California vs Texas vs Florida Top 25 School Comparisons

[OldSchoolLion]

The information below gives one a picture of what is happening in 3 of the best known states for high school football.  I have broken down the top 25 programs in each state according to last year's final Maxpreps ratings...from a demographic and academic standpoint.  California and Florida are becoming increasingly dominated by private schools.  Texas is not.  Texas public schools appear to be succeeding in the classroom and on the field.  3 of Texas' top 8 programs are in very affluent suburbs, so there is a financial element to this discussion as well. 

One wonders if lagging academic programs and/or financial resources in certain public school districts are making private schools a more attractive option for certain athletes.   There appears to be a correlation between academic ratings and school demographics.  Higher percentage of minorities=lower academic ratings and, most likely, less financial resources for the football program.  That doesn't mean that "poor" school districts cannot succeed, but they are clearly at a disadvantage.  

 

Breakdown of Academic Ratings Below (academic rating in parentheses after each school)

FL Public Schools 3A, 2 A-, 2 B+, 1 B, 5 C+, 3 C, 3 C- (42% scored B or better)

FL Private Schools 4A+, 1 A-, 1 B+

TX Public Schools 5A+, 5A, 4A-, 3B+, 2B, 1B-, 1 C (90% scored B or better)

TX Private Schools 2A+, 1 A-, 1B-

CA Public Schools 1A+, 3A, 3A-, 3 B+, 1B-, 2C+, 1 C (71% scored B or better)

CA Private schools 6A+, 3A, 1 B+

 

*Private schools-Texas has 4, California has 10(8 in LA, 2 in SF), Florida has 6(4 in Broward County)

**Intensely segregated schools (90% or more non-white population)-Texas has 0, California has 2, Florida has 6 (4 in Dade County; all 6 scored “C+” or lower in academics)

 

Florida Top 25 Football Programs (Maxpreps rankings)

*IMG 43% White, 14% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A+)

*American Heritage/Plantation 48% White, 23% Hispanic, 10% Black     (A+)

Venice 85% White, 8% Hispanic, 2% Black     (B+)

**Northwestern 92% Black, 8% Hispanic, 0.3% White     (C)

Armwood 36% Black, 32% White, 27% Hispanic    (C)

**Miami Central 80% Black, 19% Hispanic, 1% White     (C-)

*Chaminade-Madonna 43% White, 31% Hispanic, 13% Black     (A-)

Dr Phillips 32% Black, 30% White, 28% Hispanic      (B+)

St Augustine 74% White, 15% Black, 8% Hispanic     (B)

*Cardinal Gibbons 60% White, 16% Black, 15% Hispanic     (B+)

**Raines 96% Black, 1% White, 1% Hispanic     (C-)

Cocoa 51% White, 22% Black 18% Hispanic     (C+)

Wekiva 41% Black, 27% Hispanic, 25% White     (C+)

Bartam Trail 83% White, 7% Hispanic, Black 6%     (A)

*St Thomas Aquinas White 67%, 24% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A+)

**Carol City 83% Black, 16% Hispanic, 1% White    (C-)

*Oxbridge Academy 69% White, 10% Black, 8% Hispanic     (A+)

**Immokalee 75% Hispanic, 20% Black, 3% White     (C+)

Madison County 57% Black, 37% White, 4% Hispanic     (C)

Plant 67% White, 19% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A)

Sarasota Riverview 69% White, 17% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A-)

Winter Park 56% White, 24% Hispanic, 10% Black     (A)

Viera 71% White, 14% Hispanic, 6% Black     (A-)

Osceola 66% Hispanic, 15% White, 13% Black     (C+)

**Miami Sr High 93% Hispanic, 5% Black, 2% White     (C+)

 

Texas Top 25 Football Programs (Maxpreps rankings)

The schools underlined below are in very wealthy schools districts.

 Allen 56% White, 15% Hispanic, 12% Black     (A+)

Cy-Fair 46% White, 29% Hispanic, 12% Black     (A)

Katy 50% White, 35% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A-)

Midway 56% White, 22% Hispanic, 14% Black     (A)

Highland Park 88% White, 5% Hispanic, 0.4% Black     (A+)

Manvel 36% Hispanic, 33% Black, 17% White     (B)

Lake Travis 70% White, 19% Hispanic, 1% Black     (A+)

Westlake 70% White, 14% Hispanic, 1% Black     (A+)

Carthage 59% White, 22% Black, 16% Hispanic     (B-)

Longview 39% Black, 34% Hispanic, 22% White     (B)

College Station 63% White, 17% Hispanic, 9% Black    (A-)  new school opened 2012

