St Thomas vs Public Schools

[OldSchoolLion]

I share this simply to demonstrate that St Thomas is beatable, even in sports where they excel...and even by "local" teams.  These are playoff results of major team sports over the past two seasons, including public school teams that knocked a ST Thomas Aquinas squad out of the playoffs during that time frame.  Yes, it is tougher to pull together a great football team than it is a basketball team with only 5 starters.  On the flip side, if St Thomas recruits as heavily as some accuse them, one would think it would not be that difficult for them to win more state titles than they are.       

2018/2019

WON  vs Plant (girls volleyball) state final

LOST vs Tampa Bay Tech (girls basketball) state final

LOST vs Ft Lauderdale (boys soccer) region final

LOST vs Lakeland (football) state final

 

2017/2018

LOST vs Venice (girls volleyball) state semi

LOST vs Nova (girls basketball) region final

LOST vs Cooper City (softball) region final

LOST vs South Broward (boys soccer) second round

LOST vs Venice (football) state semi

LOST vs Dwyer (boys basketball) first round

WON vs Sarasota (baseball) state final

 

[Perspective]

Just curious, how many of those game were state championship title games?

[DisabledAccount]

2 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

I share this simply to demonstrate that St Thomas is beatable, even in sports where they excel...and even by "local" teams.  These are playoff results of major team sports over the past two seasons, including public school teams that knocked a ST Thomas Aquinas squad out of the playoffs during that time frame.  Yes, it is tougher to pull together a great football team than it is a basketball team with only 5 starters.  On the flip side, if St Thomas recruits as heavily as some accuse them, one would think it would not be that difficult for them to win more state titles than they are.       

2018/2019

WON  vs Plant (girls volleyball)

LOST vs Tampa Bay Tech (girls basketball)

LOST vs Ft Lauderdale (boys soccer)

LOST vs Lakeland (football)

 

2017/2018

LOST vs Venice (girls volleyball)

LOST vs Nova (girls basketball)

LOST vs Cooper City (softball)

LOST vs South Broward (boys soccer)

LOST vs Venice (football)

LOST vs Dwyer (boys basketball)

WON vs Sarasota (baseball)

 

Honestly if you look at STA Football it's not always the idea they have more talent in lineup (there are several schools in FL with a better starting lineup in football)

 

It's the depth where they have a edge as they may arguably be the deepest team in Broward county even if not the best in terms of the starting 22 

[DisabledAccount]

1 hour ago, Perspective said:

Just curious, how many of those game were state championship title games?

Not sure off top of my head but I think all those games are either final 4 or finals

[Perspective]

12 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Not sure off top of my head but I think all those games are either final 4 or finals

Ok, so assuming the games listed are "Final Four" games, that pretty remarkable that over a two-year period, a single school would have three girls teams (volleyball, basketball and softball) and four boys teams (football, soccer, basketball and baseball) making it that far.  And, based on my recollection, the last two years is not an aberration.   The overwhelming majority of public schools would be lucky to have one or two (or, in a very, very good year, three) teams make it that far. 

The only way to win a state title is to make it to the championship game.  STA appears to get to this point more often than just about any other school in the state, regardless of classification.  State championship talent just doesn't show up at public schools year in and year out.  But, as your list demonstrates, getting to the final four and coming home with the gold medal are two different things. 

[THIS_IS_DILLARD]

59 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Not sure off top of my head but I think all those games are either final 4 or finals

The Venice Game wasn’t final the Dwyer game wasn’t the final 4 the nova game wasn’t the final 4 

[OldSchoolLion]

5 hours ago, Perspective said:

Ok, so assuming the games listed are "Final Four" games, that pretty remarkable that over a two-year period, a single school would have three girls teams (volleyball, basketball and softball) and four boys teams (football, soccer, basketball and baseball) making it that far.  And, based on my recollection, the last two years is not an aberration.   The overwhelming majority of public schools would be lucky to have one or two (or, in a very, very good year, three) teams make it that far. 

The only way to win a state title is to make it to the championship game.  STA appears to get to this point more often than just about any other school in the state, regardless of classification.  State championship talent just doesn't show up at public schools year in and year out.  But, as your list demonstrates, getting to the final four and coming home with the gold medal are two different things. 

 

5 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Not sure off top of my head but I think all those games are either final 4 or finals

6 of the 11 games in the original post were Final 4 games.  Check out the original post where I have clarified the round of each game.  No doubt St Thomas has an incredible athletic program.  Excluding football, in a number of cases, they could not get past a local foe to win their region.  Maybe I am wrong, but I wouldn't think it would be that difficult for St Thomas to actively recruit players in these other sports and ensure a trip beyond the region final..if they wanted to.