Columbia Suspensions

[DisabledAccount]

4 minutes ago, badbird said:

I would say a good chance that is what happened and then after complaint coaches decided to suspend players after talking to admin 

So if they just saw Twitter footage after the fact then why would the fan have been "scared for their life" if they were already safely out of Stadium before seeing it? 

 

[badbird]

Just now, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

So if they just saw Twitter footage after the fact then why would the fan have been "scared for their life" if they were already safely out of Stadium before seeing it? 

 

because who ever wrote it is a piece of shit and I hope Karma is waiting for them

[badbird]

and lets be honest it didn't necessarily come from a Fletcher fan.  you have lots of enemies that saw the entrance

[DisabledAccount]

4 minutes ago, badbird said:

coolest entrance ever.  Would have been better if it was on Halloween night.  Kids don't deserve to be suspended and adults should be ashamed of themselves.  If they did it without permission maybe run some hills but the coaches had to see them before they went out and could have probably stopped it if they thought it was a big deal  

According to LCR he saw it once they were lined up in tunnel and he was putting on headset on sideline 

 

[badbird]

3 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

According to LCR he saw it once they were lined up in tunnel and he was putting on headset on sideline 

 

so are you telling me no coaches were with the kids.  That might be a bigger problem 

[DisabledAccount]

3 minutes ago, badbird said:

so are you telling me no coaches were with the kids.  That might be a bigger problem 

In the tunnel no

 

Only players run out of tunnel

 

Coaches are on sideline by that time 

[1mustangW]

Wonder if ocoee will face any consequences after their entrance this week.

[DisabledAccount]

10 minutes ago, 1mustangW said:

Wonder if ocoee will face any consequences after their entrance this week.

Well no fhsaa rules against the entrance so it depends on if the school was ok with it

[badbird]

9 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Well no fhsaa rules against the entrance so it depends on if the school was ok with it

or do they have an admin that caves in to complaints

[DisabledAccount]

4 minutes ago, badbird said:

or do they have an admin that caves in to complaints

How many times do i need to explain it

 

We didn't cave in to some random Fletcher fan,  they can send that letter to fhsaa 30 times and the same amount of action will be taken each time,  nothing 

 

Coach suspended the players to get them in line,  I was around these coaches for 3 years out there. Coach Allen doesn't play with foolishness and I've seen him punish players for a heck of a lot less 

 

He's benched players for a entire game just for being late to meetings or pregame meal so trust me when i say he didn't cave.  It was his choice 

[badbird]

2 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

How many times do i need to explain it

 

We didn't cave in to some random Fletcher fan,  they can send that letter to fhsaa 30 times and the same amount of action will be taken each time,  nothing 

 

Coach suspended the players to get them in line,  I was around these coaches for 3 years out there. Coach Allen doesn't play with foolishness and I've seen him punish players for a heck of a lot less 

 

He's benched players for a entire game just for being late to meetings or pregame meal so trust me when i say he didn't cave.  It was his choice 

When did I ever mention the Fhsaa.  You keep bringing that up.  You know nothing of what he did.  Neither do I.  I believe he caved in.

[DisabledAccount]

17 minutes ago, badbird said:

When did I ever mention the Fhsaa.  You keep bringing that up.  You know nothing of what he did.  Neither do I.  I believe he caved in.

You mentioned the letter which was sent to the fhsaa

 

The letter wasn't sent to Columbia high School as a complaint, it was sent to the fhsaa obviously by someone who knows nothing about their jurisdiction otherwise they would have known they wrote a 8 page letter that likely got thrown in junk mail pile over at fhsaa offices in Gainesville 

 

I've talked to several people at Columbia and not one person mentioned the letter,  the first i heard of any letter actually came on the duval city facebook page the day after the suspensions were announced 

 

 

No i wasn't in the building but Ik the coaches at Columbia far more than you and I've known Coach Allen for 4 years and a half years now and if i know one thing for sure about him it's that he isn't the type of person to cave to one random fan writing a complaint letter,  he runs a tight ship out there and that letter had nothing to do with the decision to suspend the 4 players, just because it wasn't announced until Tuesday don't mean the decision wasn't made sooner

 

At Columbia they don't go have any LCR coverage until Tuesday because they never have a reporter out at practice on Monday because Monday is conditioning/film day

 

Tuesday is first day of the week that they do real contact practice and as a result the suspensions wouldn't have started to get out there in the media or fanbase until Tuesday which is when this stuff started to get attention 

[badbird]

So you feel if there was no letter there still would have been suspensions?  Do you know with 100 percent certainty the letter wasn't also sent to Columbia admin?  Do you think the FHSAA if they get a complaint just sit on it or do you think they send it to the school and let them handle it?

most high school coaches do not announce suspensions.  No ones business and it stays in house.  How many suspensions have there been in the past 4 years and how many were told to the paper before the game?  You said he suspends kids all the time.  I'm willing to bet most stayed in house and didn't get leaked to the paper.

Here is what appears happened.  There was a complaint.  Head coach got pressure from admin or was told by admin to do something.  Head coach announces suspensions so people are aware the school did something.  HE CAVED IN     

[DisabledAccount]

1 minute ago, badbird said:

So you feel if there was no letter there still would have been suspensions?  Do you know with 100 percent certainty the letter wasn't also sent to Columbia admin?  Do you think the FHSAA if they get a complaint just sit on it or do you think they send it to the school and let them handle it?

most high school coaches do not announce suspensions.  No ones business and it stays in house.  How many suspensions have there been in the past 4 years and how many were told to the paper before the game?  You said he suspends kids all the time.  I'm willing to bet most stayed in house and didn't get leaked to the paper.

