Miami Northwestern

[h8r]

18 hours ago, Jullian said:

I’ve joked thruout the season that all laws & rules apply to the entire state, not us from South Florida. I said that because us down in So Flo KNOW rules are stretched & broken. When the FHSAA took 2 games away from Western & 1 from Norland because of Rules Violations, shots were fired. When they took the entire season away from Central because of the use of an ineligible player for the entire season, a LOUD & clear statement was made by the FHSAA down here in So Flo. 
Cheating & breaking rules aren’t going to be tolerated. The OUTCRY from the team’s & neighborhoods SHOULD, but WON’T BE, we broke the rules & their are consequences. Being ethical & upright will be buried with typical & all too familiar shouts of injustice etc….

It’s a SHAME we just can’t do the right thing & run our football programs according to the by laws & rules…..

sad part is, has anyone in south florida EVER ran it according to the bylaws and rules!

[topnotch305]

Nope.. northwestern had a great day of practice yesterday and are getting ready for Lely. People I know close to the team haven't said anything. Usually if something is coming up like the central incident I would hear about it before it is made public.  Think this is a rumor but because of the serious allegation made I'll see if it holds any weight when I go to practice today. 

[topnotch305]

It's weird that the poster made his or her account yesterday just to make the post..... hmm...

[topnotch305]

And if this is about a player they were trying to tie NW into this Central stuff earlier I know that kid dad personally. He don't turn 19 until next year and had to provide 8 grade docs to prove that. This has Central written all over it. Crabs in a bucket smh. 

[DILLARDBOYZ954]

59 minutes ago, topnotch305 said:

Nope.. northwestern had a great day of practice yesterday and are getting ready for Lely. People I know close to the team haven't said anything. Usually if something is coming up like the central incident I would hear about it before it is made public.  Think this is a rumor but because of the serious allegation made I'll see if it holds any weight when I go to practice today. 

Innocent until proven guilty. If all this smoke and mirrors, just crown the west champs now cuz they running through the entire 3A. Yea Raines undefeated but MNW will expose that quick. 

[Jullian]

1 hour ago, h8r said:

sad part is, has anyone in south florida EVER ran it according to the bylaws and rules!

Touché 

[DarterBlue2]

2 hours ago, Jullian said:

I haven’t found any articles concerning this topic of Northwestern & the allegations that the SFLFBFan posted(his only & first post)? Anyone?

He's probably just stirring the pot ... 

[SFLFBFan]

Tick Tock

[topnotch305]

Practice going on the usual typical day

[topnotch305]

15 hours ago, SFLFBFan said:

Tick Tock

Why you erased all of that garbage you wrote earlier? Lol

[topnotch305]

I saw the article. Practice as usual today as well. 

[cribboy305]

We don’t entertain false info. 

[Jullian]

So per Miami Herald, the allegations seem to be true. The FHSAA stated if , & it looks as though they did use a 5th year ineligible player, sanctions will come after the season! Wonder how the green & white feel about that! Same breaking of the rules but the Bulls won’t be penalized till the season is over! Lol

[Perspective]

45 minutes ago, Jullian said:

So per Miami Herald, the allegations seem to be true. The FHSAA stated if , & it looks as though they did use a 5th year ineligible player, sanctions will come after the season! Wonder how the green & white feel about that! Same breaking of the rules but the Bulls won’t be penalized till the season is over! Lol

Could simply be a due process issue . . . i.e., if the matter just now came to the attention of the FHSAA, they would have to give the school notice, the school would have to be given time to investigate (I'll write more about that process later) and respond, appropriate board might have to meet, possible appeals, etc.  

While I'm generally not in favor of allowing "guilty" teams to participate in the playoffs, I also understand the general presumption of "innocent until proven guilty" and realize it would be tremendously unfair to punish a team for their presumptive transgressions and make them miss the playoffs only to have the school go through the process and not be deserving of punishment. 

[Nulli Secundus]

55 minutes ago, Jullian said:

So per Miami Herald, the allegations seem to be true. The FHSAA stated if , & it looks as though they did use a 5th year ineligible player, sanctions will come after the season! Wonder how the green & white feel about that! Same breaking of the rules but the Bulls won’t be penalized till the season is over! Lol

After the season?  What about all the schools still alive in that region that will also be punished if they lose to the Bulls when they shouldn't be there in the first place?  

[Nulli Secundus]

4 minutes ago, Perspective said:

Could simply be a due process issue . . . i.e., if the matter just now came to the attention of the FHSAA, they would have to give the school notice, the school would have to be given time to investigate (I'll write more about that process later) and respond, appropriate board might have to meet, possible appeals, etc.  

While I'm generally not in favor of allowing "guilty" teams to participate in the playoffs, I also understand the general presumption of "innocent until proven guilty" and realize it would be tremendously unfair to punish a team for their presumptive transgressions and make them miss the playoffs only to have the school go through the process and not be deserving of punishment. 