Cedar Ridge 39% White, 36% Hispanic, 14% Black     (B+)

*Prestonwood Christian 72% White, 7% Black, 4% Hispanic     (A+)

Martin 56% White, 18% Hispanic, 15% Black     (A)

Aledo 84% White, 10% Hispanic, 3% Black     (A)

Pleasant Grove 74% White, 13% Black, 6% Hispanic     (A)

*All Saints 80% White, 6% Hispanic, 5% Black     (A+)

Ryan 45% White, 35% Hispanic, 16% Black     (B+)

*Trinity Christian 48% Black, 23% White, 17% Hispanic     (B-)

Klein Collins 41% White, 34% Hispanic, 16% Black     (A-)

Trinity 35% White, 27% Hispanic, 22% Black     (B+)

Southlake Carroll 76% White, 8% Hispanic, 2% Black     (A+)

*St Pius X 45% White, 23% Hispanic, 15% Black     (A-)

Mansfield 53% White, 18% Black, 18% Hispanic     (A-)

Newton 54% White, 39% Black, 4% Hispanic     (C)

 

California Top 25 Football Programs (Maxpreps rankings)

*Mater Dei 38% White, 33% Hispanic, 4% Black     (A+)

*St John Bosco 50% Hispanic, 20% White, 10% Black     (?)

Folsom 61% White, 12% Hispanic, 3% Black     (A)

Centennial 55% Hispanic, 21% White, 9% Black     (B+)

*De La Salle 62% White, 15% Hispanic, 5% Black     (A+)

Mission Viejo 57% White, 28% Hispanic, 2% Black     (A)

Helix 48% Hispanic, 19% White, 17% Black     (A+)

*Serra 53% White, 13% Hispanic, 3% Black     (A)

**Narbonne 64% Hispanic, 19% Black, 5% White     (C+)

*Santa Margarita 63% White, 11% Hispanic, 1% Black      (A+)

*Chaminade 45% White, 10% Hispanic, 3% Black     (A+)

*Oaks Christian 53% White, 9% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A+)

Long Beach Poly 40% Hispanic, 21% Black, 12% White     (A-)

**Pittsburgh 60% Hispanic, 19% Black, 5% White     (C+)

Valencia 47% White, 27% Hispanic, 4% Black     (A)

Rancho Cucamonga 43% Hispanic, 26% White, 13% Black     (A-)

Upland 55% Hispanic, 25% White, 9% Black     (B+)

*JSerra Catholic 59% White, 11% Hispanic, 2% Black     (A)

Mission Hills 52% Hispanic, 35% White, 3% Black     (B+)

*Orange Lutheran 66% White, 9% Hispanic, 4% Black     (A+)

Murietta Valley 58% White, 28% Hispanic, 2% Black     (A-)

Central/Fresno 54% Hispanic, 18% White, 10% Black     (C)

Cajon 64% Hispanic, 15% White, 15% Black     (B-)

*Servite 41% White, 41% Hispanic, 5% Black     (A)

*St Mary’s 41% White, 31% Hispanic, 1% Black     (B+)

[BrowardHandicapper]

Not sure where you are going with this but I guess it  will end up race related ( as most of your posts do) ....

Football speaking Texas “public” schools should not be compared to public schools in FL or nationally pretty much anywhere as it is an extreme example and far from the norm.

Texas Public schools budgets combined with boosters probably make most  FL and Cali private school available funds look like peasants and panhandlers.

[Floridatech]

1 hour ago, OldSchoolLion said:

The information below gives one a picture of what is happening in 3 of the best known states for high school football.  I have broken down the top 25 programs in each state according to last year's final Maxpreps ratings...from a demographic and academic standpoint.  California and Florida are becoming increasingly dominated by private schools.  Texas is not.  Texas public schools appear to be succeeding in the classroom and on the field.  3 of Texas' top 8 programs are in very affluent suburbs, so there is a financial element to this discussion as well. 

One wonders if lagging academic programs and/or financial resources in certain public school districts are making private schools a more attractive option for certain athletes.   There appears to be a correlation between academic ratings and school demographics.  Higher percentage of minorities=lower academic ratings and, most likely, less financial resources for the football program.  That doesn't mean that "poor" school districts cannot succeed, but they are clearly at a disadvantage.  

