Christian (St. Petersburg)
St. Petersburg Catholic

 

District 7
(7 Schools)
Community School (Naples)
Evangelical Christian (Fort Myers)
First Baptist (Naples)
Marco Island Academy
Moore Haven
St. John Neumann (Naples)
Southwest Florida Christian (Fort Myers)

 

District 8
(5 Schools)

Champagnat (Hialeah)
Dade Christian (Miami)
International School of Broward (Hollywood)
Somerset Charter (Silver Palms)
Village Academy (Delray Beach)

 

Class 1A
(40 Schools)

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 1-665

 

Region I – North (West)
 

District 1
(4 Schools)

Baker
Freeport
Jay
Northview (Bratt)

 

District 2
(4 Schools)

Cottondale
Graceville
Sneads
Wewahitchka

 

District 3
(4 Schools)

Bozeman (Panama City)
Chipley
Holmes County (Bonifay)

Vernon
 

District 4
(5 Schools)

Blountstown
Franklin County (Eastpoint)
Liberty County (Bristol)
Port St. Joe
West Gadsden (Greensboro)

 

Region II – South (East)

 

District 5
(6 Schools)

Branford
Hamilton County (Jasper)
Jefferson County (Monticello)
Lafayette (Mayo)
Madison County (Madison)
Taylor County (Perry)

 

District 6
(6 Schools)

Baldwin
Fort White
Hawthorne
Hilliard
Newberry
Union County (Lake Butler)

 

District 7

(6 Schools)
Bell
Bronson
Chiefland
Dixie County (Cross City)
Trenton
Williston

 

District 8
(5 Schools)

Crescent City
Fort Meade
Frostproof

Pahokee
Taylor (Pierson)

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Gatorman,

 

First call me Josh.... just the Mr. Wilson thing gets me a little crazy LOL (not your fault)

 

The thing is we are not sure totally if it prevents 1st, 2nd and 3rd round rematches because the biggest thing here is we are using data that semi forces those rematches based upon teams playing each other in a district setting. Good chance that say Columbia for example is scheduling all 10 games. Almost every single 7A team they played in district likely wouldn't be played by Columbia thus the rematch is not possible. If the FHSAA was to test this out for say even two years or four years to get a gauge on things, what is it to hurt to do this and if its not working out we can revert? I rather seem try something out totally and know the answer than not do it at all and have a lot of what ifs.

Only reason we had a rematch with Lincoln last year was by use scheduling them as a non confremce game but it was not because of being forced, any system has a chance for a rematch if the team willingly scheduled a team from their class

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I just think you are asking to much of 1A to add Taylor county, Madison, Union county, Baldwin and Fort White to 1A. 660 kids vs a school like Hawthorne with 140 to 150 is just asking to much. 

However, you say that, but Hawthorne was in the hunt for a playoff spot until the very end so that is where I am trying to figure out where this would hold water at. I get what you are saying, but I think it all goes back to the Coaching and the players you have not your enrollment. If Jefferson County (second smallest of the 1A schools) was able to reach the playoffs against some bigger teams and Hawthorne was close, it shows the system is doing what it should be if the right things are in place.

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Here is something I showed Frank Beasley and something that could be considered in mix with a point system:

 

Would still keep eight classes, but the approach is different:

 

All numbers used are from 2015 enrollment numbers. Independent schools were removed before dividing up to make this worthwhile. 1A was bumped up to even the number of schools out. Note Wildwood is not considered for 1A as they have to sit out three three years and this year is year two since they broke from district play due to not fielding a team in 2015. Also note since this was done Bronson went independent, so 1A would be 39 schools at this point based upon this, but 1A has done well with 38-40 schools on average.

 

8A - 50 Largest Schools - 2,590-4,609

7A - 76 schools (would be 77, but Tate was moved to 6A due to geographic isolation, not sending them to Jacksonville for district) - 2,145-2,589

6A - 77 schools - 1,801-2,144

5A - 76 schools - 1,530-1,800

4A - 76 schools - 950-1,529

3A - 40 schools - 470-949

2A - 40 schools - 1-469

1A - 40 schools - 1-665 and rural

 

 

The reason I suggest 8 is you find a lot of balance. I had no trouble creating districts between 5-8 teams in most classes until I got to the lower classes. Only in one instance did I have a three team district, but also had several 4 team districts. 7A, 6A, 5A and 4A I used a 12 district format instead of the current 16 district format. This seems to work nicely. The rest use the 8 district format, but I suggested just doing two regions instead of four in those classes to make a new playoff format work properly.

