Miami Northwestern

[Perspective]

6 minutes ago, cribboy305 said:

Some of yall grown folks is praying on a bunch of kids downfall & its sad & pathetic. Had some happy when central fell, clapped wen norland got reprimanded & now its false allegations & hopes to see the bulls suffer too. This lil situation giving yall ammo to now say what you really feel cause you always had a lil hate in yo heart for dade. 

I can tell you, without hesitation, that I have an equal amount of disdain for any and all schools that bend and break the rules in order to give themselves a competitive advantage on the field or court.  I don't care whether those schools are in south Florida, southwest Florida or central Florida. 

[WindsorCT]

9 minutes ago, Perspective said:

I can tell you, without hesitation, that I have an equal amount of disdain for any and all schools that bend and break the rules in order to give themselves a competitive advantage on the field or court.  I don't care whether those schools are in south Florida, southwest Florida or central Florida. 

I’ve got a brilliant idea! Have a tournament of all the teams that had wins taken away and have it broadcasted on ESPN 8 The Ocho…..

Gaither 

Central

NW

Norland

TFA

Western

I’m sure I am missing some. That’s a solid bracket right there!!

[Perspective]

Big picture here:

The idea of "self reporting" is a little bit of a misnomer.   Here's my understanding of the way the process works.

Typically, someone not associated with the school in question provides information to the FHSAA suggesting the school committed impropriety of some sort.  The FHSAA then takes a look at it to see if the information passes the sniff test ("Hmmm, if this is true, this looks like it could be an issue").  If so, the FHSAA sends the information to the school.   Importantly, at this point, the FHSAA has not conducted any sort of investigation; they just pass the information along to the school.   Upon receipt, the school is expected to essentially do their own, internal investigation to "explain" the information that was passed along.  If the school determines that they may have done something wrong, they then "self report" the violation.  The FHSAA then determines if, in fact, a violation has occurred (which they almost always do if a school self-reports a violation) and, if so, what the appropriate sanction should be.  The FHSAA then notifies the school. Generally speaking, the FHSAA rarely ever conducts its own investigation.  However, when they do, if they find the school did something wrong and should have 'self-reported' the misconduct, the FHSAA will come down a little harder on the school than if the school had acknowledged the misconduct from the start. 

Again, this is just my understanding.  Feel free to chime in, especially if you've somehow been involved in the process in the last few years. 

[Jullian]

55 minutes ago, cribboy305 said:

Some of yall grown folks is praying on a bunch of kids downfall & its sad & pathetic. Had some happy when central fell, clapped wen norland got reprimanded & now its false allegations & hopes to see the bulls suffer too. This lil situation giving yall ammo to now say what you really feel cause you always had a lil hate in yo heart for dade. 

Yeah right, that sounds like you. Always gotta chip on your shoulder! If it was about the kids, YOUR COACHES & ADMINISTRATION should get their crap together because they’re the ones putting your kids “outta business!” If this was Aquinas or Chaminade the same $hit show would be going down, because people root against great programs! Western got 2,wins overturned because they broke the flipping rules. Broward county wasn’t crying and blaming the world for something the school did illegally. They were closed to missing the playoffs & the kids woulda suffered BECAUSE OF COACHES! No one hates the 305 they hate the ignorance & arrogance of your fans! Most of us relish the opportunity to beat the 305 & respect highly the football from their. SO TRY BE A GROWN MAN & sounded like one instead of some woe is me fool. 

[Ray Icaza]

53 minutes ago, Perspective said:

Big picture here:

 

 

 

The idea of "self reporting" is a little bit of a misnomer.   Here's my understanding of the way the process works.

 

Typically, someone not associated with the school in question provides information to the FHSAA suggesting the school committed impropriety of some sort.  The FHSAA then takes a look at it to see if the information passes the sniff test ("Hmmm, if this is true, this looks like it could be an issue").  If so, the FHSAA sends the information to the school.   Importantly, at this point, the FHSAA has not conducted any sort of investigation; they just pass the information along to the school.   Upon receipt, the school is expected to essentially do their own, internal investigation to "explain" the information that was passed along.  If the school determines that they may have done something wrong, they then "self report" the violation.  The FHSAA then determines if, in fact, a violation has occurred (which they almost always do if a school self-reports a violation) and, if so, what the appropriate sanction should be.  The FHSAA then notifies the school. Generally speaking, the FHSAA rarely ever conducts its own investigation.  However, when they do, if they find the school did something wrong and should have 'self-reported' the misconduct, the FHSAA will come down a little harder on the school than if the school had acknowledged the misconduct from the start. 