 

Breakdown of Academic Ratings Below (academic rating in parentheses after each school)

FL Public Schools 3A, 2 A-, 2 B+, 1 B, 5 C+, 3 C, 3 C- (42% scored B or better)

FL Private Schools 4A+, 1 A-, 1 B+

TX Public Schools 5A+, 5A, 4A-, 3B+, 2B, 1B-, 1 C (90% scored B or better)

TX Private Schools 2A+, 1 A-, 1B-

CA Public Schools 1A+, 3A, 3A-, 3 B+, 1B-, 2C+, 1 C (71% scored B or better)

CA Private schools 6A+, 3A, 1 B+

 

*Private schools-Texas has 4, California has 10(8 in LA, 2 in SF), Florida has 6(4 in Broward County)

**Intensely segregated schools (90% or more non-white population)-Texas has 0, California has 2, Florida has 6 (4 in Dade County; all 6 scored “C+” or lower in academics)

 

Florida Top 25 Football Programs (Maxpreps rankings)

*IMG 43% White, 14% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A+)

*American Heritage/Plantation 48% White, 23% Hispanic, 10% Black     (A+)

Venice 85% White, 8% Hispanic, 2% Black     (B+)

**Northwestern 92% Black, 8% Hispanic, 0.3% White     (C)

Armwood 36% Black, 32% White, 27% Hispanic    (C)

**Miami Central 80% Black, 19% Hispanic, 1% White     (C-)

*Chaminade-Madonna 43% White, 31% Hispanic, 13% Black     (A-)

Dr Phillips 32% Black, 30% White, 28% Hispanic      (B+)

St Augustine 74% White, 15% Black, 8% Hispanic     (B)

*Cardinal Gibbons 60% White, 16% Black, 15% Hispanic     (B+)

**Raines 96% Black, 1% White, 1% Hispanic     (C-)

Cocoa 51% White, 22% Black 18% Hispanic     (C+)

Wekiva 41% Black, 27% Hispanic, 25% White     (C+)

Bartam Trail 83% White, 7% Hispanic, Black 6%     (A)

*St Thomas Aquinas White 67%, 24% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A+)

**Carol City 83% Black, 16% Hispanic, 1% White    (C-)

*Oxbridge Academy 69% White, 10% Black, 8% Hispanic     (A+)

**Immokalee 75% Hispanic, 20% Black, 3% White     (C+)

Madison County 57% Black, 37% White, 4% Hispanic     (C)

Plant 67% White, 19% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A)

Sarasota Riverview 69% White, 17% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A-)

Winter Park 56% White, 24% Hispanic, 10% Black     (A)

Viera 71% White, 14% Hispanic, 6% Black     (A-)

Osceola 66% Hispanic, 15% White, 13% Black     (C+)

**Miami Sr High 93% Hispanic, 5% Black, 2% White     (C+)

 

Texas Top 25 Football Programs (Maxpreps rankings)

The schools underlined below are in very wealthy schools districts.

 Allen 56% White, 15% Hispanic, 12% Black     (A+)

Cy-Fair 46% White, 29% Hispanic, 12% Black     (A)

Katy 50% White, 35% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A-)

Midway 56% White, 22% Hispanic, 14% Black     (A)

Highland Park 88% White, 5% Hispanic, 0.4% Black     (A+)

Manvel 36% Hispanic, 33% Black, 17% White     (B)

Lake Travis 70% White, 19% Hispanic, 1% Black     (A+)

Westlake 70% White, 14% Hispanic, 1% Black     (A+)

Carthage 59% White, 22% Black, 16% Hispanic     (B-)

Longview 39% Black, 34% Hispanic, 22% White     (B)

College Station 63% White, 17% Hispanic, 9% Black    (A-)  new school opened 2012

Cedar Ridge 39% White, 36% Hispanic, 14% Black     (B+)

*Prestonwood Christian 72% White, 7% Black, 4% Hispanic     (A+)

Martin 56% White, 18% Hispanic, 15% Black     (A)

Aledo 84% White, 10% Hispanic, 3% Black     (A)

Pleasant Grove 74% White, 13% Black, 6% Hispanic     (A)

*All Saints 80% White, 6% Hispanic, 5% Black     (A+)

Ryan 45% White, 35% Hispanic, 16% Black     (B+)

*Trinity Christian 48% Black, 23% White, 17% Hispanic     (B-)

Klein Collins 41% White, 34% Hispanic, 16% Black     (A-)

Trinity 35% White, 27% Hispanic, 22% Black     (B+)

Southlake Carroll 76% White, 8% Hispanic, 2% Black     (A+)

*St Pius X 45% White, 23% Hispanic, 15% Black     (A-)

Mansfield 53% White, 18% Black, 18% Hispanic     (A-)

Newton 54% White, 39% Black, 4% Hispanic     (C)

 

California Top 25 Football Programs (Maxpreps rankings)

*Mater Dei 38% White, 33% Hispanic, 4% Black     (A+)

*St John Bosco 50% Hispanic, 20% White, 10% Black     (?)