 

 

Class 8A

(50 Schools)

2015 Student Enrollment 2,590-4,609

 

Region I - North

(27 schools)

 

District 1

(7 schools)

Lake Brantley (Altamonte Springs)

Lake Mary

Lyman (Longwood)

Sandalwood (Jacksonville)

Seminole (Sanford)

Spruce Creek (Port Orange)

University (Orange City)

 

District 2

(7 schools)

Apopka

Boone (Orlando)

Colonial (Orlando)

Timber Creek (Orlando)

University (Orlando)

Winter Park

West Orange (Winter Garden)

 

District 3

(7 schools)

Alonso (Tampa)

Cypress Creek (Orlando)

Dr. Phillips (Orlando)

Newsome (Lithia)

Oak Ridge (Orlando)

Olympia (Orlando)

Osceola (Kissimmee)

 

District 4

(6 schools)

Fort Pierce Central

Jupiter

Palm Beach Gardens

Palm Beach Central (Wellington)

Treasure Coast (Port St. Lucie)

Vero Beach

 

Region II - South

(23 schools)

 

District 5

(6 schools)

Boca Raton

Coral Springs

Douglas (Parkland)

John I. Leonard (Greenacres)

Park Vista (Lake Worth)

Taravella (Coral Springs)

 

District 6

(5 schools)

Cypress Bay (Weston)

Flanagan (Pembroke Pines)

Miramar

West Broward (Pembroke Pines)

Western (Davie)

 

District 7

(6 schools)

Coral Gables

Columbus (Miami)

Dr. Krop (Miami)

Hialeah Gardens

Miami

Miami Coral Park

 

District 8

(6 schools)

Braddock (Miami)

Coral Reef (Miami)

Ferguson (Miami)

South Dade (Homestead)

Southwest Miami

Varela (Miami)

 

Class 7A

(76 Schools)

2015 Student Enrollment 2,145-2,589

 

Region I

(16 Schools)

 

District 1

(5 Schools)

Buchholz (Gainesville)

Fleming Island (Orange Park)

Fletcher (Neptune Beach)

Mandarin (Jacksonville)

Oakleaf (Orange Park)

 

District 2

(6 schools)

DeLand

Flagler Palm Coast

Hagerty (Oviedo)

Lake Howell (Winter Park)

Oviedo

Winter Springs

 

District 3

(5 schools)

East Ridge (Clermont)

Evans (Orlando)

Ocoee

Wekiva (Apopka)

West Port (Ocala)

 

Region II

(17 Schools)

 

District 4

(6 Schools)

Celebration

Freedom (Orlando)

Gateway (Kissimmee)

Lake Nona

Melbourne

St. Cloud

 

District 5

(6 Schools)

Bartow

George Jenkins (Lakeland)

Kathleen (Lakeland)

Lakeland

Haines City

Ridge Community (Davenport)

 

District 6

(5 schools)

George Steinbrenner (Lutz)

Sickles (Tampa)

Plant (Tampa)

Wharton (Tampa)

Wiregrass Ranch (Wesley Chapel)

 

Region III

(19 Schools)

 

District 7

(7 schools)

Bloomingdale (Valrico)

Durant (Plant City)

East Bay (Gibsonton)

Lennard (Ruskin)

Plant City

Riverview (Riverview)

Strawberry Crest (Dover)

 

District 8

(6 Schools)

East Lake (Tarpon Springs)

Lakewood Ranch (Bradenton)

Manatee (Bradenton)

North Port

Palm Harbor University

Riverview (Sarasota)

 

District 9

(6 Schools)

Centennial (Port St. Lucie)

Martin County (Stuart)

Palm Beach Lakes (West Palm Beach)

Royal Palm Beach

Seminole Ridge (Loxahatchee)

Wellington

 

Region IV

(23 Schools)

 

District 10

(7 Schools)

Atlantic (Delray Beach)

Deerfield Beach

Forest Hill (West Palm Beach)

Lake Worth

Monarch (Coconut Creek)

