Preseason outlook

[BrowardHandicapper]

We can put DFB wherever we want early on like usual.  The only sure thing  is they will lose soundly in their final post season  game of the season.  That said, to me it is hard to classify DFB as a elite FL team in recent years outside of a roster on paper.  They are not losing to elite FL teams when the $ is on the line,  they are getting pounded on the scoreboard.

DFB's last 5 post season season ending scores :

 

2016 =  7 - 26

2015 = 0 - 17

2013 = 6 - 43

2012 = 13 - 41

2011 = 3 - 24 

Combined = 29 -149 !

 

That is not a isolated score.  Five postseasons over 6 years is a established trend.  Fair?

 

 

[DarterBlue2]

1 minute ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

We can put DFB wherever we want early on like usual.  The only sure thing  is they will lose soundly in their final post season  game of the season.  That said, to me it is hard to classify DFB as a elite FL team in recent years outside of a roster on paper.  They are not losing to elite FL teams when the $ is on the line,  they are getting pounded on the scoreboard.

DFB's last 5 post season season ending scores :

 

2016 =  7 - 26

2015 = 0 - 17

2013 = 6 - 43

2012 = 13 - 41

2011 = 3 - 24 

 

 

It is unfortunate because I feel they are better than this. But for some reason, when it matters, they choke. Last year, Deerfield Beach vs Seminole would have been a very attractive 8A state final. 

[BrowardHandicapper]

7 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:

It is unfortunate because I feel they are better than this. But for some reason, when it matters, they choke. Last year, Deerfield Beach vs Seminole would have been a very attractive 8A state final. 

They choke in a sense of getting slaughtered but realistically they lost to flat out better teams.  

Southridge, Flanagan, Cypress Bay and the Miramar teams were just - better.  DFB could have kept the games closer though.  DFB was pretty beat up when they played Southridge last year particularly and I think 2016 was their chance to get to Orlando with a down 8A South.    

The Flanagan, Miramar, and Cypress Bay teams were on another level than DFB in those other years IMO.  Smothering Defenses by Flanagan and Miramar and those Cypress Bay offenses were  a machine (as Apopka knows  ) .

[Floridatech]

1 hour ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

We can put DFB wherever we want early on like usual.  The only sure thing  is they will lose soundly in their final post season  game of the season.  That said, to me it is hard to classify DFB as a elite FL team in recent years outside of a roster on paper.  They are not losing to elite FL teams when the $ is on the line,  they are getting pounded on the scoreboard.

DFB's last 5 post season season ending scores :

 

2016 =  7 - 26

2015 = 0 - 17

2013 = 6 - 43

2012 = 13 - 41

2011 = 3 - 24 

Combined = 29 -149 !

 

That is not a isolated score.  Five postseasons over 6 years is a established trend.  Fair?

 

 

Vero Beach/Coach J playoff history:

East Lake 41-22

East Lake 29-7

Manatee 34-28

Manatee 47-28

Osceola 42-35 almost 49-35

Dr Philips 34-24 

Vero has tied the state for second most loses on the road in the playoffs...

[DisabledAccount]

3 minutes ago, Floridatechfootball said:

Vero Beach/Coach J playoff history:

East Lake 41-22

East Lake 29-7

Manatee 34-28

Manatee 47-28

Osceola 42-35 almost 49-35

Dr Philips 34-24 

Vero has tied the state for second most loses on the road in the playoffs...

Maybe you all should schedule cocoa or mainland  in the regular season 

 

Heck even Dr Phillips, Osceola or even apopka could be other matchups that might come in handy to gain experience 

 

When Vero was great it was when they played powerhouses 

[Floridatech]

5 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Maybe you all should schedule cocoa or mainland  in the regular season 

 

Heck even Dr Phillips, Osceola or even apopka could be other matchups that might come in handy to gain experience 

 

When Vero was great it was when they played powerhouses 

Tru but we'll see what this year schedule does for em

[954gator]

9 hours ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

We can put DFB wherever we want early on like usual.  The only sure thing  is they will lose soundly in their final post season  game of the season.  That said, to me it is hard to classify DFB as a elite FL team in recent years outside of a roster on paper.  They are not losing to elite FL teams when the $ is on the line,  they are getting pounded on the scoreboard.