How DARE you reply to Jullian a split second before I did? 

[Jullian]

14 minutes ago, Perspective said:

Could simply be a due process issue . . . i.e., if the matter just now came to the attention of the FHSAA, they would have to give the school notice, the school would have to be given time to investigate (I'll write more about that process later) and respond, appropriate board might have to meet, possible appeals, etc.  

While I'm generally not in favor of allowing "guilty" teams to participate in the playoffs, I also understand the general presumption of "innocent until proven guilty" and realize it would be tremendously unfair to punish a team for their presumptive transgressions and make them miss the playoffs only to have the school go through the process and not be deserving of punishment. 

Well it “sounds” it’s legitimate. People perhaps dragging their feet at NW & the FHSAA too close to kickoff to call it off???? Me thinks that if it’s the same violation that Central got expelled from the playoffs, that if (when) NW wins the title, it’ll be stripped???? 

[Jullian]

19 minutes ago, Nulli Secundus said:

After the season?  What about all the schools still alive in that region that will also be punished if they lose to the Bulls when they shouldn't be there in the first place?  

Quite right……

[h8r]

seems pretty cut and dry after reading the article....i cant for the life of me see what the hold up would be.

mnw, send fhsaa the timestamp records of when said student enrolled.  and he is on the playoff roster.

if its what it states,

they forfiet all the games and are eliminated.

why wait 3 weeks,

 

[topnotch305]

NW will be fine paperwork legit. And no I'm not just saying that because that's my school. Talked to certain people and asked the right questions before this post.  FHSAA has the paperwork they need. That's all I'm going to say about this and come end of December and Jan. This won't be an issue. This same issue was bought up before the playoffs and it was nothing. Now a certain school still reaching trying everything in their power to end NW season lol. This is my last post about this.

[Nulli Secundus]

13 minutes ago, topnotch305 said:

NW will be fine paperwork legit. And no I'm not just saying that because that's my school. Talked to certain people and asked the right questions before this post.  FHSAA has the paperwork they need. That's all I'm going to say about this and come end of December and Jan. This won't be an issue. This same issue was bought up before the playoffs and it was nothing. Now a certain school still reaching trying everything in their power to end NW season lol. This is my last post about this.

I can respect your stance.

[Nulli Secundus]

19 minutes ago, h8r said:

seems pretty cut and dry after reading the article....i cant for the life of me see what the hold up would be.

mnw, send fhsaa the timestamp records of when said student enrolled.  and he is on the playoff roster.

if its what it states,

they forfiet all the games and are eliminated.

why wait 3 weeks,

 

Pretty much.  It serves no purpose to potentially have a title vacated if the Bulls run the table if the documented information clearly demonstrates what the punishment should be.

[Ray Icaza]

1 hour ago, Perspective said:

Could simply be a due process issue . . . i.e., if the matter just now came to the attention of the FHSAA, they would have to give the school notice, the school would have to be given time to investigate (I'll write more about that process later) and respond, appropriate board might have to meet, possible appeals, etc.  

While I'm generally not in favor of allowing "guilty" teams to participate in the playoffs, I also understand the general presumption of "innocent until proven guilty" and realize it would be tremendously unfair to punish a team for their presumptive transgressions and make them miss the playoffs only to have the school go through the process and not be deserving of punishment. 

I believe yours is the best assessment of the situation since the NW team, its coaches and fans are all opposed to this finding.  Unlike Central HS that "SELF-REPORTED" meaning they didn't dispute the violation, a ruling came quickly.  On the other hand like the TFA case, they were also in denial which required the FHSAA to take a couple of months to have an airtight case before handing down the judgement.  Even though in that case they were obviously guilty, the process to bring those charges took quite a bit of time.  So, it probably is way too early for either side to claim their facts are correct. Only time will tell. 

[cribboy305]

26 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

I believe yours is the best assessment of the situation since the NW team, its coaches and fans are all opposed to this finding.  Unlike Central HS that "SELF-REPORTED" meaning they didn't dispute the violation, a ruling came quickly.  On the other hand like the TFA case, they were also in denial which required the FHSAA to take a couple of months to have an airtight case before handing down the judgement.  Even though in that case they were obviously guilty, the process to bring those charges took quite a bit of time.  So, it probably is way too early for either side to claim their facts are correct. Only time will tell. 

Centrals article says self reported but believe they were told on. Thats why they self reported. The kid the article is referring to hasnt been on Nw roster all season if im not mistaken. This is all crab in a bucket nonsense that’ll eventually fade. Though some would love to see the bulls fail it wont hold up. 

[cribboy305]

Some of yall grown folks is praying on a bunch of kids downfall & its sad & pathetic. Had some happy when central fell, clapped wen norland got reprimanded & now its false allegations & hopes to see the bulls suffer too. This lil situation giving yall ammo to now say what you really feel cause you always had a lil hate in yo heart for dade.