Santaluces (Lantana)

Spanish River (Boca Raton)

 

District 11

(9 schools)

Cooper City

Everglades (Miramar)

Fort Lauderdale

McArthur (Hollywood)

Nova (Davie)

Piper

Plantation

South Plantation

St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale)

 

District 12

(8 schools)

American (Hialeah)

Hialeah

Miami Beach

Miami Killian

Miami Palmetto

North Miami

Reagan (Doral)

South Miami

 

Class 6A

(77 Schools)

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 1,801-2,144

 

Region I

(19 Schools)

 

District 1

(6 Schools)

Crestview

Navarre

Niceville

Pace

Tate (Cantonment)

Washington (Pensacola)

 

District 2

(6 Schools)

Chiles (Tallahassee)

Columbia (Lake City)

Forest (Ocala)

Gainesville

Leon (Tallahassee)

Lincoln (Tallahassee)

 

District 3

(7 Schools)

Atlantic Coast (Jacksonville)

Bartram Trail (St. Johns)

Creekside (St. Johns)

Englewood (Jacksonville)

First Coast (Jacksonville)

Nease (Ponte Vedra)

Robert E. Lee (Jacksonville)

 

Region II

(18 schools)

 

District 4

(6 Schools)

East River (Orlando)

Edgewater (Orlando)

Lake Minneola

Mainland (Daytona Beach)

New Smyrna Beach

South Lake (Groveland)

 

District 5

(5 Schools)

Harmony

Heritage (Palm Bay)

Liberty (Kissimmee)

Sebastian River (Sebastian)

Viera (Melbourne)

 

District 6

(7 Schools)

Armwood (Seffner)

Brandon

Freedom (Tampa)

King (Tampa)

Lake Gibson (Lakeland)

Tampa Bay Tech

Winter Haven

 

Region III

(17 schools)

 

District 7

(6 Schools)

Chamberlain (Tampa)

Gaither (Tampa)

Hillsborough (Tampa)

Leto (Tampa)

Mitchell (New Port Richey)

Sunlake (Land O'Lakes)

 

District 8

(6 Schools)

Clearwater

Countryside (Clearwater)

Dixie Hollins (St. Petersburg)

Pinellas Park (Largo)

Seminole (Seminole)

St. Petersburg

 

District 9

(5 schools)

Braden River (Bradenton)

Charlotte (Punta Gorda)

Palmetto

Sarasota

Venice

 

Region IV

(23 schools)

 

District 10

(8 Schools)

East Lee County (Lehigh Acres)

Fort Myers

Gulf Coast (Naples)

Ida Baker (Cape Coral)

Lehigh (Lehigh Acres)

Palmetto Ridge (Naples)

Riverdale (Fort Myers)

South Fort Myers

 

District 11

(7 Schools)

Blanche Ely (Pompano Beach)

Boynton Beach

Dwyer (Palm Beach Gardens)

Northeast (Oakland Park)

Olympic Heights (Boca Raton)

South Fork (Stuart)

West Boca Raton

 

District 12

(8 Schools)

Doral (Miami)

Hollywood Hills

Homestead

Mater Academy (Hialeah)

Miami Central

Miami Southridge

South Broward (Hollywood)

Westland Hialeah

 

Class 5A

76 Schools

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 1,530-1,800

 

Region I

 

District 1

(8 Schools)

Arnold (Panama City Beach)

Choctawhatchee (Fort Walton Beach)

Escambia (Pensacola)

Fort Walton Beach

Gulf Breeze

Milton

Mosley (Lynn Haven)

Pine Forest (Pensacola)

 

District 2

(7 Schools)

Ed White (Jacksonville)

Middleburg

Orange Park

Ponte Vedra

Ridgeview (Orange Park)

St. Augustine

Terry Parker (Jacksonville)

 

District 3

(8 Schools)

Belleview

Deltona

Lake Weir (Ocala)

Leesburg

Matanzas (Palm Coast)

Pine Ridge (Deltona)

Seabreeze (Daytona Beach)

Vanguard (Ocala)

 

Region II

 

District 4

(5 Schools)

Land O'Lakes

Lecanto

River Ridge (New Port Richey)

Springstead (Spring Hill)

Weeki Wachee

 

District 5

(6 schools)