Folsom 61% White, 12% Hispanic, 3% Black     (A)

Centennial 55% Hispanic, 21% White, 9% Black     (B+)

*De La Salle 62% White, 15% Hispanic, 5% Black     (A+)

Mission Viejo 57% White, 28% Hispanic, 2% Black     (A)

Helix 48% Hispanic, 19% White, 17% Black     (A+)

*Serra 53% White, 13% Hispanic, 3% Black     (A)

**Narbonne 64% Hispanic, 19% Black, 5% White     (C+)

*Santa Margarita 63% White, 11% Hispanic, 1% Black      (A+)

*Chaminade 45% White, 10% Hispanic, 3% Black     (A+)

*Oaks Christian 53% White, 9% Hispanic, 8% Black     (A+)

Long Beach Poly 40% Hispanic, 21% Black, 12% White     (A-)

**Pittsburgh 60% Hispanic, 19% Black, 5% White     (C+)

Valencia 47% White, 27% Hispanic, 4% Black     (A)

Rancho Cucamonga 43% Hispanic, 26% White, 13% Black     (A-)

Upland 55% Hispanic, 25% White, 9% Black     (B+)

*JSerra Catholic 59% White, 11% Hispanic, 2% Black     (A)

Mission Hills 52% Hispanic, 35% White, 3% Black     (B+)

*Orange Lutheran 66% White, 9% Hispanic, 4% Black     (A+)

Murietta Valley 58% White, 28% Hispanic, 2% Black     (A-)

Central/Fresno 54% Hispanic, 18% White, 10% Black     (C)

Cajon 64% Hispanic, 15% White, 15% Black     (B-)

*Servite 41% White, 41% Hispanic, 5% Black     (A)

*St Mary’s 41% White, 31% Hispanic, 1% Black     (B+)

How come everything you post is about race and when it is it's something bad about blacks IDC about these statistics 

[OldSchoolLion]

51 minutes ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

Not sure where you are going with is but I guess it  will end up race related ( as most of your posts do) ....

Football speaking Texas “public” schools should not be compared to public schools in FL or nationally pretty much anywhere as it is an extreme example and far from the norm.

Texas Public schools budgets combined with boosters probably make most  FL and Cali private school available funds look like peasants and panhandlers.

I presented the data above in an objective, neutral manner.   The intelligent people on this board can draw their own conclusions.  

I am interested in correlations...not just in football, either...the "why" behind the current state of things.  One would be foolish not to include demographics as a possible variable that could impact hs football performance. The fact I do does not mean I have an agenda.  ...the end.

 

[Floridatech]

8 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

I presented the data above in an objective, neutral manner.   The intelligent people on this board can draw their own conclusions.  

I am interested in correlations...not just in football, either...the "why" behind the current state of things.  One would be foolish not to include demographics as a possible variable that could impact hs football performance. The fact I do does not mean I have an agenda.  ...the end.

 

Not the end I have seen u put this type of stuff up for a couple of weeks now I'm not black person who going to sit here and like I don't see what's being advertised I really have grown to dislike this country alot a person like you in your race will never understand my race........don't really like this being advertised like this 

[Zoe Boy]

Ok where are you going with this?

[Zoe Boy]

1 hour ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

Not sure where you are going with this but I guess it  will end up race related ( as most of your posts do) ....

Football speaking Texas “public” schools should not be compared to public schools in FL or nationally pretty much anywhere as it is an extreme example and far from the norm.

Texas Public schools budgets combined with boosters probably make most  FL and Cali private school available funds look like peasants and panhandlers.

That’s true

[Zoe Boy]

23 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

I presented the data above in an objective, neutral manner.   The intelligent people on this board can draw their own conclusions.  

I am interested in correlations...not just in football, either...the "why" behind the current state of things.  One would be foolish not to include demographics as a possible variable that could impact hs football performance. The fact I do does not mean I have an agenda.  ...the end.

 

Ok since you want to go there ,demographically does all schools public wise get same support compare to other schools let say a Cypress Bay vs Dillard funding wise?

[DisabledAccount]

3 minutes ago, Zoe Boy said:

Ok since you want to go there ,demographically does all schools public wise get same support compare to other schools let say a Cypress Bay vs Dillard funding wise?

Publics in the state of Florida are extremely underfunded 

 

The publics that get the most support are schools in areas full of million dollar type of donors (Bartram Trail, Ponte Vedra) those type of schools are rich like crazy 

[OldSchoolLion]

5 minutes ago, Floridatech said:

Not the end I have seen u put this type of stuff up for a couple of weeks now I'm not black person who going to sit here and like I don't see what's being advertised I really have grown to dislike this country alot a person like you in your race will never understand my race........don't really like this being advertised like this 

The topic of private schools  is one that interests many. Why have private schools become so dominant in certain areas of the state and country?  When I see a state like CA  in which 10/25 top-ranked schools are private, it makes me ask "why?" 

