Glades Central/Bishop Verot incident

[561_Fan]

During the game, a GC player went down with cramps and on the BV game stream. One of the commentators made a comment about “monkeys don’t get cramps, and give them some bananas.” Don’t know if the commentator was being racist or joking, but the comment was extremely inappropriate. The clip has been shared a lot on social media, but that was a weird comment 

[JDHoss]

Wholly shite....

[Jullian]

28 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

During the game, a GC player went down with cramps and on the BV game stream. One of the commentators made a comment about “monkeys don’t get cramps, and give them some bananas.” Don’t know if the commentator was being racist or joking, but the comment was extremely inappropriate. The clip has been shared a lot on social media, but that was a weird comment 

SMH! People allowed to be stupid in their home if that’s your ignorant flavor but not in public………

[muckboy561]

52 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

During the game, a GC player went down with cramps and on the BV game stream. One of the commentators made a comment about “monkeys don’t get cramps, and give them some bananas.” Don’t know if the commentator was being racist or joking, but the comment was extremely inappropriate. The clip has been shared a lot on social media, but that was a weird comment 

Smh I agree I heard it 

[Cat_Scratch]

Some people are idiots. After he said it I hope he realized how freakin stupid a comment it was.

[561_Fan]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B5VGFiAPG/?mibextid=UalRPS

 

here’s the clip 

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

9 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B5VGFiAPG/?mibextid=UalRPS

 

here’s the clip 

Election ain’t even been over a week & fools like him feeling real brave (publicly) on top of that 

[muckboy561]

2 hours ago, 561_Fan said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B5VGFiAPG/?mibextid=UalRPS

 

here’s the clip 

Dang I don't have FB lol

[Longtime Observer]

It seems possible they were talking about the best food/way to avoid cramps, as pickles were mentioned at the top. Then bananas were mentioned, and the talk of an animal that is known for loving bananas was brought up. 

*Make no mistake, for the great many who are utterly addicted to outrage, and are perversely obsessed with race, you have something to feed your desires here. 

[561_Fan]

14 hours ago, Longtime Observer said:

It seems possible they were talking about the best food/way to avoid cramps, as pickles were mentioned at the top. Then bananas were mentioned, and the talk of an animal that is known for loving bananas was brought up. 

*Make no mistake, for the great many who are utterly addicted to outrage, and are perversely obsessed with race, you have something to feed your desires here. 

Like I said it may not have been racially motivated, but it was an inappropriate for the time/circumstances 

[Longtime Observer]

11 hours ago, 561_Fan said:

Like I said it may not have been racially motivated, but it was an inappropriate for the time/circumstances 

But, in this case, OUTRAGE is unwarranted. Yours is a minor concern. 

[Longtime Observer]

Of course, when you are addicted to outrage, you can't let any opportunity to be outraged slip away.

[DarterBlue2]

On 11/8/2024 at 10:09 PM, Longtime Observer said:

It seems possible they were talking about the best food/way to avoid cramps, as pickles were mentioned at the top. Then bananas were mentioned, and the talk of an animal that is known for loving bananas was brought up. 

*Make no mistake, for the great many who are utterly addicted to outrage, and are perversely obsessed with race, you have something to feed your desires here. 

While your first paragraph is technically correct, I am concerned as to why one of the commentators inserted the word monkey in relation to a discussion of why cramps can be alleviated by the use of pickle juice and bananas. Monkeys may or may not be subject to cramps (I don't know), but the fact that it was a Glades Central player, not a Bishop Verot player that had cramped up, really concerns me given the use of the monkey reference.

Sadly, the USA is in a "tinderbox situation" right now. We can choose to ignite it or we can choose a better, more peaceful path.    

The coming months and years will determine the road that the country goes down.  For better or worse, the USA is a very heterogeneous country. We can choose to get along or we can choose to destroy each other from within. I am sure the country's enemies would love the latter. 

Enough said, PEACE!

[Perspective]

I can see both sides of this one.   Bottom line:  commentators needed to have a little more contextual awareness. 

That said, and having read many of the above comments before watching the clip, here's the way I heard the discussion:

Commentator 1:  There is a player on the field who seems to have a cramp.   Coincidentally (or not), the referees have called for a water break.  

Commentator 2:  Well, a water break won't help the dude who has a cramp. [As an aside, this is pretty well accepted science . . . the hydration needed to be before the game, if not the day/night before the game.]

Commentator continues:  He needs (or needed) pickle juice or bananas.   [Again, as an aside, I think pickle juice is generally believed to provide immediate relief for cramps.  I know I brought my share of pickle juice to 7 on 7 tournaments when my boys were playing.  On the other hand, I don't know if there is a consensus on bananas.  My understanding is that bananas are a great source of potassium, which can help prevent cramps, but I don't know if they can put a stop to cramping once the cramping begins.  But bananas are routinely provided to athletes in advance of competition and to runners before and during a long race.  OK, back to the exchange:]

Commentator [not sure which one, and playing on the common knowledge that bananas are a staple of the monkey/chimpanzee, ape diet] Well, you don't see monkeys getting cramps, now do you?  [As if to suggest that if the cramping player had consumed enough bananas before the game, he wouldn't be cramping either.]

The commentators then proceed to have a discussion about whether monkeys ever really do get cramps.  One of the commentators seemingly cites his wife as an authority on the subject and concludes that monkeys occasionally do get cramps. 