Auburndale

Lake Region (Eagle Lake)

Pasco (Dade City)

Poinciana (Kissimmee)

Wesley Chapel

Zephyrhills

 

District 6

(6 Schools)

Blake (Tampa)

Jefferson (Tampa)

Jesuit (Tampa)

Middleton (Tampa)

Robinson (Tampa)

Spoto (Riverview)

 

Region III

 

District 7

(5 schools)

Boca Ciega (North Port)

Largo

Northeast (St. Petersburg)

Osceola (Seminole)

Southeast (Bradenton)

 

District 8

(6 Schools)

Cape Coral

Cypress Lake (Fort Myers)

Dunbar (Fort Myers)

Island Coast (Cape Coral)

North Fort Myers

Port Charlotte

 

District 9

(6 schools)

Barron Collier (Naples)

Estero

Golden Gate (Naples)

Immokalee

Lely (Naples)

Naples

 

Region IV

 

District 10

(7 Schools)

Bayside (Palm Bay)

Eau Gallie (Melbourne)

Jensen Beach

Okeechobee

Palm Bay (Melbourne)

Port St. Lucie

Sebring

 

District 11

(5 schools)

Boyd Anderson (Lauderdale Lakes)

Dillard (Fort Lauderdale)

Miami Norland

Mourning (North Miami)

North Miami Beach

 

District 12

(7 schools)

Belen Jesuit (Miami)

Goleman (Miami)

Hialeah-Miami Lakes

Miami Jackson

Miami Northwestern

Miami Sunset

Miami Springs

 

Class 4A

(76 Schools)

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 950-1,529

 

Region I

 

District 1

(7 Schools)

Bay (Panama City)

Godby (Tallahassee)

Pensacola

Rickards (Tallahassee)

Rutherford (Panama City)

Wakulla (Crawfordville)

West Florida (Pensacola)

 

District 2

(7 schools)

Baker County (Glen St. Mary)

Paxon (Jacksonville)

Raines (Jacksonville)

Ribault (Jacksonville)

Stanton (Jacksonville)

West Nassau (Callahan)

Yulee

 

District 3

(6 schools)

Bishop Kenny (Jacksonville)

Clay (Green Cove Springs)

Menendez (St. Augustine)

Palatka

Westside (Jacksonville)

Wolfson (Jacksonville)

 

Region II

 

District 4

(5 schools)

Dunnellon

Eastside (Gainesville)

North Marion (Citra)

Suwannee (Live Oak)

Santa Fe (Alachua)

 

District 5

(6 schools)

Central (Brooksville)

Citrus (Inverness)

Crystal River

Hernando (Brooksville)

Nature Coast (Brooksville)

South Sumter (Bushnell)

 

District 6

(6 schools)

Atlantic (Port Orange)

Bishop Moore (Orlando)

Eustis

Jones (Orlando)

Mount Dora

Tavares

 

Region III

 

District 7

(7 schools)

Anclote (Holiday)

Dunedin

Hudson

Fivay (Hudson)

Gulf (New Port Richey)

Ridgewood (New Port Richey)

Tarpon Springs

 

District 8

(5 schools)

Bayshore (Bradenton)

Booker (Sarasota)

Gibbs (St. Petersburg)

Lakewood (St. Petersburg)

Lemon Bay (Englewood)

 

District 9

(8 Schools)

Avon Park

DeSoto County (Arcadia)

Hardee (Wauchula)

LaBelle

Lake Wales

Mariner (Cape Coral)

Mulberry

Tenoroc (Lakeland)

 

Region IV

 

District 10

(7 schools)

Astronaut (Titusville)

Fort Pierce Westwood

Merritt Island

Rockledge

Satellite (Satellite Beach)

Space Coast (Cocoa)

Titusville

 

District 11

(6 schools)

American Heritage (Plantation)

Cardinal Gibbons (Fort Lauderdale)

Coconut Creek

Glades Central (Belle Glade)

Stranahan (Fort Lauderdale)

Suncoast (Riviera Beach)

 

District 12

(6 schools)

Gulliver Prep (Pinecrest)

Hallandale

Keys Gate Charter (Homestead)

Miami Carol City

Somerset Academy (Pembroke Pines)

Washington (Miami)

 

CLASS 3A

40 Schools

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 470-949

 

