What Did 2018 8A Preseason Poll Look Like?

[OldSchoolLion]

1. Dr. Phillips (Orlando), Lost in 3rd round to Riverview 33-7
2. Columbus (Miami), 8A runner-up
3. Wekiva (Apopka), Lost in 3rd round to Mandarin 19-7
4. South Dade (Homestead), Lost in 3rd round to Columbus 54-28
5. Vero Beach, Lost in 2nd round to Dr Phillips 19-7
6. Deerfield Beach, Lost to Columbus in state semi 49-21
7. Apopka, Lost in 2nd round to Wekiva 28-7
8. Atlantic (Delray), Lost 1st round to Western 21-7
9. Osceola (Kissimmee), Lost 1st round to Manatee 28-17
10. Riverview (Sarasota), Lost in state semi to Mandarin 45-31

11. Not ranked:

    Mandarin-8A state champion

    Palm Beach Central-Region 3 runner-up

[OldSchoolLion]

-How about we not rank Vero this year so they can "overperform" come year's end?  Every year of late it seems they are highly ranked in the preseason, only to disappoint.

-Kowboys cannot make it past second round 3 years in a row.  Do they need to earn their way back into the rankings, especially top 5?

-Atlantic was one of the biggest "busts" of any class?  Will we be fooled again and rank them highly in 7A this year?

-Dr P and Columbus are two of the most  consistent programs of the past 10 years.  It's a safe bet to rank them.

-Deerfield Beach...we love to pick on them...but Region 3 is wide open for them to claim.  Atlantic, Miramar, Piper, Plantation, and Western all moved out.

-Plant moves up from 7A.  How can one not put them in the top 10 for 8A?  

[skyway]

The writers voting in these polls often have limited awareness of the player movement/transfers impacting teams in the immediate area they cover. Which should tell you they have absolutely no clue about player movement in other areas. All that is being considered is the name brand, how the team did last year and who graduated off that team. That was sufficient in years past. Now, such an approach renders the rankings meaningless. There's just far too much transferring and stacking of the deck, sometimes at places that have little to no history like Wekiva and Western.

[Pipe Dreams]

Too many people on the AP voting committee don’t put any effort into it.

Their preseason rankings are basically the previous season results plus teams with obviously loaded senior classes (see Wekiva last season).

The week 11 poll is basically a standings list. That’s the more interesting poll to extrapolate forward to playoff performance. I believe DP was unranked week 11 in 2016 and 2017 (8-2 both years, loaded schedule), and both years they made the title game (won in 17).

[skyway]

If I was a writer at some regional newspaper, I wouldn't put much effort into state rankings, either. Most of my time would necessarily be spent covering the local stories. Thankfully, the rankings have no real bearing on teams' seasons.

[Pipe Dreams]

If I didn’t have the time to put the effort in I wouldn’t be a part of it. I can see how regional representation could suffer without a voter in each area... but hey at least we have Josh. He does it right and represents all of the state’s regions well.

[Pipe Dreams]

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[muckboy561]

On 7/14/2019 at 9:40 AM, OldSchoolLion said:

-How about we not rank Vero this year so they can "overperform" come year's end?  Every year of late it seems they are highly ranked in the preseason, only to disappoint.

-Kowboys cannot make it past second round 3 years in a row.  Do they need to earn their way back into the rankings, especially top 5?

-Atlantic was one of the biggest "busts" of any class?  Will we be fooled again and rank them highly in 7A this year?

-Dr P and Columbus are two of the most  consistent programs of the past 10 years.  It's a safe bet to rank them.

-Deerfield Beach...we love to pick on them...but Region 3 is wide open for them to claim.  Atlantic, Miramar, Piper, Plantation, and Western all moved out.

-Plant moves up from 7A.  How can one not put them in the top 10 for 8A?  

Vero Beach is so overrated lol

[roygod]

2 hours ago, muckboy561 said:

Vero Beach is so overrated lol

Seeing that we beat all your Palm Beach County teams every year, and we are in the 2nd and 3rd round playoff's every year, and we are unbeaten every year in regular seasons, I don't know how you can say Vero Beach is overrated. And you can rate us this year as our schedule is even tougher. We haven't won a state title since the 1980's but maybe we will change that very soon, like maybe this year.

[561_Fan]

1 hour ago, roygod said:

Seeing that we beat all your Palm Beach County teams every year, and we are in the 2nd and 3rd round playoff's every year, and we are unbeaten every year in regular seasons, I don't know how you can say Vero Beach is overrated. And you can rate us this year as our schedule is even tougher. We haven't won a state title since the 1980's but maybe we will change that very soon, like maybe this year.

Whats the series record versus Pahokee...I know Vero won the last 2, but I think PK won the previous 2.

Vero just can't seem to gey over the hump in the playoffs