I suggest some possibilities above based on the data,  ie academics and resources.   I am not a private school homer, but am tired of the lame, ancient excuse of "they recruit" as the only reason.  That excuse doesn't hold as much water nowadays as transfer rules have changed.

The data above is what it is.  It is not intended to make anyone look bad.  The fact that certain "minority" schools have lower academic scores is not a negative reflection on minorities, themselves.  If anything, it is a negative reflection on our society as a whole.

We have inner city schools in Miami-Dade that have had tremendous success on the field despite overwhelming odds.  Inner city schools in TX and CA have not shared the same success.   The Los Angeles football scene has been taken over by private schools...not Miami-Dade.  That is a feather in our cap.

 

 

 

[Floridatech]

6 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

The topic of private schools  is one that interests many. Why have private schools become so dominant in certain areas of the state and country?  When I see a state like CA  in which 10/25 top-ranked schools are private, it makes me ask "why?" 

I suggest some possibilities above based on the data,  ie academics and resources.   I am not a private school homer, but am tired of the lame, ancient excuse of "they recruit" as the only reason.  That excuse doesn't hold as much water nowadays as transfer rules have changed.

The data above is what it is.  It is not intended to make anyone look bad.  The fact that certain "minority" schools have lower academic scores is not a negative reflection on minorities, themselves.  If anything, it is a negative reflection on our society as a whole.

We have inner city schools in Miami-Dade that have had tremendous success on the field despite overwhelming odds.  Inner city schools in TX and CA have not shared the same success.   The Los Angeles football scene has been taken over by private schools...not Miami-Dade.  That is a feather in our cap.

 

 

 

Look at STA there is more blacks than what they are saying there are

[BrowardHandicapper]

5 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Publics in the state of Florida are extremely underfunded 

 

The publics that get the most support are schools in areas full of million dollar type of donors (Bartram Trail, Ponte Vedra) those type of schools are rich like crazy 

“Rich like crazy”...Really?

Those schools could not afford the light bills at Texas public school stadiums.

[DisabledAccount]

4 minutes ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

“Rich like crazy”...Really?

Those schools could not afford the light bills at Texas public school stadiums.

Rich like crazy compared to most publics in the state of Florida yes

 

Bartram trail stadium is at least the size of ours and they only been around since 2000

 

We had to get county to tax to pay for our stadium and at time we were only high school in the county

 

St John's county already had plenty of high schools so you know if they were able to get that passed that the people in that county are rich

[OldSchoolLion]

20 minutes ago, Zoe Boy said:

Ok since you want to go there ,demographically does all schools public wise get same support compare to other schools let say a Cypress Bay vs Dillard funding wise?

When we see public schools struggling academically due to low teacher pay and teachers being laid off across the country due to budget shortfalls, it's not a stretch to say that some of those same schools are struggling with resources for their football programs.

It's one thing if a kid and/or his family has it in his heart to attend a certain private school.  What I see today are some kids bypassing their local public schools because, for whatever reason, they are not getting what they need in the classroom and/or the playing field.  

So, we get kids going to college prep school who years ago would not be considered "college material."  They are passed through the system and some wash out in college due to grades and/or they get in trouble because they are not socially prepared for the college environment.   

I realize Texas is an extreme example, but it does show us that a state can have good success in the classroom and field with its public schools.  That was one reason for sharing the data.  If Texas can do it, why not Florida?  That is what we need to figure out.  

[OldSchoolLion]

10 minutes ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

“Rich like crazy”...Really?

Those schools could not afford the light bills at Texas public school stadiums.

There is one dirty little secret in Texas.  Some of their school districts have taken on big debt to finance those big stadiums and are "living above their means."  The bubble will eventually burst and it will be very ugly.    

[DisabledAccount]

5 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

When we see public schools struggling academically due to low teacher pay and teachers being laid off across the country due to budget shortfalls, it's not a stretch to say that some of those same schools are struggling with resources for their football programs.

It's one thing if a kid and/or his family has it in his heart to attend a certain private school.  What I see today are some kids bypassing their local public schools because, for whatever reason, they are not getting what they need in the classroom and/or the playing field.  

So, we get kids going to college prep school who years ago would not be considered "college material."  They are passed through the system and some wash out in college due to grades and/or they get in trouble because they are not socially prepared for the college environment.   