Region I – North

 

District 1

(6 Schools)

East Gadsden (Havana)

Florida High (Tallahassee)

Marianna

Pensacola Catholic

South Walton (Santa Rosa Beach)

Walton (DeFuniak Springs)

 

District 2

(5 Schools)

Andrew Jackson (Jacksonville)

Bolles (Jacksonville)

Duval Charter (Jacksonville)

Episcopal (Jacksonville)

Fernandina Beach

 

District 3

(6 Schools)

Bradford (Starke)

Interlachen

Keystone Heights

Trinity Catholic (Ocala)

Umatilla

Villages

 

District 4

(5 Schools)

Cocoa

Father Lopez (Daytona Beach)

Lake Highland Prep (Orlando)

Melbourne Central Catholic

Trinity Prep (Winter Park)

 

Region II – South

 

District 5

(4 Schools)

Berkeley Prep (Tampa)

Cardinal Mooney (Sarasota)

Clearwater Central Catholic

Tampa Catholic

 

District 6

(4 Schools)

Bishop Verot (Fort Myers)

Clewiston

Gateway Charter (Fort Myers)

Lake Placid

 

District 7

(4 schools)

American Heritage (Delray Beach)

Cardinal Newman (West Palm Beach)

Oxbridge Academy (West Palm Beach)

St. John Paul II (West Palm Beach)

 

District 8

(6 schools)

Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood)

Everglades Prep (Miami)

Miami Edison

Monsignor Pace (Homestead)

University School (Fort Lauderdale)

Westminster Christian (Miami)

 

Class 2A

(40 Schools)

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 1-469

 

Region I – North

 

District 1

(4 Schools)

FAMU (Tallahassee)

Maclay (Tallahassee)

North Florida Christian (Tallahassee)

P.K. Yonge (Gainesville)

 

District 2

(6 Schools)

Cedar Creek Christian (Jacksonville)

Eagle's View (Jacksonville)

Harvest Community (Jacksonville)

Providence (Jacksonville)

Trinity Christian (Jacksonville)

University Christian (Jacksonville)

 

District 3

(3 Schools)

Halifax (Daytona Beach)

Trinity Christian (Deltona)

Warner Christian (South Daytona)

 

District 4

(5 Schools)

Cornerstone Charter (Belle Isle)

First Academy (Orlando)

Foundation Academy (Winter Garden)

Holy Trinity (Melbourne)

John Carroll (Fort Pierce)

 

Region II – South

 

District 5

(5 Schools)

Cambridge (Tampa)

Carrollwood (Tampa)

Lakeland Christian

Seffner Christian

Victory Christian (Lakeland)

 

District 6

(5 Schools)

Admiral Farragut (St. Petersburg)

Calvary Christian (Clearwater)

Indian Rocks Christian (Largo)

Northside Christian (St. Petersburg)

St. Petersburg Catholic

 

District 7

(7 Schools)

Community School (Naples)

Evangelical Christian (Fort Myers)

First Baptist (Naples)

Marco Island Academy

Moore Haven

St. John Neumann (Naples)

Southwest Florida Christian (Fort Myers)

 

District 8

(5 Schools)

Champagnat (Hialeah)

Dade Christian (Miami)

International School of Broward (Hollywood)

Somerset Charter (Silver Palms)

Village Academy (Delray Beach)

 

Class 1A

(40 Schools)

Fall 2015 Student Enrollment 1-665

 

Region I – North (West)

 

District 1

(4 Schools)

Baker

Freeport

Jay

Northview (Bratt)

 

District 2

(4 Schools)

Cottondale

Graceville

Sneads

Wewahitchka

 

District 3

(4 Schools)

Bozeman (Panama City)

Chipley

Holmes County (Bonifay)

Vernon

 

District 4

(5 Schools)

Blountstown

Franklin County (Eastpoint)

Liberty County (Bristol)

Port St. Joe

West Gadsden (Greensboro)

 

Region II – South (East)

 

District 5

(6 Schools)

Branford

Hamilton County (Jasper)

Jefferson County (Monticello)

Lafayette (Mayo)

Madison County (Madison)

Taylor County (Perry)

 

District 6

(6 Schools)

Baldwin

Fort White

Hawthorne

Hilliard

Newberry

Union County (Lake Butler)

 

District 7

(6 Schools)

Bell

Bronson

Chiefland

Dixie County (Cross City)

Trenton

Williston

 

District 8

(5 Schools)

Crescent City

Fort Meade

Frostproof

Pahokee

Taylor (Pierson)

You really thought this through Josh lmao.... But that's some crazy districts there....

