FIT Tournament

[Ray Icaza]

2 hours ago, SoftballGuy said:

Now what you're arguing here is separate from the issue of seeding 

What your arguing is that any system for sending should have transparency and that I agree with which is why I have been publicly critical of the current fhsaa postseason rankings system as it lacks transparency and doesn't add up with the results 

Wrong, we are the #3 SEED in our Region while South Lake is the #2 SEED.  Seeding by the FHSAA is extremely flawed as almost everyone on this forum agrees.  That determines home field advantage and your earlier point of a lousy team hosting if you alternate every year is moot if you followed Perspectives view which I agree with is that for the opening round games the DISTRICT CHAMP should host.   That will make that possibility minimal.   Yes, I would like transparency, but in the end if I could see how they arrived at their mistakes it wouldn't make me feel any better. 

 

2 hours ago, SoftballGuy said:

Now what you're arguing here is separate from the issue of seeding 

What your arguing is that any system for sending should have transparency and that I agree with which is why I have been publicly critical of the current fhsaa postseason rankings system as it lacks transparency and doesn't add up with the results 

 

[SoftballGuy]

2 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:

Wrong, we are the #3 SEED in our Region while South Lake is the #2 SEED.  Seeding by the FHSAA is extremely flawed as almost everyone on this forum agrees.  That determines home field advantage and your earlier point of a lousy team hosting if you alternate every year is moot if you followed Perspectives view which I agree with is that for the opening round games the DISTRICT CHAMP should host.   That will make that possibility minimal.   Yes, I would like transparency, but in the end if I could see how they arrived at their mistakes it wouldn't make me feel any better. 

 

 

 

 

 

It's flawed because the system isn't doing what it claimed to do 

Going further back into the past only deludes the product even more. The fhsaa thought moving away from metro suburban and returning to student enrollment as the only measure of classifications did exactly what i said it would do and look at the playoff results last week if you don't believe me. Pretty sure the average margin of victory was over 30 points for the entire state of Florida 

Seeding should absolutely be earned we just need a better formula for it 

[Hwy17]

On 11/16/2025 at 11:49 AM, Perspective said:

I'm not taking issue with your proposal, but I do have a couple of questions.   How do you resolve these situations:

1.  OK, so you've got 6 teams in the district.  Team A beats Team B; B beats C and C beats A.  A, B and C all beat all the other teams in the district and all three teams finish 4-1 in district play. Classic three-team tie for the district title.   How do you break the tie and determine the District Champ who then goes into the playoffs while the other two teams stay home?  A three-team playoff (one quarter each)?  When does this playoff get played - the Monday before the playoffs are supposed to start?  

2. If there are only 3 districts in each region, how do you set up the regional playoffs?  Does one of the three teams get a bye?  If so, how do you determine which team?  

3.  Let's say District 1 has two really, really good teams and District 2 has six crappy teams.   Are you OK with the District 2 Champion going to the playoffs while the District 1 runner-up stays home because they happened to lose a close game to the eventual District 1 champion early in the season on a questionable call?  

 

Personally, I like the idea of 6 teams in a district.   But, I'd stick with 4 districts in each region.   If that means reducing the number of classes, so be it.  The 4 district champs (using whatever formula or playoff system works best to determine the district champ in the event of ties) host the first round of the playoffs.  I don't care if everyone in the world knows that a runner-up from one district is better than the champion of another district -- if you win your district, you deserve to host at least one playoff game.  Period.  The top remaining four teams fill out the field of 8 teams in each region.  I'll leave for another time the discussion of how those remaining four (non-district champ) teams are selected, but it would likely be through some sort of power ranking.  Same system would determine the seeding of the top 4 district champs.  Yeah, I know this system looks a little familiar, but assuming you have a decent power-ranking formula, it should work.  

#1.  Classic Kansas City shoot-out to break the 3 way tie. 

#2. Team with best record gets a bye. In the event of a tie, head-to-head, or computer ranking.

#3.  Yep! This is how it was when I was in school.  It sucks, but life isn't fair. Ask Desoto about their 1988 team. 

No more wildcards, 8 team playoffs or small districts.  Get rid of a class or two and you start having 8 and 9 team districts like when I was in school.  District runner-ups get a bowl game.

[SoftballGuy]

22 minutes ago, Hwy17 said:

#1.  Classic Kansas City shoot-out to break the 3 way tie. 