I realize Texas is an extreme example, but it does show us that a state can have good success in the classroom and field with its public schools.  That was one reason for sharing the data.  If Texas can do it, why not Florida?  That is what we need to figure out.  

Texas puts heavy money into their public schools 

 

So does GA 

 

 

FL puts basically nothing into public schools. The legislation of this state are idiots 

[DisabledAccount]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolLion said:

There is one dirty little secret in Texas.  Some of their school districts have taken on big debt to finance those big stadiums and are "living above their means."  The bubble will eventually burst and it will be very ugly.    

Well they won't tear the stadium down,  already too much money invested, the cost cutting will come elsewhere 

 

Or They will raise taxes more to stay afloat 

[OldSchoolLion]

2 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Texas puts heavy money into their public schools 

 

So does GA 

 

 

FL puts basically nothing into public schools. The legislation of this state are idiots 

Anyone on here who has lived in another state may realize how spoiled we are in Florida.  The average property tax in Austin Texas is $7500.  Or imagine paying over 5% of your salary to the state like many folks around the country do.

I know this stuff as not nearly as exciting as talking about the new kid who is transferring, but if we do not educate ourselves, things in Florida may only get worse with our hs football programs.  And things can get worse.  I thought ya'll might like to see the data from CA above because it shows that FL is not the king of private school football programs. 

 

 

[DisabledAccount]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Anyone on here who has lived in another state may realize how spoiled we are in Florida.  The average property tax in Austin Texas is $7500.  Or imagine paying over 5% of your salary to the state like many folks around the country do.

I know this stuff as not nearly as exciting as talking about the new kid who is transferring, but if we do not educate ourselves, things in Florida may only get worse with our hs football programs.  And things can get worse.  I thought ya'll might like to see the data from CA above because it shows that FL is not the king of private school football programs. 

 

 

I would be ok paying a little more for better PUBLIC schools 

 

Problem is knowing people running the state they gonna throw money to schools like IMG or a private school like Bolles or St Thomas Aquinas  because the people in power have a kid going there

 

These rich privates and academies don't need our tax dollars they have plenty of money already 

 

These public schools are heavily underfunded and it's obvious just by looking at how schools have to use out of date equipment just because they can't afford better equipment 

 

I've seen it before my eyes

[OldSchoolLion]

this article is a bit dated but shows some actual figures related to FL hs athletic budgets

"Since the fall, 157 Florida high schools have changed football coaches. That's the most in the 20 years LRS Sports' Dwight Thomas has been tracking turnover. Only 34 of the Tampa Bay area's 77 football schools have had the same coach for three full seasons. Sixteen of them have had at least three coaches since 2008."

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/footballpreps/tight-budgets-skimpy-stipends-plague-high-school-athletic-programs/2131325

 

[DisabledAccount]

Just now, OldSchoolLion said:

this article is a bit dated but shows some actual figures related to FL hs athletic budgets

"Since the fall, 157 Florida high schools have changed football coaches. That's the most in the 20 years LRS Sports' Dwight Thomas has been tracking turnover. Only 34 of the Tampa Bay area's 77 football schools have had the same coach for three full seasons. Sixteen of them have had at least three coaches since 2008."

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/footballpreps/tight-budgets-skimpy-stipends-plague-high-school-athletic-programs/2131325

 

It's funny that the state claims there is no money for education yet is willing to throw tons of cash the way of IMG 

 

Money is there,  they just choose to not give it to public school systems

[BrowardHandicapper]

How much money is generated off Texas HS football versus FL HS football?

 

[DisabledAccount]

Just now, BrowardHandicapper said:

How much money is generated off Texas HS football versus FL HS football?

 

I'm sure they generate millions more

 

Stadiums they have plus actually filling them goes a long way in a hurry 

[OldSchoolLion]

5 minutes ago, BrowardHandicapper said:

How much money is generated off Texas HS football versus FL HS football?

 

The vast majority of Texas school districts LOSE money on football-big money.  Here are actual figures from several years ago.