I'm old enough to remember when TV commentator Howard Cosell was fired after saying "look at that little monkey run!" Forget that he used to call his own grandkids "little monkeys," the concern was that he was comparing a black athlete to a monkey on national TV and for that, he lost his job. 

So, where do I land on this:  right where I started.  I don't necessarily see this as a racist exchange, but the commentators should have been more aware of the context in which they were making the statements.   Had the discussion taken place earlier in the game, as part of a larger discussion of healthy nutrition, and before an player of any race had started cramping, I don't think anyone would be saying anything.   But that's not what happened. 

 

 

[Ray Icaza]

9 minutes ago, Perspective said:

I can see both sides of this one.   Bottom line:  commentators needed to have a little more contextual awareness. 

That said, and having read many of the above comments before watching the clip, here's the way I heard the discussion:

Commentator 1:  There is a player on the field who seems to have a cramp.   Coincidentally (or not), the referees have called for a water break.  

Commentator 2:  Well, a water break won't help the dude who has a cramp. [As an aside, this is pretty well accepted science . . . the hydration needed to be before the game, if not the day/night before the game.]

Commentator continues:  He needs (or needed) pickle juice or bananas.   [Again, as an aside, I think pickle juice is generally believed to provide immediate relief for cramps.  I know I brought my share of pickle juice to 7 on 7 tournaments when my boys were playing.  On the other hand, I don't know if there is a consensus on bananas.  My understanding is that bananas are a great source of potassium, which can help prevent cramps, but I don't know if they can put a stop to cramping once the cramping begins.  But bananas are routinely provided to athletes in advance of competition and to runners before and during a long race.  OK, back to the exchange:]

Commentator [not sure which one, and playing on the common knowledge that bananas are a staple of the monkey/chimpanzee, ape diet] Well, you don't see monkeys getting cramps, now do you?  [As if to suggest that if the cramping player had consumed enough bananas before the game, he wouldn't be cramping either.]

The commentators then proceed to have a discussion about whether monkeys ever really do get cramps.  One of the commentators seemingly cites his wife as an authority on the subject and concludes that monkeys occasionally do get cramps. 

I'm old enough to remember when TV commentator Howard Cosell was fired after saying "look at that little monkey run!" Forget that he used to call his own grandkids "little monkeys," the concern was that he was comparing a black athlete to a monkey on national TV and for that, he lost his job. 

So, where do I land on this:  right where I started.  I don't necessarily see this as a racist exchange, but the commentators should have been more aware of the context in which they were making the statements.   Had the discussion taken place earlier in the game, as part of a larger discussion of healthy nutrition, and before an player of any race had started cramping, I don't think anyone would be saying anything.   But that's not what happened. 

 

 

Funny, I always referred to my children as monkeys and did as well with my grandkids with no racial significance to the term.  We simply have gone off the rails looking for stuff that was never meant to demean.  The missing element, Common Sense.  

[561_Fan]

My level of outrage regarding this incident is a 2/3 because I don’t know the context of what the commentator is trying to use, but this is a “Read the room,” situation here.

Some historical facts about the GREAT USA…Caucasian-Americans have referred to African-Americans as “monkeys” in a derogatory manner. So, referring to your children/grand-children as “monkeys” is one thing, but not the same as it being to describe a group of people in a negative way. 
 

So like I said, I don’t know if it was racist, but it was stupid to leave it for interpretation, considering what the term “monkey” being directed towards African-Americans has meant in this country. I’ve never heard a commentator mention “monkey or bananas” when kids of other races have been cramping 

[Ray Icaza]

3 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

My level of outrage regarding this incident is a 2/3 because I don’t know the context of what the commentator is trying to use, but this is a “Read the room,” situation here.

Some historical facts about the GREAT USA…Caucasian-Americans have referred to African-Americans as “monkeys” in a derogatory manner. So, referring to your children/grand-children as “monkeys” is one thing, but not the same as it being to describe a group of people in a negative way. 
 

So like I said, I don’t know if it was racist, but it was stupid to leave it for interpretation, considering what the term “monkey” being directed towards African-Americans has meant in this country. I’ve never heard a commentator mention “monkey or bananas” when kids of other races have been cramping 

Sorry, I forgot some of you have a crystal ball to "READ the ROOM"!  No doubt it was probably a poor choice of words but would gets to decide intent. 

[561_Fan]

16 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

Sorry, I forgot some of you have a crystal ball to "READ the ROOM"!  No doubt it was probably a poor choice of words but would gets to decide intent. 

Forgot some of you can’t comprehend. My initial post said I didn’t know if it was racist, but very inappropriate. I always forget that America has treated all of it’s citizens EQUALLY and that some people just overreact and make up things out of thin air 

[Ray Icaza]

20 minutes ago, 561_Fan said:

Forgot some of you can’t comprehend. My initial post said I didn’t know if it was racist, but very inappropriate. I always forget that America has treated all of it’s citizens EQUALLY and that some people just overreact and make up things out of thin air 

No country is perfect when it comes to equality, but people are leaving their homeland in droves (over 100 countries by last count) to make their way here for a reason.  I am hispanic and in our culture we have inequality based on class in most nations rather than race.  These are all human failings and though racism does exist, that sin isn't limited to one skin color.  We should all strive to find the best in each other rather than accentuating the bad.