#2. Team with best record gets a bye. In the event of a tie, head-to-head, or computer ranking.

#3.  Yep! This is how it was when I was in school.  It sucks, but life isn't fair. Ask Desoto about their 1988 team. 

No more wildcards, 8 team playoffs or small districts.  Get rid of a class or two and you start having 8 and 9 team districts like when I was in school.  District runner-ups get a bowl game.

In other words reward teams who can raid local schools for talent while punishing teams in good parts of the state. What could possibly go wrong 

[Hwy17]

2 hours ago, SoftballGuy said:

In other words reward teams who can raid local schools for talent while punishing teams in good parts of the state. What could possibly go wrong 

Hey, that's how FHSAA likes it.  

[SoftballGuy]

2 hours ago, Hwy17 said:

Hey, that's how FHSAA likes it.  

Yeah which is why im against it 

Because that will lead to a further shift in the wrong direction 

[Hwy17]

16 hours ago, SoftballGuy said:

Yeah which is why im against it 

Because that will lead to a further shift in the wrong direction 

FHSAA is too worried about protecting their overpaid executives to do any real reform.  They could enact a common sense transfer policy but instead they blame the state legislature as a cop-out. The best thing is for schools to get out. Form a new league,  join SSAA,  whatever. Let the STARS and others have their own.

 

[Perspective]

2 hours ago, Hwy17 said:

FHSAA is too worried about protecting their overpaid executives to do any real reform.  They could enact a common sense transfer policy but instead they blame the state legislature as a cop-out. The best thing is for schools to get out. Form a new league,  join SSAA,  whatever. Let the STARS and others have their own.

 

Not disagreeing with anything that you've said, but I'll go out on a limb with this prediction:  if enough schools start leaving the FHSAA (especially public schools and any big-name private schools), I would expect the legislature to jump in and take action.   What action?  I haven't a clue, but it would action that would reverse the trend and send the rats scurrying back onto the boat . . .  and that's not a poke at the Lakeland Dreadnoughts.   

[SoftballGuy]

3 hours ago, Hwy17 said:

FHSAA is too worried about protecting their overpaid executives to do any real reform.  They could enact a common sense transfer policy but instead they blame the state legislature as a cop-out. The best thing is for schools to get out. Form a new league,  join SSAA,  whatever. Let the STARS and others have their own.

 

They don't blame the state legislature anymore since its the same people who appointed the board now 

But I agree every team should just pull out and form a new league since the state leadership is incompetent 

[Jambun82]

4 hours ago, SoftballGuy said:

They don't blame the state legislature anymore since its the same people who appointed the board now 

But I agree every team should just pull out and form a new league since the state leadership is incompetent 

What state leadership are you referring to? 

[SoftballGuy]

1 hour ago, Jambun82 said:

What state leadership are you referring to? 

This below is what I'm referring to and the fhsaa has made nothing but bad decisions ever since this 

If only people on the boards and on Twitter would read the site once in a while 

https://floridahsfootball.com/2023/05/22/understanding-all-the-changes-that-are-coming-to-the-fhsaa-this-summer-with-the-signing-of-house-bill-225/

 

[SoftballGuy]

Ever since this was passed the fhsaa started acting In the interest of the morons in Tallahassee who don't know anything about athletics and stopped acting in the interests of those actually involved with athletics

[Jambun82]

9 hours ago, SoftballGuy said:

Ever since this was passed the fhsaa started acting In the interest of the morons in Tallahassee who don't know anything about athletics and stopped acting in the interests of those actually involved with athletics

Message for the moderators of the message board: I am not the only poster who talks about politics on the message board. My political posts have been deleted, and I expect equal treatment for all message board posters. 

[Jambun82]

On 11/14/2025 at 11:21 AM, nolebull813 said:

Imagine that. 2 teams with a combined record of 18-2 and both ranked in the top 5 of their class not in the playoffs.

nowadays you have 2-3 districts where you can go 0-10 or 1-9 and make the playoffs. 
 

can someone abolish the FHSAA please? 

I hope that you see that I am not the only poster who talks about politics on the message board. I expect equal treatment since my political posts have been deleted. Thank you. 

[SoftballGuy]

51 minutes ago, Jambun82 said:

Message for the moderators of the message board: I am not the only poster who talks about politics on the message board. My political posts have been deleted, and I expect equal treatment for all message board posters. 

