Metro/Suburban Plan voted on. PASSED

[Terrapin]

You know, they should divide the regions up and do championships like this:

 

Panhandle.

Central.

South Florida.

North Florida.

 

Then the best of the best play in a champion of Florida bracket to determine the best team in Florida.

[561_Fan]

2 hours ago, Jesse said:

Pahokee has to play trinity christian lmao

Were not gonna run from them. Just like we played Jon Beason and Chaminade and Sean Taylor (RIP) and Gulliver Prep. 

[561_Fan]

2 hours ago, Tigerskin said:

But if Pahokee gets back great they wil be able to cherry pick from a big county that other schools in rural counties don’t have that luxury

Pahokee and Glades Central are to far out West to attract transfers. We’ve always won with home grown kids. Both schools loose more kids to Glades Day (Belle Glade), then they attract. Wish we could get some OL to come in.

[Tigerskin]

2 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:

Seriously, we are worried that Pahokee is going to start picking up transfers? Glades Central is the closest school to Pahokee, they are 13.3 miles, and no kid is turning on Belle Glade for Pahokee (or vice versa). And if we are concerned, why are we not concerned that Union County is only 15.9 miles from Bradford. (Yes, school choice allows you to attend another district's schools if there is room).

No then don’t be scared if the metro schools might do the same thing we shouldn’t need this split for surburban , seriously you think Hamilton County Florida 14,500 ever has a chance against Pahokee in Palm Beach

[Tigerskin]

2 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

Pahokee and Glades Central are to far out West to attract transfers. We’ve always won with home grown kids. Both schools loose more kids to Glades Day (Belle Glade), then they attract. Wish we could get some OL to come in.

It’s not that your to far out west , just saying your still in a county with over 1 million people  were you have a chance and a true rural school has zero chance

[DisabledAccount]

3 minutes ago, Tigerskin said:

No then don’t be scared if the metro schools might do the same thing we shouldn’t need this split for surburban , seriously you think Hamilton County Florida 14,500 ever has a chance against Pahokee in Palm Beach

Hamilton County not having any stability as a program or school is why they can't even compete in 1a 

 

There's a lot of problems over at that school just from the little that has hit the news wire in the past few years 

[Tigerskin]

8 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

Were not gonna run from them. Just like we played Jon Beason and Chaminade and Sean Taylor (RIP) and Gulliver Prep. 

I have a question how did y’all drop from either 3 or 4 A down to 1 A did a lot of kids leave the school.

[Tigerskin]

1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Hamilton County not having any stability as a program or school is why they can't even compete in 1a 

 

There's a lot of problems over at that school just from the little that has hit the news wire in the past few years 

I know they don’t have stability but if they did still have no we’re to look for transfers to compete with bigger counties

[DisabledAccount]

5 minutes ago, Tigerskin said:

It’s not that your to far out west , just saying your still in a county with over 1 million people  were you have a chance and a true rural school has zero chance

Have you ever actually been to Belle Glade before?

[DisabledAccount]

1 minute ago, Tigerskin said:

I know they don’t have stability but if they did still have no we’re to look for transfers to compete with bigger counties

Correct which is exactly why they are in 1A to begin with and 1A was built to try and keep schools like Hamilton from going independent

[DisabledAccount]

9 minutes ago, Tigerskin said:

I have a question how did y’all drop from either 3 or 4 A down to 1 A did a lot of kids leave the school.

You have to remember that even though 1A is listed as the smallest classification, 2a actually has the lowest cutoff for students 

 

1a requires rural designation and 3a cutoff is higher than 1a but also goes above 2a so some teams that were over the mark were in 3a such as Fort White and Madison County but once they got below 600 they went to 1a, same deal with pahokee

[Tigerskin]

8 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

You have to remember that even though 1A is listed as the smallest classification, 2a actually has the lowest cutoff for students 

 

1a requires rural designation and 3a cutoff is higher than 1a but also goes above 2a so some teams that were over the mark were in 3a such as Fort White and Madison County but once they got below 600 they went to 1a, same deal with pahokee

You do know the only reason they got to 1A is because the created a charter school which you don’t have to count the kids to your enrollment or they would be over the 600

[561_Fan]

16 minutes ago, Tigerskin said:

I have a question how did y’all drop from either 3 or 4 A down to 1 A did a lot of kids leave the school.

Pahokee is the smallest public school in Palm Beach County and probably in Broward and Dade countries. Comparable schools would be Cardinal Newman (Private), Kings Academy (private), Glades Day (private/refused to play), so we’ve always competed in 3A/2B. I guess travel/scheduling (money) made it easy. Pahokee has always competed with Pt. St. Joe, Ft. Meade, Frostproof, and Wildwoods. 
 