DFB's last 5 post season season ending scores :

 

2016 =  7 - 26

2015 = 0 - 17

2013 = 6 - 43

2012 = 13 - 41

2011 = 3 - 24 

Combined = 29 -149 !

 

That is not a isolated score.  Five postseasons over 6 years is a established trend.  Fair?

 

 

I think last year's score isn't really showing how close that game was.   DFB was up at the start of the 4th quarter and yes they blew the game with big turnovers.   They were in that game though.  In fact I think they fumbled the ball or got stuffed at the 1 yard line early where they might have gone up 14-0.   2015 they definitely were outclassed and before that they just weren't as good IMO.   

DFB's best team in my opinion was in 2007.  They beat state champ STA and were a couple seconds away from taking down one of the best FL teams ever (MNW).   I'd love to see a replay of that game. 

[954gator]

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2007-12-08/sports/nw08_1_deerfield-beach-miami-northwestern-orange-bowl

If anyone can find video of this game please post it!

[BrowardHandicapper]

1 hour ago, 954gator said:

I think last year's score isn't really showing how close that game was.   DFB was up at the start of the 4th quarter and yes they blew the game with big turnovers.   They were in that game though.  In fact I think they fumbled the ball or got stuffed at the 1 yard line early where they might have gone up 14-0.   2015 they definitely were outclassed and before that they just weren't as good IMO.   

DFB's best team in my opinion was in 2007.  They beat state champ STA and were a couple seconds away from taking down one of the best FL teams ever (MNW).   I'd love to see a replay of that game. 

I would agree with that for the most part....  DFB was indeed outscored in that game 20- in the 4th qtr.  But keep in mind Deerfield Beach's only TD was on a fumble return  in the first quarter.  

Southridge had SIX turnovers in that game and DFB could only muster 7 total points.  Southridge fumbled 5 times and lost all 5 in that game, and also got picked once and only  total 7pts off all of that  DFB.

DFB did not fumble in the game but got picked twice , one being a 96 yard INT return in the 4th qtr.  

Overall, if you are a +4 on takeaways in a game and only muster 7 pts , and lose 7-26  - not good.

 

DFB got banged up a bit in the previous 2 weeks and had some tragic stuff happen off the field going into that game.  I believe that game may have been a different final score if DFB goes in healthy. 

[DisabledAccount]

17 minutes ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

I would agree with that for the most part....  DFB was indeed outscored in that game 20- in the 4th qtr.  But keep in mind Deerfield Beach's only TD was on a fumble return  in the first quarter.  

Southridge had SIX turnovers in that game and DFB could only muster 7 total points.  Southridge fumbled 5 times and lost all 5 in that game, and also got picked once and only  total 7pts off all of that  DFB.

DFB did not fumble in the game but got picked twice , one being a 96 yard INT return in the 4th qtr.  

Overall, if you are a +4 on takeaways in a game and only muster 7 pts , and lose 7-26  - not good.

 

DFB got banged up a bit in the previous 2 weeks and had some tragic stuff happen off the field going into that game.  I believe that game may have been a different final score if DFB goes in healthy. 

Which you think is better in 2017 

 

Deerfield or Southridge and by how big a margin? 

[BrowardHandicapper]

14 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Which you think is better in 2017 

 

Deerfield or Southridge and by how big a margin? 

I am going to give a lean to Southridge in late July....  To me DFB may match or even have more SFL  8A "Varsity" level depth than Southridge, but I give the edge in starters to Southridge.  I am fairly confident Southridge has not slipped to much from 2016, but I simply can't say the same about DFB - particularly offensively.  DFB 2015 and 2016 WR core were both very, very talented.  I know they have a talented McDougle coming up but I just don't see the depth or overall skill set returning at WR.   Then again, I have a hunch their roster is going to look a lot more polished then what I anticipate.

[Zoe Boy]

11 hours ago, 954gator said:

I think last year's score isn't really showing how close that game was.   DFB was up at the start of the 4th quarter and yes they blew the game with big turnovers.   They were in that game though.  In fact I think they fumbled the ball or got stuffed at the 1 yard line early where they might have gone up 14-0.   2015 they definitely were outclassed and before that they just weren't as good IMO.   

