All state top 25 preseason

[DisabledAccount]

Updated list after your last point about Bethune cookman

[DisabledAccount]

1:STA

2:Miami central

3:BTW

4:Mainland

5:AHP

6:Apopka

7:TCA

8:Deerfield beach

9:Cocoa

10:Osceola

11:Braden river

12:Dwyer

13:Columbus

14:Columbia

15:Lakeland

16:Madison

17:Carol city

18:Manatee

19:Bishop morre

20:Armwood

21:Trenton

22:University Christian

23: west Orange

24:northwestern

25:Dillard

 

Teams to consider:Boca,Southridge,Dr Phillips, Plant, NFC, viera, vanguard, pine Forrest, sandalwood, port st joe, wakulla, Ribault, Niceville, Navarre, trinity Catholic, Tampa Catholic, Vero beach,Miramar,FPC

[Cjm04]

Armwood has only lost to Central in recent memory.....But ok

[DisabledAccount]

Armwood has only lost to Central in recent memory.....But ok

Plant beat them 2 years ago if I read it right and then again I said it in bold predictions but if they do lose to vanguard in 3rd round I will look like a genius for being first one to make that pick, but still maybe they do go back to states and it shows I should have bumped them to like 15 but we shall see

[DisabledAccount]

No one gonna agree 100% on each other list but Thats what forum is for, to discuss our different opinions and why we came to that decision

[FLFB]

1:STA

2:Miami central

3:BTW

4:Mainland

5:AHP

6:Apopka

7:TCA

8:Deerfield beach

9:Cocoa

10:Osceola

11:Braden river

12:Dwyer

13:Columbus

14:Columbia

15:Lakeland

16:Madison

17:Carol city

18:Manatee

19:Bishop morre

20:Armwood

21:Trenton

22:University Christian

23: west Orange

24:northwestern

25:Dillard

 

Teams to consider:Boca,Southridge,Dr Phillips, Plant, NFC, viera, vanguard, pine Forrest, sandalwood, port st joe, wakulla, Ribault, Niceville, Navarre, trinity Catholic, Tampa Catholic, Vero beach,Miramar,FPC

No offense but this is pretty bad

 

Gonna throw mine together

[FLFB]

1. STA

2. Miami Central
3. AHP

4. TCA
5. BTW
6. Armwood

7. Carol City
8. Deerfield Beach
9. Mainland

10. Apopka

11. Southridge

12. Clearwater Central Catholic
13. Lakeland
14. Dwyer
15. Braden river
16. Dr Phillips
17. Bishop Moore
18. Tampa Jesuit
19. AHD
20. Columbus
21. Oxbridge Academy

22. Plant City
23. MNW
24. Bolles
25. Clearwater (my sleeper pick)


Teams to consider: Flanagan, Delray Atlantic, Plant, Jefferson, Cocoa, Coral gables, South Dade, Osceola, Manatee, Lake Brantley, West Orange, Mandarin, OC University, Raines, Viera, Columbia, Venice, Tampa Bay Tech, Miami Jackson, Chaminade (??? tbd), Vanguard, Dillard, Boyd Anderson (although not sure now with their HC uncertainty), Glades Central, Lincoln, Miramar, PB Gardens, Boca Raton

[Floridatech]

1. STA

2. Miami Central

3. AHP

4. TCA

5. BTW

6. Armwood

7. Carol City

8. Deerfield Beach

9. Mainland

10. Apopka

11. Southridge

12. Clearwater Central Catholic

13. Lakeland

14. Dwyer

15. Braden river

16. Dr Phillips

17. Bishop Moore

18. Tampa Jesuit

19. AHD

20. Columbus

21. Oxbridge Academy

22. Plant City

23. MNW

24. Bolles

25. Clearwater (my sleeper pick)

 

 

Teams to consider: Delray Atlantic, Plant, Jefferson, Cocoa, Coral gables, South Dade, Osceola, Lake Brantley, West Orange, Mandarin, OC University, Raines, Viera, Columbia, Venice, Tampa Bay Tech, Chaminade (???), Vanguard, Dillard, Boyd Anderson (although not sure now with their HC uncertainty), Glades Central, Lincoln

