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40 minutes ago, Dan in Daytona said:

Gainesville Buchholz  31  Lake City Columbia  14

Columbia has nowhere to go but up as far as I am concerned. I wanted to see Columbia get the victory but I knew Buccholz might be a little too much for the Tigers on opening night. Keep your heads up Columbia fans! You all have a great chance for redemption next week against TCA!

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6 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

Columbia has nowhere to go but up as far as I am concerned. I wanted to see Columbia get the victory but I knew Buccholz might be a little too much for the Tigers on opening night. Keep your heads up Columbia fans! You all have a great chance for redemption next week against TCA!

That’s gonna be another tough one , tigers have to wake up they can’t start the season 0-2 , especially with a uninspiring win vs swuannee a team they should have blew out. 
 

it’s a long season but you also don’t want to lose the confidence in your players so early on. 

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25 minutes ago, THIS_IS_DILLARD said:

That’s gonna be another tough one , tigers have to wake up they can’t start the season 0-2 , especially with a uninspiring win vs swuannee a team they should have blew out. 
 

it’s a long season but you also don’t want to lose the confidence in your players so early on. 

They play Union County next. TCA is at the end of September 

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I missed most of the first half, but from what I saw in the second half, the Columbia O-Line was having a very difficult time giving their QB time to set up and throw the ball.    The one time they did, the QB connected on a long bomb for a TD.  Other than that, I'm pretty sure #6 and #8 for the Bobcats spent more time in Columbia's backfield than Columbia's running backs did.  Speaking of Columbia's running backs, did they have any?  I know Columbia was trying to play catch-up in the second half, but I don't recall seeing a single running play (other than when the QB got flushed out of the pocket).  Did they try running the ball more in the first half?  In any event, and granted they were running downfield on a muddy field all second half, Buchholz's defense looked strong.  As did their O-line. 

The sequence with 4 minutes left in the game was bizarre.  Apparently, there was a disturbance out in the parking lot that resulting in the police using a taser.  (Do those things sound like gun fire from a distance?)   Somehow, the taser in the parking lot triggered a chain reaction, causing all the fans to leave the stadium and both teams to quickly leave the field.   Before leaving the field, however, all the Columbia players hit the dirt.   I haven't seen that many defenders lying on the ground at one time since the Florida/Miami game in 1971, when the Gators defense flopped to ground and gave up a meaningless TD at the end of the game in order to get the ball back one more time so that John Reaves could break Jim Plunkett's NCAA record for all-time passing yardage.  (Am I dating myself?).

Seriously, the saddest part of the night is when the announcers explained that the response from Columbia was practiced protocol in response to a shooting.   No politics here, but just terribly sad that players, coaches or fans have to worry about something like that happening on a Friday night at or near a high school football game. 

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1 hour ago, Perspective said:

I missed most of the first half, but from what I saw in the second half, the Columbia O-Line was having a very difficult time giving their QB time to set up and throw the ball.    The one time they did, the QB connected on a long bomb for a TD.  Other than that, I'm pretty sure #6 and #8 for the Bobcats spent more time in Columbia's backfield than Columbia's running backs did.  Speaking of Columbia's running backs, did they have any?  I know Columbia was trying to play catch-up in the second half, but I don't recall seeing a single running play (other than when the QB got flushed out of the pocket).  Did they try running the ball more in the first half?  In any event, and granted they were running downfield on a muddy field all second half, Buchholz's defense looked strong.  As did their O-line. 

The sequence with 4 minutes left in the game was bizarre.  Apparently, there was a disturbance out in the parking lot that resulting in the police using a taser.  (Do those things sound like gun fire from a distance?)   Somehow, the taser in the parking lot triggered a chain reaction, causing all the fans to leave the stadium and both teams to quickly leave the field.   Before leaving the field, however, all the Columbia players hit the dirt.   I haven't seen that many defenders lying on the ground at one time since the Florida/Miami game in 1971, when the Gators defense flopped to ground and gave up a meaningless TD at the end of the game in order to get the ball back one more time so that John Reaves could break Jim Plunkett's NCAA record for all-time passing yardage.  (Am I dating myself?).

Seriously, the saddest part of the night is when the announcers explained that the response from Columbia was practiced protocol in response to a shooting.   No politics here, but just terribly sad that players, coaches or fans have to worry about something like that happening on a Friday night at or near a high school football game. 

A Blast from the Past, the "Super Sophs"  John Reeves, Carlos Alvarez, and Mainland's own Touchdown Tommie Durrance (Another shameless "Homer" plug).

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5 hours ago, Jags904 said:

So a few questions:

(1) what happened with the taking out of Columbia’s QB? 

(2) how different do we think the game would be if it were dry outside with better field conditions?

(3) how do you look at the season prognosis of both programs?