Maybe you should read the rules a bit closer 

 

No talking politics at all on the forums unless it is placed under the Off Topic Board. If you post in a thread that is one subject and then you start talking politics, it will be locked and/or deleted, no questions asked by the administrators or board mods. The only exception to this rule will be if talking politics relates to something going on with high school football or high school sports in general -- like a bill that is being heard or passed in a state, for example. 

 

 

that bill being referenced by an article written by Joshua is specific to sports in Florida and if we want to start talking bout rules I can quote MANY of your posts where you are extremely disrespectful to MULTIPLE members of the board which violates multiple rules on this board 

[SoftballGuy]

All of these are rule violations but sure have fun talking about me breaking the rules 

 

On 10/13/2025 at 9:54 PM, Jambun82 said:

That's because these goofs have nothing to say when I called them out on that. I have exposed the ignorance of the knowledge of officiating by posters to the message board!  

 

On 9/16/2025 at 10:38 AM, Jambun82 said:

I didn't respond to what, big mouth? 

 

On 12/7/2024 at 6:25 PM, Jambun82 said:

How would you know big mouth? 

 

On 12/7/2024 at 10:04 AM, Jambun82 said:

I wasn't talking to you, and since you didn't answer the question that I asked you previously. I suggest you staying out of this discussion know-it-all. Also, I thought that you weren't going to respond to me anymore, did you forget about that already, big shot? 

 

On 11/19/2024 at 9:47 PM, Jambun82 said:

Much to the dismay of many posters to this message board, and like my role model, the great 45th and 47th President Donald Trump, great men cannot be kept down! After a year of inactivity, I have decided that the many posters to this message board, even though most do not deserve it, will receive the honor and privilege or my brilliance, logic, reason, and overall great knowledge of high school officiating! I have educated, informed, taught lessons, and inspired many, and the like the great American and inspiration, President Donald Trump, I will not be denied! I don't care what any poster has to say, and I will hold any poster accountable on the subject of high school officiating. You're welcome, and the honor and privilege is all yours!      

 

On 11/20/2024 at 9:17 AM, Jambun82 said:

Many posters to this message board hate me with a passion and wish that I was physically harmed because I have patiently tried to explain how high school officiating works, and what high school officials are looking for and tasked with providing during a game. Also, I do not share the same political beliefs as the majority of posters to this message board (even though the majority of Americans share my beliefs as was proven on November 5th), so they have gotten me banned for a while, and try to run me off by insulting me (which I consider a compliment) and questioning my very existence. I am the most hated poster to the FloridaHSFootball message board! 

 

On 11/19/2024 at 4:05 PM, Jambun82 said:

Did you get all of your crying done from November 5th? 

 

On 10/8/2023 at 9:38 PM, Jambun82 said:

That is interesting, because I have been asked by many women if I am a male stripper, and if not would I ever consider it. 

 

[SoftballGuy]

I can find more if needed this was just by scrolling a few pages 

[MarkECannon]

An ignore button would probably be a great idea for this board.

[SoftballGuy]

26 minutes ago, MarkECannon said:

An ignore button would probably be a great idea for this board.

I think there is actually. The downside is that it should make it where they can't see your posts either once you put someone down as "ignored"

[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

Jambun needs a snitch button

[SoftballGuy]

Just now, THAT S--T WAS FUNNY said:

Jambun needs a snitch button

It's ironic he would complain about the rules being broken when he probably has more posts that break it than any other active poster here 

[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

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[THAT S--T WAS FUNNY]

2 minutes ago, SoftballGuy said:

It's ironic he would complain about the rules being broken when he probably has more posts that break it than any other active poster here 

Usually how it goes

[JDHoss]

Anyway, there's a couple of good games in PBC tomorrow night for the FIT. Royal Palm Beach @ Doc Garcia and Fort Pierce Westwood @ Palm Beach Gardens. We're (and @MarkECannon) hitting the game at PBG, since we haven't seen Westwood play this year. I saw PGB against Dwyer earlier, but both teams have freewheeling quarterbacks with good arms and some good skill guys to throw to. Both should be really competitive games. 

[Jambun82]

7 hours ago, SoftballGuy said:

All of these are rule violations but sure have fun talking about me breaking the rules 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for providing me with some of my "greatest hits!"