Again, this is just my understanding.  Feel free to chime in, especially if you've somehow been involved in the process in the last few years. 

No working knowledge of that process, but your description is probably correct.  The clear difference in the cases I used is the one school decided to lawyer up and fight.  Central did not, regardless of the details on self-reporting a quick decision could be determined.  The other fact is the FHSAA is willing to punish cheaters regardless of the geographic region they are from as evident with TFA and not singling out Miami-Dade as implied but where it is taking place.  I support them in that effort.  

[Jullian]

***** An addition to my above post, or correction: NOT ALL 305 fans are like what I  posted above. Of course! Each fan base has their “element “…..

[cribboy305]

1 hour ago, Perspective said:

I can tell you, without hesitation, that I have an equal amount of disdain for any and all schools that bend and break the rules in order to give themselves a competitive advantage on the field or court.  I don't care whether those schools are in south Florida, southwest Florida or central Florida. 

The thing is it isn’t that black & white. Coaches should know whats always happening, theres no excuse there but I have serious doubts any coach was just knowingly playing ineligible players.

[Perspective]

26 minutes ago, cribboy305 said:

The thing is it isn’t that black & white. Coaches should know whats always happening, theres no excuse there but I have serious doubts any coach was just knowingly playing ineligible players.

I hear you, but whether the coach knows or not is largely irrelevant.   The player, the player's parent(s)/guardian(s), the coaches and the school administration all play a part in making sure the players are eligible.  If any one of them screws up, it can cost the whole team.  This one may be on the administration.   But, the whole team may end up paying for it. 

[cribboy305]

2 hours ago, Jullian said:

Yeah right, that sounds like you. Always gotta chip on your shoulder! If it was about the kids, YOUR COACHES & ADMINISTRATION should get their crap together because they’re the ones putting your kids “outta business!” If this was Aquinas or Chaminade the same $hit show would be going down, because people root against great programs! Western got 2,wins overturned because they broke the flipping rules. Broward county wasn’t crying and blaming the world for something the school did illegally. They were closed to missing the playoffs & the kids woulda suffered BECAUSE OF COACHES! No one hates the 305 they hate the ignorance & arrogance of your fans! Most of us relish the opportunity to beat the 305 & respect highly the football from their. SO TRY BE A GROWN MAN & sounded like one instead of some woe is me fool. 

See jujubean yo problem is you come to these boards like you’re actually someone. You wouldn’t go up to none of these coaches or kids parents talking how you do on here. You making this situation about me further proves my point.  No one brung western on here. The whole conversation was about Central & Norland & how “dade county has never played by the rules”. Just gossiping like lil asx girls & spreading bullcrap about kids. 

[cribboy305]

31 minutes ago, cribboy305 said:

See jujubean yo problem is you come to these boards like you’re actually someone. You wouldn’t go up to none of these coaches or kids parents talking how you do on here. You making this situation about me further proves my point.  No one brung western on here. The whole conversation was about Central & Norland & how “dade county has never played by the rules”. Just gossiping like lil asx girls & spreading bullshit about kids. 

excuse my french Admins. 

[Jullian]

59 minutes ago, cribboy305 said:

See jujubean yo problem is you come to these boards like you’re actually someone. You wouldn’t go up to none of these coaches or kids parents talking how you do on here. You making this situation about me further proves my point.  No one brung western on here. The whole conversation was about Central & Norland & how “dade county has never played by the rules”. Just gossiping like lil asx girls & spreading bullcrap about kids. 

Then you nothing bout me. Ask Mr Dillard bout me! We know each other good.  I know you a crybaby bitch. You always on here crying like a girl. Poe 305 everybody against us. Tears & more tears. That I do know!!!! Just like when u on here & start accusing people $hit cause your schools fail you! Cause Central got caught & failed the kids! The PROBLEM ain’t north of County Line Road fool. 