Don’t think Pahokee high has had a graduating class over 70 kids the past 30 years. 

[Tigerskin]

18 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Have you ever actually been to Belle Glade before?

Yes had family who lived down their once. 

[561_Fan]

If Pahokee has 600 kids, then 400 hundred are at the middle school. The high schools #s are low.

[561_Fan]

A lot of families have left the area for jobs (state prison and hospital shut down). Seminole Ridge, Royal Palm, Wellington, and Palm Beach Central have benefited from that. 2 kids went to IMG (Markevious Brown/Ole Miss and Knijeah Harris who may be one of the top OGs next year).

[Tigerskin]

19 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Correct which is exactly why they are in 1A to begin with and 1A was built to try and keep schools like Hamilton from going independent

Do you know anything about 1 A ? It was created because the small rural schools wanted to get away from 2 powerhouse private schools in Trinity Christian an University Christian nobody knew you would have former State Champs from 3A and 4A now drop down Union County, Madison County, Pahokee , Taylor County all won State in Bigger Classes .Also wasn’t Ft White once 3 A and their is rumors before this Metro/ Surburban that Suwannee County was wanting to create a charter school to drop dow to 1 A. So the small rural schools will have to go independent if things stay the same. You can take the 3 top schools I mentioned and add in Hawthorne who had like what 10 big time transfers and is in a county of 280,000 and you next 20 out 20 State Champs will come from that group of teams. So if you think that is fair then Lake City Columbia shouldn’t complain about the schools in the Metro .

[Jambun82]

6 hours ago, Ray Icaza said:

More blattering as somehow college scouts managed to find Derrick Henry in Yulee of all places.

"Find" Derrick Henry? Do you have any idea how known he was all of his years in high school, and how widespread the coverage was of him? Nobody needed to "find" him, he was very well-known. 

[Tigerskin]

19 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

If Pahokee has 600 kids, then 400 hundred are at the middle school. The high schools #s are low.

What were the numbers when you had Anquan Boldin ? Came to the State title game vs Bolles and that was a great team you had

[Ray Icaza]

16 minutes ago, Jambun82 said:

"Find" Derrick Henry? Do you have any idea how known he was all of his years in high school, and how widespread the coverage was of him? Nobody needed to "find" him, he was very well-known. 

Kinda like you in your profession.

[561_Fan]

15 minutes ago, Tigerskin said:

What were the numbers when you had Anquan Boldin ? Came to the State title game vs Bolles and that was a great team you had

About the same. Pahokee is a REALLY small school. There have never been over 400 high schoolers on the campus. The middle school kids are always the majority of the student population 

[Ray Icaza]

1 hour ago, 561_Fan said:

Pahokee and Glades Central are to far out West to attract transfers. We’ve always won with home grown kids. Both schools loose more kids to Glades Day (Belle Glade), then they attract. Wish we could get some OL to come in.

Some of these posters believing Pakokee is recruiting from the metro area just showing their ignorance. 

[561_Fan]

The city’s population is about 7,000

[DisabledAccount]

21 minutes ago, Tigerskin said:

Do you know anything about 1 A ? It was created because the small rural schools wanted to get away from 2 powerhouse private schools in Trinity Christian an University Christian nobody knew you would have former State Champs from 3A and 4A now drop down Union County, Madison County, Pahokee , Taylor County all won State in Bigger Classes .Also wasn’t Ft White once 3 A and their is rumors before this Metro/ Surburban that Suwannee County was wanting to create a charter school to drop dow to 1 A. So the small rural schools will have to go independent if things stay the same. You can take the 3 top schools I mentioned and add in Hawthorne who had like what 10 big time transfers and is in a county of 280,000 and you next 20 out 20 State Champs will come from that group of teams. So if you think that is fair then Lake City Columbia shouldn’t complain about the schools in the Metro .

Those privates are why they pushed for the change yes because several programs in 1a were ready to go independent (a few actually did) 

 

Suwannee isn't close enough to dropping to 1a even with a charter school 

 

Personally I think there are several reforms I would do to 1A because what we have currently isn't working

[DisabledAccount]

45 minutes ago, Tigerskin said:

You do know the only reason they got to 1A is because the created a charter school which you don’t have to count the kids to your enrollment or they would be over the 600

Yeah I'm aware of the loophole they used and because unless the kid plays a sport at Madison they won't count towards the numbers 

 

And without 1a Madison would have been stuck in 3a with teams like TCA and chaminade the last few years which I'm sure they would have hated