1) I think that's because the umstead was the starter through the spring and much of the summer and I think the staff is willing to use him if they think it would provide a spark but the issue last night was the OL

 

2) I think that Columbia would have been more aggressive in the early going with setting up a passing game if the field conditions were better but overall based on what I saw with Buchholz they looked to have a strong DL and it likely doesn't change much 

 

3) I think Buchholz is similar to what they were last year when I saw them against Cardinal Gibbons, they are probably a top 25 team in Florida. Columbia has potential to be a top 25-50 team but they have a long ways to go to get there, they were missing a 3* WR and a starting OL still so maybe when they get back it will spark the offense but the biggest thing is Jefferson is a solid QB who can make plays but when you don't even have 2 seconds to make a throw you aren't gonna have a chance to make plays

The Columbia OL needs to play better than that if they want to beat the good teams on their schedule

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2 hours ago, Perspective said:

I missed most of the first half, but from what I saw in the second half, the Columbia O-Line was having a very difficult time giving their QB time to set up and throw the ball.    The one time they did, the QB connected on a long bomb for a TD.  Other than that, I'm pretty sure #6 and #8 for the Bobcats spent more time in Columbia's backfield than Columbia's running backs did.  Speaking of Columbia's running backs, did they have any?  I know Columbia was trying to play catch-up in the second half, but I don't recall seeing a single running play (other than when the QB got flushed out of the pocket).  Did they try running the ball more in the first half?  In any event, and granted they were running downfield on a muddy field all second half, Buchholz's defense looked strong.  As did their O-line. 

The sequence with 4 minutes left in the game was bizarre.  Apparently, there was a disturbance out in the parking lot that resulting in the police using a taser.  (Do those things sound like gun fire from a distance?)   Somehow, the taser in the parking lot triggered a chain reaction, causing all the fans to leave the stadium and both teams to quickly leave the field.   Before leaving the field, however, all the Columbia players hit the dirt.   I haven't seen that many defenders lying on the ground at one time since the Florida/Miami game in 1971, when the Gators defense flopped to ground and gave up a meaningless TD at the end of the game in order to get the ball back one more time so that John Reaves could break Jim Plunkett's NCAA record for all-time passing yardage.  (Am I dating myself?).

Seriously, the saddest part of the night is when the announcers explained that the response from Columbia was practiced protocol in response to a shooting.   No politics here, but just terribly sad that players, coaches or fans have to worry about something like that happening on a Friday night at or near a high school football game. 

Yeah Columbia ran the ball a bit in the first half but it didn't have much success because just as the OL couldn't protect Tyler that well they also didn't create many running lanes as they struggled to block the 2 gator commits on the DL

 

 

So to explain what happened towards the end of the game, apparently what happened is a fight broke out near the Buchholz locker room on the home side and a officer on site used a taser to break the fight up, it resulted in all the fans in that area running and the first thought by the sideline was that it was a potential shooter which prompted the response

 

It may have been an overreaction but it's better to be safe than sorry but yes that was the practiced protocol but I'm not sure how often it's practiced because being on the sideline the movement was so chaotic and messy considering some just ran towards the endzone and others dropped to the ground, fortunately the situation was handled quickly and we were able to finish the game but I don't think it was necessary as they could have ended the game right then and I honestly thought they would because at that point nothing was gonna change with the game and I tuned out of the game when that happened and was just looking forward to getting out of there 

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5 hours ago, Jags904 said:

So a few questions:

(1) what happened with the taking out of Columbia’s QB? 

(2) how different do we think the game would be if it were dry outside with better field conditions?

(3) how do you look at the season prognosis of both programs?

Gainesville Buchholz's defense overwhelmed Columbia's generic and unimaginative offense all night long. ColumboFan pointed out the poor field condition as a contributing factor. Both teams looked to have multiple D-1's  on defense. Also both being in the Suburban football brackets (Buchholz 4, LC 3) greatly increases their odds of being a future player in a run to a championship. (IMO) Metro 3 & 4 has more strength and competition.      

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6 hours ago, Jags904 said:

So a few questions:

(1) what happened with the taking out of Columbia’s QB? 

(2) how different do we think the game would be if it were dry outside with better field conditions?

(3) how do you look at the season prognosis of both programs?

1) As explained above by others, I think there is some loyalty being shown to a player. Even though he drove them down for a TD, he was aided by 45 yards of penalties. The TD pass looked ill-advised, but WR made a great catch. The INT TD return was also his fault and should have had it picked one play earlier when the ball spent to the slot receiver and the defender on the outside receiver jump the route. So Jefferson comes in as QB, I am not sure how good he really is. He reminds me of Tyler Murphy (UF/Boston College). Big framed QB, but I am not sure he has the touch or accuracy to be a really good QB (even at the high school level). Many of his passes looked like wounded ducks (could have just been the wetness).

2) Same result, BHS was the better team. They were bigger upfront and would have been able to run the ball more effectively without the rain. Honestly, CHS tried a lot of quick WR screens and passes as a response to the wet conditions, but quickly went away from it. They tried running it, but I don't think they have a running back that they have any confidence in. So a lot of QB off tackles.

3) My prediction for CHS was 6-3 with losses to Buchholz, Trinity Christian, and Deland and a district championship. I think they are still on track for that. If they lose to Union County this week or don't look good winning, I can see a lot of doubts creeping in. 

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