Football expenses and revenue for area school districts
School districts budget for football every year. Few earn money back. Here’s how area districts stack up.
District	Revenue total	Expense total	Net	Per school per year revenue	Per school per year expenses	Per school per year net	Revenue rank	Expense rank	Net rank
Highland Park	$2,808,918.00	$1,995,626.00	$813,292.00	$561,783.60	$399,125.20	$162,658.40	1	2	1
Coppell	$1,336,028.97	$920,488.03	$415,540.94	$267,205.79	$184,097.61	$83,108.19	3	23	2
HEB	$2,162,687.15	$1,818,896.15	$343,791.00	$216,268.72	$181,889.62	$34,379.1	5	24	3
Carroll	$1,370,459.99	$1,503,172.60	$-132,712.61	$274,091.99	$300,634.52	$-26,542.52	2	5	4
GCISD	$1,415,029.24	$1,777,861.32	$-362,832.08	$141,502.92	$177,786.13	$-36,283.21	7	25	5
Keller	$1,653,110.00	$2,591,277.24	$-938,167.24	$94,463.43	$148,072.99	$-53,609.56	15	29	6
Denton	$1,352,931.21	$2,213,294.02	$-860,362.81	$90,195.41	$147,552.93	$-57,357.52067	19	30	7
Garland	$2,091,269.02	$5,263,956.00	$-3,172,686.98	$59,750.54343	$150,398.74	$-90,648.20	25	28	8
Northwest	$1,025,703.20	$1,598,936.02	$-573,232.82	$170,950.53	$266,489.34	$-95,538.80	6	9	9
Ennis	$613,870.00	$1,099,652.00	$-485,782.00	$122,774	$219,930.40	$-97,156.40	10	12	10
Dallas	$2,380,502.00	$13,302,387.00	$-10,921,885.00	$21,640.93	$120,930.79	$-99,289.86	31	31	11
Lake Dallas	$222,788.00	$669,521.00	$-446,733.00	$55,697	$167,380.25	$-111,683.25	27	26	12
Celina	$657,745.91	$1,237,300.52	$-579,554.61	$131,549.18	$247,460.10	$-115,910.92	8	10	13
Grand Prairie	$715,772.91	$1,887,271.00	$-1,171,498.09	$71,577.29	$188,727.10	$-117,149.81	23	22	14
Mesquite	$2,081,144.46	$5,071,945.00	$-2,990,800.54	$83,245.78	$202,877.80	$-119,632.02	20	19	15
Richardson	$1,857,302.17	$4,302,747.67	$-2,445,445.50	$92,865.11	$215,137.38	$-122,272.28	16	15	16
Wylie	$990,897.60	$2,226,793.46	$-1,235,895.86	$99,089.76	$222,679.35	$-123,589.59	12	11	17
Red Oak	$333,497.56	$965,455.32	$-631,957.76	$66,699.51	$193,091.06	$-126,391.55	24	21	18
Irving	$1,121,208.70	$3,047,625.68	$-1,926,416.98	$74,747.25	$203,175.05	$-128,427.80	22	18	19
Arlington	$2,731,643.79	$6,591,345.35	$-3,859,701.56	$91,054.79	$219,711.51	$-128,656.72	17	13	20
Lewisville	$1,594,564.94	$4,186,704.04	$-2,592,139.10	$79,728.25	$209,335.20	$-129,606.96	21	17	21
Lancaster	$46,588.00	$321,516.00	$-274,928.00	$23,294	$160,758	$-137,464	30	27	22
Frisco	$1,367,330.21	$4,944,704.01	$-3,577,373.80	$59,449.14	$214,987.13	$-155,537.99	26	16	23
Forney	$145,940.00	$779,691.00	$-633,751.00	$36,576.44	$195,411.28	$-158,834.84	29	20	24
CFB	$1,034,945.00	$4,307,970.00	$-3,273,025.00	$51,747.25	$215,398.5	$-163,651.25	28	14	25
Lovejoy	$291,942.09	$809,166.22	$-517,224.13	$97,314.03	$269,722.07	$-172,408.04	14	8	26
Midlothian	$565,024.81	$1,439,923.29	$-874,898.48	$113,004.96	$287,984.66	$-174,979.70	11	7	27
Plano	$3,643,635.59	$6,635,665.16	$-2,992,029.57	$242,909.04	$442,377.68	$-199,468.64	4	1	28
McKinney	$1,365,054.59	$4,498,394.81	$-3,133,340.22	$91,003.63933	$299,892.99	$-208,889.35	18	6	29
Rockwall	$984,586.97	$3,134,068.90	$-2,149,481.93	$98,458.70	$313,406.89	$-214,948.19	13	4	30
DeSoto	$640,684.40	$1,721,287.12	$-1,080,602.72	$128,136.88	$344,257.42	$-216,120.54	9	3	31

 

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1 minute ago, OldSchoolLion said:

The vast majority of Texas school districts LOSE money on football-big money.  Here are actual figures from several years ago.