I can definitely live with this

[BrowardHandicapper]

1. STA

2. Miami Central

3. AHP

4. TCA

5. BTW

6. Armwood

7. Carol City

8. Deerfield Beach

9. Mainland

10. Apopka

11. Southridge

12. Clearwater Central Catholic

13. Lakeland

14. Dwyer

15. Braden river

16. Dr Phillips

17. Bishop Moore

18. Tampa Jesuit

19. AHD

20. Columbus

21. Oxbridge Academy

22. Plant City

23. MNW

24. Bolles

25. Clearwater (my sleeper pick)

 

 

Teams to consider: Delray Atlantic, Plant, Jefferson, Cocoa, Coral gables, South Dade, Osceola, Manatee, Lake Brantley, West Orange, Mandarin, OC University, Raines, Viera, Columbia, Venice, Tampa Bay Tech, Miami Jackson, Chaminade (???), Vanguard, Dillard, Boyd Anderson (although not sure now with their HC uncertainty), Glades Central, Lincoln

Good list.   I would get replace Delray Atlantic, Coral Gables, Raines and South Dade with Miramar, Flanagan, and Boca Raton and PB Gardens.

[FLFB]

Good list.   I would get replace Delray Atlantic, Coral Gables, Raines and South Dade with Miramar, Flanagan, and Boca Raton and PB Gardens.

forgot about PB gardens, looking forward to seeing what they do this year. You still high on Miramar and Flanagan this year? I feel they have lost a little too much. Also I don't get the hype over Boca Raton, they didn't really beat anybody of note last year or do anything special, did they get a bunch of transfers or something I am unaware of?

[Zoe Boy]

forgot about PB gardens, looking forward to seeing what they do this year. You still high on Miramar and Flanagan this year? I feel they have lost a little too much. Also I don't get the hype over Boca Raton, they didn't really beat anybody of note last year or do anything special, did they get a bunch of transfers or something I am unaware of?

But they also loaded up on some transfers too speaking about Flaningan ......

[DisabledAccount]

Flanagan is coming off winning state, can't just throw them aside

[FLFB]

But they also loaded up on some transfers too speaking about Flaningan ......

true, I actually forgot about them when I did my 8A ranking. They were in my mind fringe top 25. What are your thoughts on them?

[BrowardHandicapper]

forgot about PB gardens, looking forward to seeing what they do this year. You still high on Miramar and Flanagan this year? I feel they have lost a little too much. Also I don't get the hype over Boca Raton, they didn't really beat anybody of note last year or do anything special, did they get a bunch of transfers or something I am unaware of?

I am not that high on Flanagan and Miramar, but I could definitely see Flanagan/Miramar  upsetting a team like Deerfield Beach before Delray Atlantic could. For me Flanagan is probably knocking at the top 25 door.  Delray Atlantic took a huge hit also.  But you are right..Flanagan only  returns TWO starters from last years team, and have a JV QB  coming up (I heard Samuells III was basically only going to be playing DB this year).  Supposedly they are pretty stacked at WR including a transfer from Mater and Carol City.  Miramar still has  athletic depth and are sick of being in the passengers seat in that District of late.  Regarding Boca Raton, they are just one of those teams that is very well coached and plays consistent football.  They remind me a little of Cypress Bay a few years back. (Not the year they went to states).  Just one of those teams that good teams underestimate and wind up in dogfights with them.   They played Delray Atlantic tough twice last year and their best wins were versus PB Gardens twice and Pahokee.  I think Boca Raton could definitely win that District over Delray Atlantic in 2016.

South Dade is way down and Coral Gables is down.