[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

No one mentioning how @SFLFBFan got the documents of the accused. It looked like it came straight from the guidance department. Now I know why he deleted it. Kinda crazy

[DarterBlue2]

25 minutes ago, THAT S--T WAS FUNNY said:

No one mentioning how @SFLFBFan got the documents of the accused. It looked like it came straight from the guidance department. Now I know why he deleted it. Kinda crazy

Indeed!

[FBGUY1989]

I just seen an article on Northwestern football team. I don't know if any of it is true but the article said alleged allegations on a 5th year player. I'm just hoping it's not true.

[Trelle]

34 minutes ago, FBGUY1989 said:

I just seen an article on Northwestern football team. I don't know if any of it is true but the article said alleged allegations on a 5th year player. I'm just hoping it's not true.

I have nothing to do with pro/or against MNW but was just curious myself. I just simply googled Miami Northwestern Football and it pulled multiple articles up about an alleged ineligible player now from the Palm Beach Post to Sports Illustrated reporting with the key words in the headline being “Teddy Bridgewater”. Probably just focusing on his name to draw in easy clicks, otherwise I’d doubt some of these places would even write an article, but his name is making this stick out more so than it probably would have.

[JDHoss]

I saw NW twice three times this year, at Coconut Creek, at Venice and at Traz Powell against Columbus. I love watching them play, but if they broke the rules, then there should be consequences. That said, I hope it gets sorted out and they can advance. 

[FBGUY1989]

1 hour ago, JDHoss said:

I saw NW twice three times this year, at Coconut Creek, at Venice and at Traz Powell against Columbus. I love watching them play, but if they broke the rules, then there should be consequences. That said, I hope it gets sorted out and they can advance. 

I agree with you. I don't want to see Northwestern out the playoffs but cheating isn’t right especially if you're a school like Central or Northwestern. Both of them have talent and can pretty much beat anyone without the help of one individual.

[cribboy305]

On 11/21/2024 at 4:36 PM, Jullian said:

Then you nothing bout me. Ask Mr Dillard bout me! We know each other good.  I know you a crybaby bitch. You always on here crying like a girl. Poe 305 everybody against us. Tears & more tears. That I do know!!!! Just like when u on here & start accusing people $hit cause your schools fail you! Cause Central got caught & failed the kids! The PROBLEM ain’t north of County Line Road fool. 

Stop rappin on the internet main man you not like dat. & my point was bout false info & talking bout the kids. you made it bout me now you hot. you a booty jit

[Jullian]

1 hour ago, cribboy305 said:

Stop rappin on the internet main man you not like dat. & my point was bout false info & talking bout the kids. you made it bout me now you hot. you a booty jit

& you made it about the “grown folks” on here instead of the “grown Folks” that ended the kids season! Think about it. 

[cribboy305]

20 minutes ago, Jullian said:

& you made it about the “grown folks” on here instead of the “grown Folks” that ended the kids season! Think about it. 

Yea you not wrong about that but im passionate bout my city, see i hold them accountable in real life, ian finna come here talking bout these ppl & i dont kno all the facts. 

[Jullian]

8 hours ago, cribboy305 said:

Yea you not wrong about that but im passionate bout my city, see i hold them accountable in real life, ian finna come here talking bout these ppl & i dont kno all the facts. 

Then enough of this then. Time to concentrate on the best part of the year!

[FBGUY1989]

Looks like it's going to be Northwestern and Raines at state.

[topnotch305]

On 11/21/2024 at 12:38 PM, WindsorCT said:

I’ve got a brilliant idea! Have a tournament of all the teams that had wins taken away and have it broadcasted on ESPN 8 The Ocho…..

Gaither 

Central

NW

Norland

TFA

Western

I’m sure I am missing some. That’s a solid bracket right there!!

Did I miss something?  NW had wins taken away? 

[topnotch305]

Well well well what do you know.  FSHAA had cleared NW like I said.  A few of you had them guilty eventhough initial article said allegations. You can find article on the palm beach post. 

[topnotch305]

On 11/18/2024 at 9:54 AM, SFLFBFan said:

Northwestern has been reported to the FHSAA for a 5th year player. Player started in 2020 left and then went between NW and Central. FHSAA has all the details proof of NW trying to cover tracks. 

I'm sure they do lol