Here is what appears happened.  There was a complaint.  Head coach got pressure from admin or was told by admin to do something.  Head coach announces suspensions so people are aware the school did something.  HE CAVED IN     

Yes, it just wouldn't have been known to people outside of Lake City. Only thing the letter did was make it a statewide story

 

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Not 100%, i would say 90% certainly 

 

For the fact that none of the people i spoke to at Columbia even mentioned a letter makes me think they made decision prior to letter becoming public

 

Usually a detail like that wouldn't have been completely excluded from everyone I've spoke to at Columbia 

 

 

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They would if it was actually a issue worth addressing, the letter was barely credible because of various reasons which I've stated earlier in the thread and you even to some degree agreed with

 

 

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Here's the thing with small town paper's 

 

Even if the coaches stay quiet there will always be someone else who will leak it,  the players tell their parents and those parents share it around and before you know it the LCR has the info and will go and verify it

 

Coach Allen refused to announce who was suspended but he couldn't hide the fact that there was suspensions and i guess since there is only 2 schools in Columbia County the LCR needed something to fill the sports page 

 

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I did and in most cases it usually doesn't make the paper however sometimes the LCR manages to get their hands on the story 

 

For example it was reported that our qb 2 years ago was going to be benched indefinitely because of team rules violation, it's not very easy to hide that your star qb was being benched

 

Stuff like that becomes news no matter how hard they try to cover it up

 

 

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I'm sure the athletic director and admins were probably unhappy with the fake swords as was Coach Allen so perhaps they suggested that they be punished but that is still more likely then Coach Allen caving in to some random fan letter but based on what i read in the LCR about the situation which included a conversation the LCR had with Coach Allen about the issue and my personal experiences with him I could honestly see him suspending them with or without the letter

 

As i said, he's had players suspended/benched for a lot less in the past

 

 

[badbird]

3 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

 

I'm sure the athletic director and admins were probably unhappy with the fake swords as was Coach Allen so perhaps they suggested that they be punished but that is still more likely then Coach Allen caving in to some random fan letter but based on what i read in the LCR about the situation which included a conversation the LCR had with Coach Allen about the issue and my personal experiences with him I could honestly see him suspending them with or without the letter

 

 

 

Could the letter have made the admin suggest they be punished?  and then the Coach did it to appease the admin. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It all stated with the letter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No letter, no suspension.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sticking with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CAVED IN

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DisabledAccount]

1 minute ago, badbird said:

Could the letter have made the admin suggest they be punished?  and then the Coach did it to appease the admin. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It all stated with the letter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No letter, no suspension.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sticking with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CAVED IN

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can believe whatever you choose to badbirdy

 

I'm just trying to make sure you have the right info

 

I can't control if you choose to believe it or not 

[DisabledAccount]

And based on what i read he planned to punish them for the swords way before the letter

 

 

So no the letter didn't cause the players to be punished,  that was already going to happen 

 

It just happened to be that the letter became public around same time as the suspensions did

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Don't you have more valuable stuff to do with your free time bad birdy?  LMAO 

[1mustangW]

1 hour ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Yes, it just wouldn't have been known to people outside of Lake City. Only thing the letter did was make it a statewide story

 

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Not 100%, i would say 90% certainly 

 

For the fact that none of the people i spoke to at Columbia even mentioned a letter makes me think they made decision prior to letter becoming public

 

Usually a detail like that wouldn't have been completely excluded from everyone I've spoke to at Columbia 

 

 

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They would if it was actually a issue worth addressing, the letter was barely credible because of various reasons which I've stated earlier in the thread and you even to some degree agreed with

 

 

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Here's the thing with small town paper's 

 

Even if the coaches stay quiet there will always be someone else who will leak it,  the players tell their parents and those parents share it around and before you know it the LCR has the info and will go and verify it

 

Coach Allen refused to announce who was suspended but he couldn't hide the fact that there was suspensions and i guess since there is only 2 schools in Columbia County the LCR needed something to fill the sports page 

 

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I did and in most cases it usually doesn't make the paper however sometimes the LCR manages to get their hands on the story 

 

For example it was reported that our qb 2 years ago was going to be benched indefinitely because of team rules violation, it's not very easy to hide that your star qb was being benched

 

Stuff like that becomes news no matter how hard they try to cover it up

 

 

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I'm sure the athletic director and admins were probably unhappy with the fake swords as was Coach Allen so perhaps they suggested that they be punished but that is still more likely then Coach Allen caving in to some random fan letter but based on what i read in the LCR about the situation which included a conversation the LCR had with Coach Allen about the issue and my personal experiences with him I could honestly see him suspending them with or without the letter

 

As i said, he's had players suspended/benched for a lot less in the past

 

 

Maybe people at Columbia just don’t want to tell a random alumnus inside information because you have no real connection to the program. 

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39 minutes ago, 1mustangW said:

Maybe people at Columbia just don’t want to tell a random alumnus inside information because you have no real connection to the program. 

Or maybe the entire assumptions being made are 100% false 

 

And i ain't some damn random alumni

 

You don't have random alumni of a high school that have spent thousands of hours around a program in the past 4 years,  the average alumni may show up 3 hours a week for a few home games

 

So yeah not some random alumni 

[badbird]

1 hour ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Don't you have more valuable stuff to do with your free time bad birdy?  LMAO 

My work is done for the weekend.  time to Cave In