DFB's best team in my opinion was in 2007.  They beat state champ STA and were a couple seconds away from taking down one of the best FL teams ever (MNW).   I'd love to see a replay of that game. 

I was at that orange bowl game too.. It was unreal!! 

[954gator]

8 hours ago, Zoe Boy said:

I was at that orange bowl game too.. It was unreal!! 

Nice, we need to find some clips of that game. I remember seeing some a while back, but it seems a lot of content on the internet from those times have disappeared.

[“PANTHER NATION(CODE BLUE)]

On 7/30/2017 at 1:32 AM, BrowardHandicapper said:

I am going to give a lean to Southridge in late July....  To me DFB may match or even have more SFL  8A "Varsity" level depth than Southridge, but I give the edge in starters to Southridge.  I am fairly confident Southridge has not slipped to much from 2016, but I simply can't say the same about DFB - particularly offensively.  DFB 2015 and 2016 WR core were both very, very talented.  I know they have a talented McDougle coming up but I just don't see the depth or overall skill set returning at WR.   Then again, I have a hunch their roster is going to look a lot more polished then what I anticipate.

On paper who do u think is better 2017 DFB or dillard

[BrowardHandicapper]

On paper from what I know for starters I would say Dillard offensively and DFB defensively.

[“PANTHER NATION(CODE BLUE)]

8 minutes ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

On paper from what I know for starters I would say Dillard offensively and DFB defensively.

That's fair for what what we know about each team right now should be a great game when we play them 

 

But first STA for KOC again 

[BrowardHandicapper]

The parts are in place for a great Dillard team. Like I said...  Might be one of the best Dillard offenses we have see in a while.  We'll see what happens...

[DisabledAccount]

Now without further adieu here is the preseason top 100 for Florida that I've been working on since May

 