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I like the thought of keeping districts in play along with the point system. If you win your district your in the playoffs point blank. The rest of the playoffs teams are decided using the point system. I think this would allow everyone invoveld to see exactly how the point system would play out. Your gonna see rematches no matter what format you use.

 

But looking at your proposed districts, class 6a region two you could see a playoff bracket that consisted of Armwood, Mainland, edgewater, Vierra, lake Gibson, and winter haven..... Talk about excitement.

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You really thought this through Josh lmao.... But that's some crazy districts there....

 

Thought it through and then some. Laid it out all on a mapping system. The thing is making sure you have done your research on this. Doing something like this made me respect what the FHSAA has done because its not easy.

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I like the thought of keeping districts in play along with the point system. If you win your district your in the playoffs point blank. The rest of the playoffs teams are decided using the point system. I think this would allow everyone invoveld to see exactly how the point system would play out. Your gonna see rematches no matter what format you use.

 

But looking at your proposed districts, class 6a region two you could see a playoff bracket that consisted of Armwood, Mainland, edgewater, Vierra, lake Gibson, and winter haven..... Talk about excitement.

welcome to the forum, its always great to see us getting new blood in this board

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Columbia Fan,

 

Think of the possibilities for a 2017 schedule

 

KOC-Dr. Phillips

1. at Valdosta (8A)

2. Buchholz (7A)

3. Lowndes (8A)

4. at Lincoln (7A)

5. Gainesville (6A)

6. at Madison County (1A)

7. OPEN

8. Niceville (6A)

9. Baker County (5A)

10. at Clay (6A)

11. at Suwannee (5A)

 

Only potential rematches would be Lincoln or Buchholz 

 

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Here's my dream schedule and don't ask why I picked these teams, I have My reasons

 

Koc: @Colquit county ga

1: Gainesville

2:@Valdosta

3: buchulz

4:@Camden county

5: @Ravenwood tn

6: bye

7: Trenton

8:@Niceville

9:Miami Northwestern

10:Carol city

11: @Suwannee

 

 

As I said I got a little creative but looks like a top schedule

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Here's my dream schedule and don't ask why I picked these teams, I have My reasons

 

Koc: @Colquit county ga

1: Gainesville

2:@Valdosta

3: buchulz

4:@Camden county

5: @Ravenwood tn

6: bye

7: Trenton

8:@Niceville

9:Miami Northwestern

10:Carol city

11: @Suwannee

 

 

As I said I got a little creative but looks like a top schedule

 

If you went to Colquitt that would count as one of your 10 games so you would have to remove one of the other games off the list or take Colquitt off.

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Here's my dream schedule and don't ask why I picked these teams, I have My reasons

 

Koc: @Colquit county ga

1: Gainesville

2:@Valdosta

3: buchulz

4:@Camden county

5: @Ravenwood tn

6: bye

7: Trenton

8:@Niceville

9:Miami Northwestern

10:Carol city

11: @Suwannee

 

 

As I said I got a little creative but looks like a top schedule

Man you have 2 dade schools at home back to back weeks... Btw the west just smoke Delray Atlantic 48-12 I belive and Carol City is up 21-0 on south dade....

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Man you have 2 dade schools at home back to back weeks... Btw the west just smoke Delray Atlantic 48-12 I belive and Carol City is up 21-0 on south dade....

Yeah, heard Carol City won 35-0 or something in that one...  Heard Northwestern Defense even put up 21 points!  No surprise in any of those.  

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Here's my dream schedule and don't ask why I picked these teams, I have My reasons

 

Koc: @Colquit county ga

1: Gainesville

2:@Valdosta

3: buchulz

4:@Camden county

5: @Ravenwood tn

6: bye

7: Trenton

8:@Niceville

9:Miami Northwestern

10:Carol city

11: @Suwannee

 

 

As I said I got a little creative but looks like a top schedule

LOL you dont want none of T-Town brother  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)

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