[FLFB]

I am not that high on Flanagan and Miramar, but I could definitely see Flanagan/Miramar  upsetting a team like Deerfield Beach before Delray Atlantic could. For me Flanagan is probably knocking at the top 25 door.  Delray Atlantic took a huge hit also.  But you are right..Flanagan only  returns TWO starters from last years team, and have a JV QB  coming up (I heard Samuells III was basically only going to be playing DB this year).  Supposedly they are pretty stacked at WR including a transfer from Mater and Carol City.  Miramar still has  athletic depth and are sick of being in the passengers seat in that District of late.  Regarding Boca Raton, they are just one of those teams that is very well coached and plays consistent football.  They remind me a little of Cypress Bay a few years back. (Not the year they went to states).  Just one of those teams that good teams underestimate and wind up in dogfights with them.   They played Delray Atlantic tough twice last year and their best wins were versus PB Gardens twice and Pahokee.  I think Boca Raton could definitely win that District over Delray Atlantic in 2016.

South Dade is way down and Coral Gables is down.

I definitely agree a Flanagan/Miramar upset could happen, but I don't see it happening. Miramar has has been pretty consistent as to what you can expect from them post Cogdell I feel like, a decent team with some talent but can;t bring it all together (the matt strout fiasco certainly didn't help things), didn't they lose a few guys to BTW this offseason too?

 

I see what your saying about Boca, I'll throw them in the teams to consider list?

 

You think SD and CG will be that down? They have some talent returning if I can recall. They lose transfers?

[BrowardHandicapper]

I definitely agree a Flanagan/Miramar upset could happen, but I don't see it happening. Miramar has has been pretty consistent as to what you can expect from them post Cogdell I feel like, a decent team with some talent but can;t bring it all together (the matt strout fiasco certainly didn't help things), didn't they lose a few guys to BTW this offseason too?

 

I see what your saying about Boca, I'll throw them in the teams to consider list?

 

You think SD and CG will be that down? They have some talent returning if I can recall. They lose transfers?

Matt Strout was the curse to that program.  They have not been the same since he arrived.  Yeah, they lost transfers to BTW, Miami Central and possibly Jackson and Carol City.  Zoe Boy can probably confirm that.  

 

Here are a few of the Boca Raton Assistant Coaches (you may recognize a few):   http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/football/palm-beach/sfl-boca-raton-high-nfl-coaches-pictures-20140-001-photo.html

 

South Dade/Coral Gables were both very solid programs last year.  They both lost about 8 D1 players to graduation and each probably return a couple at most.  I did hear Coral Gables got a DB transfer from Columbus (Marlin Brooks) and a couple other good players but they won't be on the level they were last year.  If they are record-wise it is because 8A South is down or at least those Districts are.  South Dade will be average at best this year.  Zoe Boy should be able to confirm my thoughts on this when he reads it.

[Zoe Boy]

Matt Strout was the curse to that program. They have not been the same since he arrived. Yeah, they lost transfers to BTW, Miami Central and possibly Jackson and Carol City. Zoe Boy can probably confirm that.

 

Here are a few of the Boca Raton Assistant Coaches (you may recognize a few): http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/football/palm-beach/sfl-boca-raton-high-nfl-coaches-pictures-20140-001-photo.html

 

South Dade/Coral Gables were both very solid programs last year. They both lost about 8 D1 players to graduation and each probably return a couple at most. I did hear Coral Gables got a DB transfer from Columbus (Marlin Brooks) and a couple other good players but they won't be on the level they were last year. If they are record-wise it is because 8A South is down or at least those Districts are. South Dade will be average at best this year. Zoe Boy should be able to confirm my thoughts on this when he reads it.

Agree with all you say in this... 8A south will be down a bit... But to me it comes down to DFB and The Ridge leaning towards DFB.... With the Ridge they have all the talent in the world but it comes down to dline and oline... I would say they have more talent then MC but MC would still dominate them in the trenches.... Then your gonna have a solid Columbus squad then Miramar and Flannigan which I have Flannigan reaching the second rd...

Matt Strout was basically a devil coaching.. He screwed that program up... But Miramar is having the problems of keeping their players to stay put.. Plus you have Carol City rising back up so that county line battle is leaning towards Carol City again