1 STA  (-)  7A

2 Miami Northwestern (-) 6A

3 Miami Central (-)  6A

4 Miami Carol City (-) 6A

5 American Heritage Plantation (-) 5A

6 Chaminade-Madonna  (-) 3A

7 Atlantic Delray (-) 8A

8 Miami Southridge (-) 8A

9 Cocoa (-) 4A

10 Apopka (-) 8A

11 Jax Trinity Christian (-) 5A

12 Mainland (-) 6A

13 Cardinal Gibbons (-) 5A

14 Miami Booker T Washington (-) 4A

15 Lake Gibson (-) 6A

16 Dr Phillips (-) 8A 

17 Miramar (-) 8A

18 Lakeland (-) 7A 

19 Armwood (-) 6A

20 Vero Beach (-) 8A

21 Deerfield Beach (-) 8A

22 Oxbridge Academy (-) 3A

23 Plant (-) 7A

24 Miami Senior (-) 8A

25 Miami Norland (-) 6A

26 Osceola (-) 8A

27 Orange City University (-) 8A

28 Niceville (-) 6A

29 Vanguard (-) 6A

30 Venice (-) 7A

31 Columbus (-) 8A

32  Ponte vedra (-) 5A

33 Dillard (-) 6A

34 Champagnat (-) 2A

35 Robert E Lee (-) 7A

36 Bartram Trail (-) 7A

37 Columbia (-) 7A

38 Viera (-) 7A

39 Melbourne Central Catholic (-) 3A

40 Braden River (-) 7A

41 Palm Beach Gardens (-) 8A

42 Coral Gables (-) 8A
 
43 Raines (-) 4A

44 Sandalwood (-) 8A

45 Buchholz (-) 7A

46 Park Vista (-) 8A

47 Madison County (-) 1A

48 West Florida (-) 5A

49 Western (-) 8A

50 Doral Academy (-) 7A

51 Jones (-) 5A

52 Clearwater Central Catholic (-) 3A

53 Sanford Seminole (-) 8A

54 Trinity Catholic (-) 3A

55 Tampa Catholic (-) 3A

56 St Augustine (-) 6A 

57 Rickards (-) 5A

58 Mater Academy (-) 7A

59 Ely (-) 5A

60 Glades Central (-) 4A

61 University School (-) 4A

62 Bishop Moore (-) 5A

63 AHD (-) 3A

64 Baker County (-) 5A

65 Bolles(-) 5A

66 Manatee (-) 8A

67 Gulf Breeze (-) 6A

68 Escambia (-) 6A

69 Dwyer (-) 7A

70 Lake Brantley(-) 8A

71 Pahokee (-) 1A

72 Gainesville (-) 6A

73 Clay(-) 5A

74 Trenton (-) 4A

75 Tampa Bay Tech (-) 7A

76 Boynton beach (-) 6A

77 Chiles (-) 7A

78 Tate(-) 6A

79 Jesuit (-) 5A

80 Lincoln (-) 7A

81 University Christian (-) 2A

82 Crestview (-) 6A

83 Naples (-) 6A

84 Pace (-) 6A

85 Stoneman Douglas (-) 8A

86 Wakulla (-) 5A

87 North Miami Beach (-) 8A

88 Tampa Jefferson (-) 5A

89 Cambridge Christian (-) 2A

90 Hillsborough (-) 6A

91 Ribault  (-) 5A

92 South Sumter (-) 4A

93 Piper  (-) 7A

94 South Broward (-) 7A

95 Palm Beach Central (-) 8A

96 Fletcher (-) 7A

97 North Florida Christian (-) 2A

98 Hamilton County (-) 1A

99 Godby (-) 5A

100 Suwannee (-) 5A

[BrowardHandicapper]

2017 8A PB County Pre-Season

8A-10

Atlantic

Park Vista

Boca Raton

Spanish River
Lake Worth
Leonard
Santaluces

8A-9

PB Gardens
PB Central

Wellington
Seminole Ridge

Jupiter

 

 

PB 8A-9/10 Combined

Atlantic (8A-10)

Park Vista (8A-10)
PB Gardens (8A-9)
PB Central (8A-9)

Wellington (8A-9)
Boca Raton (8A-10)
Seminole Ridge (8A-9)

Spanish River (8A-10)
Lake Worth (8A-10)
Jupiter (8A-9)
Leonard (8A-10)
Santaluces (8A-10)

[BrowardHandicapper]

PB 7A-13

Dwyer
PB Lakes
Olympic Heights

Forest Hill
West Boca
Royal Palm Beach

[BrowardHandicapper]

6A-15

Dillard
Boynton Beach

Boyd Anderson
Archbishop McCarthy

Northeast
 

[BrowardHandicapper]

PB 5A-15

Suncoast

John Carroll
Westwood

Port St. Lucie
Pompano Beach

[BrowardHandicapper]

4A-Region 4

Booker T. Washington

University School
Glades Central
Miami Edison
Monsignor Pace
Pine Crest 

North Broward Prep
Key West
Gulliver Prep
Keys Gate
Lasalle Academy
Coral Springs Charter

Somerset Academy

[BrowardHandicapper]

3A-Region 2

Oxbridge Academy
Melbourne Central Catholic

Cardinal Newman
First Academy
Kings Academy

Holy Trinity Episcopal

Trinity Prep

Taylor
Father Lopez

 

 

 

3A-Region 4

Chaminade-Madonna 

 

American Heritage Delray

Benjamin
Calvary Christian

Westminster Christian
St. John Paul Academy
St. Andrews
Westminster Academy
Everglades Prep Academy
Somerset Academy Silver Palms

Palm Glades Prep Academy
Palmer Trinity
Pinecrest Prep

 

 

 

 

3A-Region 2/4 Combined

Chaminade-Madonna (3A-4)

 

Oxbridge Academy (3A-2)
Melbourne Central Catholic (3A-2)

American Heritage Delray (3A-4)

Cardinal Newman (3A-2)
Benjamin (3A-4)
First Academy (3A-2)
Kings Academy (3A-2)
Calvary Christian (3A-4)

Westminster Christian (3A-4)
Holy Trinity Episcopal (3A-2)
St. John Paul Academy (3A-4)
St. Andrews (3A-4)
Westminster Academy (3A-4)
Everglades Prep Academy (3A-4)
Somerset Academy Silver Palms (3A-4)
Trinity Prep (3A-2)

Taylor (3A-2)
Father Lopez (3A-2)

Palm Glades Prep Academy (3A-4)
Palmer Trinity (3A-4)
Pinecrest Prep (3A-4)

[DisabledAccount]

@BrowardHandicapper

 

I'm not sure how high you would rank them but Fort White in 3a region 2 if i recall correctly