Football expenses and revenue for area school districts
School districts budget for football every year. Few earn money back. Here’s how area districts stack up.
District	Revenue total	Expense total	Net	Per school per year revenue	Per school per year expenses	Per school per year net	Revenue rank	Expense rank	Net rank
Highland Park	$2,808,918.00	$1,995,626.00	$813,292.00	$561,783.60	$399,125.20	$162,658.40	1	2	1
Coppell	$1,336,028.97	$920,488.03	$415,540.94	$267,205.79	$184,097.61	$83,108.19	3	23	2
HEB	$2,162,687.15	$1,818,896.15	$343,791.00	$216,268.72	$181,889.62	$34,379.1	5	24	3
Carroll	$1,370,459.99	$1,503,172.60	$-132,712.61	$274,091.99	$300,634.52	$-26,542.52	2	5	4
GCISD	$1,415,029.24	$1,777,861.32	$-362,832.08	$141,502.92	$177,786.13	$-36,283.21	7	25	5
Keller	$1,653,110.00	$2,591,277.24	$-938,167.24	$94,463.43	$148,072.99	$-53,609.56	15	29	6
Denton	$1,352,931.21	$2,213,294.02	$-860,362.81	$90,195.41	$147,552.93	$-57,357.52067	19	30	7
Garland	$2,091,269.02	$5,263,956.00	$-3,172,686.98	$59,750.54343	$150,398.74	$-90,648.20	25	28	8
Northwest	$1,025,703.20	$1,598,936.02	$-573,232.82	$170,950.53	$266,489.34	$-95,538.80	6	9	9
Ennis	$613,870.00	$1,099,652.00	$-485,782.00	$122,774	$219,930.40	$-97,156.40	10	12	10
Dallas	$2,380,502.00	$13,302,387.00	$-10,921,885.00	$21,640.93	$120,930.79	$-99,289.86	31	31	11
Lake Dallas	$222,788.00	$669,521.00	$-446,733.00	$55,697	$167,380.25	$-111,683.25	27	26	12
Celina	$657,745.91	$1,237,300.52	$-579,554.61	$131,549.18	$247,460.10	$-115,910.92	8	10	13
Grand Prairie	$715,772.91	$1,887,271.00	$-1,171,498.09	$71,577.29	$188,727.10	$-117,149.81	23	22	14
Mesquite	$2,081,144.46	$5,071,945.00	$-2,990,800.54	$83,245.78	$202,877.80	$-119,632.02	20	19	15
Richardson	$1,857,302.17	$4,302,747.67	$-2,445,445.50	$92,865.11	$215,137.38	$-122,272.28	16	15	16
Wylie	$990,897.60	$2,226,793.46	$-1,235,895.86	$99,089.76	$222,679.35	$-123,589.59	12	11	17
Red Oak	$333,497.56	$965,455.32	$-631,957.76	$66,699.51	$193,091.06	$-126,391.55	24	21	18
Irving	$1,121,208.70	$3,047,625.68	$-1,926,416.98	$74,747.25	$203,175.05	$-128,427.80	22	18	19
Arlington	$2,731,643.79	$6,591,345.35	$-3,859,701.56	$91,054.79	$219,711.51	$-128,656.72	17	13	20
Lewisville	$1,594,564.94	$4,186,704.04	$-2,592,139.10	$79,728.25	$209,335.20	$-129,606.96	21	17	21
Lancaster	$46,588.00	$321,516.00	$-274,928.00	$23,294	$160,758	$-137,464	30	27	22
Frisco	$1,367,330.21	$4,944,704.01	$-3,577,373.80	$59,449.14	$214,987.13	$-155,537.99	26	16	23
Forney	$145,940.00	$779,691.00	$-633,751.00	$36,576.44	$195,411.28	$-158,834.84	29	20	24
CFB	$1,034,945.00	$4,307,970.00	$-3,273,025.00	$51,747.25	$215,398.5	$-163,651.25	28	14	25
Lovejoy	$291,942.09	$809,166.22	$-517,224.13	$97,314.03	$269,722.07	$-172,408.04	14	8	26
Midlothian	$565,024.81	$1,439,923.29	$-874,898.48	$113,004.96	$287,984.66	$-174,979.70	11	7	27
Plano	$3,643,635.59	$6,635,665.16	$-2,992,029.57	$242,909.04	$442,377.68	$-199,468.64	4	1	28
McKinney	$1,365,054.59	$4,498,394.81	$-3,133,340.22	$91,003.63933	$299,892.99	$-208,889.35	18	6	29
Rockwall	$984,586.97	$3,134,068.90	$-2,149,481.93	$98,458.70	$313,406.89	$-214,948.19	13	4	30
DeSoto	$640,684.40	$1,721,287.12	$-1,080,602.72	$128,136.88	$344,257.42	$-216,120.54	9	3	31

 

That looks like good data but i can't read that chart on my phone lol

 

Can you give me a gist of it?