STA dipping into Tampa Bay?

[LakelandGator]

On 1/25/2023 at 11:54 AM, Ray Icaza said:

Again, facts are stubborn.  Your QB came from Ridge, you got other kids from Bartow, Kathleen and elsewhere.  Not here to criticize just to point out when one is blinded by bias. 

You are correct but I was addressing his BS concerning the kids from LGibson, because once again he has no clue what he's talking about.

[VeniceIndiansFootball]

45 minutes ago, LakelandGator said:

You are correct but I was addressing his BS concerning the kids from LGibson, because once again he has no clue what he's talking about.

The only person who has "no idea what they are talking about," is YOU. You deflect facts and resort to ad hominem and lies to prop up your argument that Lakeland received only 4 transfers in 2022. Acknowledgment of this is nothing short of pure ignorance. 

[VeniceIndiansFootball]

And if you haven't done so already, you can go ahead and block me, because I have absolutely nothing to gain from going back-and-forth with someone as willfully ignorant, petty, and dishonest as you. I never said anything disparaging about Lakeland, just pointed out that they received an eyebrow-raising number of transfers in 2022, but you went straight to disparaging our program and insulting my intelligence over a small error. Pure lunacy. 

[PinellasFB]

11 hours ago, VeniceIndiansFootball said:

And if you haven't done so already, you can go ahead and block me, because I have absolutely nothing to gain from going back-and-forth with someone as willfully ignorant, petty, and dishonest as you. I never said anything disparaging about Lakeland, just pointed out that they received an eyebrow-raising number of transfers in 2022, but you went straight to disparaging our program and insulting my intelligence over a small error. Pure lunacy. 

Lakeland would've been strong with or without transfers but anybody who thinks those transfers in didn't put them over the top in 2022 is just in their own alternate universe. Those guys that transferred into LHS were IMG level guys. 

[Perspective]

Here's my perspective: 

If you build up a program the right way -- the clean way -- to the point where kids want to be a part of your program, good for you.  Under those circumstances (difficult as they may be now under the existing rules), a coach ought to proudly exclaim "We welcomed in 15 transfers this past season -- kids that could have gone anywhere they wanted, but who chose to be part of our program.   And those kids made our team better.  Thankfully, our school is not at capacity, so we could take them in and they certainly helped turn our team into a state championship caliber team."   

On the other hand, if anyone affiliated with the school (the head coach, assistant coach, alum, supporter, "handler," etc.) is out there beating the bushes, approaching kids at 7 on 7 events, contacting parents of kids 100 miles away, or doing anything else to 'encourage' kids to transfer to their school, the individuals responsible for the actions deserve to be punished and the school should face penalties, including being ineligible for state championship series for a year or more. 

It's just that simple:  attracting transfers is OK; recruiting transfers is not. 

[Nulli Secundus]

19 minutes ago, Perspective said:

Here's my perspective: 

If you build up a program the right way -- the clean way -- to the point where kids want to be a part of your program, good for you.  Under those circumstances (difficult as they may be now under the existing rules), a coach ought to proudly exclaim "We welcomed in 15 transfers this past season -- kids that could have gone anywhere they wanted, but who chose to be part of our program.   And those kids made our team better.  Thankfully, our school is not at capacity, so we could take them in and they certainly helped turn our team into a state championship caliber team."   

On the other hand, if anyone affiliated with the school (the head coach, assistant coach, alum, supporter, "handler," etc.) is out there beating the bushes, approaching kids at 7 on 7 events, contacting parents of kids 100 miles away, or doing anything else to 'encourage' kids to transfer to their school, the individuals responsible for the actions deserve to be punished and the school should face penalties, including being ineligible for state championship series for a year or more. 

It's just that simple:  attracting transfers is OK; recruiting transfers is not. 

Surprised the FHSAA hasn't created their own version of a transfer portal for visibility and transparency since all parties involved are quick to leak info all over social media anyway.

[Ray Icaza]

1 hour ago, Perspective said:

Here's my perspective: 

If you build up a program the right way -- the clean way -- to the point where kids want to be a part of your program, good for you.  Under those circumstances (difficult as they may be now under the existing rules), a coach ought to proudly exclaim "We welcomed in 15 transfers this past season -- kids that could have gone anywhere they wanted, but who chose to be part of our program.   And those kids made our team better.  Thankfully, our school is not at capacity, so we could take them in and they certainly helped turn our team into a state championship caliber team."   

On the other hand, if anyone affiliated with the school (the head coach, assistant coach, alum, supporter, "handler," etc.) is out there beating the bushes, approaching kids at 7 on 7 events, contacting parents of kids 100 miles away, or doing anything else to 'encourage' kids to transfer to their school, the individuals responsible for the actions deserve to be punished and the school should face penalties, including being ineligible for state championship series for a year or more. 

It's just that simple:  attracting transfers is OK; recruiting transfers is not. 

That is simple and should be agreed upon by all.  What isn't so simple is not just knowing who committed the offense but proving it in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt.  That standard will continue to shield offenders. 

[Manatee Magic]

OK, so long has it been like this?  Was there ever a time when high school football was a local grassroots game?