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OldSchoolLion

FL vs OOS Since 2004 - 115 Games

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Below are 115 of the most competitive games (at least what were believed to be at the time) from 2004 to present. 

The result...OOS teams 66 wins vs FL teams 49 wins   (FL private schools 14-13 and FL public schools 35-53)

Playing in FL, the FL teams below were 15-10.  Playing outside FL, the FL teams below were 34-56.

...about half of the losses came against teams from Georgia and DC/Maryland

Georgia 20  vs  Florida 11

DC/Maryland 11  vs  Florida 4     

New Jersey 5  vs  Florida 5

Alabama 6 vs Florida 3

 

South FL teams vs OOS   32-24

Central FL teams vs OOS   13-24

North FL teams vs OOS   4-18

 

Underlined below = home game for FL team

FL Wins

St Thomas Aquinas 9 vs St John Bosco (CA) 3 (OT)    2017

St Thomas Aquinas 38 vs Dematha(MD) 0     2018

St Thomas Aquinas 24 vs De LaSalle (CA) 14     2019

St Thomas Aquinas 30 vs De LaSalle (CA) 6

St Thomas Aquinas 27 vs John Curtis (LA) 13     2013

St Thomas Aquinas 34 vs Prattville (AL) 31     2014

St Thomas Aquinas 31 vs Skyline (TX) 3     2010

St Thomas Aquinas 42 vs Camden County (GA) 28     2010

St Thomas Aquinas 42 vs Byrnes(SC) 34     2009

St Thomas Aquinas 33 vs Bingham (UT) 25     2016     (neutral field)

St Thomas Aquinas 35 vs Elder (OH) 24    2008

Miami Central 24 vs Bishop Gorman (NV) 20     2017

Miami Central 24 vs Hoover (AL) 21     2014

Miami Central 50 vs Don Bosco(NJ) 21     2013

Miami Central 24 vs Elder(OH) 21     2011     (Central ultimately forfeited game)

Miami Central 49 vs Prattville(AL) 28     2010

Booker T Washington 57 vs Oscar Smith (VA) 21     2014

Booker T Washington 19 vs Tucker (GA) 7     2014

Booker T Washington 55 vs Norcorss (GA) 0     2013

Booker T Washington 28 vs Bishop Gorman (NV) 12     2013

Booker T Washington 40 vs Cedar Hill (TX) 21     2012

Booker T Washington 36 vs Summerville (SC) 3     2007

Booker T Washington 34 vs Bingham (UT) 28     2014

Cocoa 24 vs Abilene (TX) 21     2010

Cocoa 14 vs Olive Branch (MS) 7     2010

Cocoa 24 vs Bergen Catholic (NJ) 14     2012

American Heritage(PL) 17 vs Colquitt County (GA) 14     2016

American Heritage(PL) 21 vs Don Bosco (NJ) 0     2016

American Heritage(PL) 31 vs Liberty (NV) 0     2017

Manatee 39 vs Woodland Hills (PA) 16     2010

Manatee 44 vs Gilman (MD) 14     2013

Manatee 23 vs Friendship Collegiate (DC) 13     2013

Armwood 20 vs Bishop Gorman (NV) 17     2011

Plant 12 vs Bergen Catholic (NJ) 7     2011

Glades Central 6 vs Skyline (TX) 0     2010

Pahokee 34 vs Wayne Hills (NJ) 23 (game was ultimately forfeited by Pahokee)     2016

Viera 21 vs Gonzaga (DC) 6     2017

Vero Beach 28 vs Oscar Smith (VA) 21     2017

Wekiva 28 vs North Gwinnett (GA) 14     2018

Hallandale 34 vs Cedar Grove (GA) 26     2015

Deerfield Beach 19 vs Buford (GA) 14     2018

Lakeland 31 vs De LaSalle (CA) 30 (OT)     2009

Lakeland 35 vs Central Catholic (PA) 0     2008

Lakeland 25 vs St Xavier (OH) 22 (OT)     2006

Lincoln 24 vs Valdosta(GA) 21     2006

Lincoln 20 vs Valdosta(GA) 19     2005 

Madison County 29 vs Valdosta(GA) 28     2005

Madison County 15 vs Valdosta(GA) 7

Northwestern 29 vs Southlake Carroll(TX) 21     2007

 

OOS Wins

St Johns(DC) 52 vs Deerfield Beach 30     2019

St Johns(DC) 49 vs Orlando Jones 30     2017

St Johns 37(DC) vs Miami Central 34 (5OT)    2018

Gonzaga(DC) 33 vs American Heritage Plantation 14     2019

Gonzaga(DC) 17 vs Cocoa 14     2013

Gonzaga (DC) 31 vs Viera 19     2016

Dematha (MD) 23 vs American Heritage Plantation 22     2015

Dematha (MD) 38 vs Miami Central 14     2015

Dematha(MD) 26 vs Godby 9     2013

Our Lady of Good Counsel (MD) 24 vs Manatee 17 (2OT)     2011

St Frances(MD) 49 vs Miami Central 13     2019

North Gwinnett (GA) 26 Armwood 23 (OT)     2019

North Gwinnett (GA) 35 vs St Augustine 17     2011

Grayson (GA) 35 vs Miami Central 3     2012

Grayson (GA) 39 vs Deerfield Beach 14     2016

Camden County (GA) 45 vs Miami Central 42     2010

Colquitt County (GA) 42 vs Plant 8     2015

Colquitt County (GA) 20 vs Madison County 19     2011

Lowndes County (GA) 20 vs Plant 14     2014

Valdosta (GA) 35 vs Lincoln 31     2010

Valdosta (GA) 10 vs Lincoln 7     2011

Valdosta(GA) 21 vs Lincoln 17     2007

Valdosta(GA) 33 vs Lincoln 14     2004

Buford (GA) 17 vs Trinity Christian 0     2014

Marist (GA) 17 vs Godby 14     2014

Milton (GA) 42 vs Cardinal Gibbons 17     2018

Lee County (GA) 35 vs Dr Phillips 3    2018

Ware County (GA) 23 vs Manatee 7    2014

Coffee County (GA) 49 vs University Christian 28     2016

Coffee County(GA) 20 vs Madison County 19     2007

Cartersville (GA) 52 Bartram Trail 45     2017

St Joseph (NJ) 44 vs Deerfield Beach 21     2017

Bergen Catholic(NJ) 37 vs American Heritage(Delray) 7    2015

Don Bosco (NJ) 24 vs St Thomas Aquinas 7     2014

Don Bosco (NJ) 20 vs St Thomas Aquinas 10     2012

Don Bosco (NJ) 22 vs Manatee 16     2011

St Edward (OH) 24 vs Cocoa 14     2015

St Edward (OH) 47 vs Mainland 28     2015

St Edwards (OH) 14 vs Chaminade-Madonna 7     2006

Colerain (OH) 17 vs Cocoa 7     2011

Glenville (OH) 26 vs Dwyer 22     2010

Centennial (AZ) 12 vs St Thomas Aquinas 0     2017

Chandler (AZ) 37 vs BTW 19   2008

Chandler (AZ) 55 vs Northwestern 20     2017

Bishop Gorman (NV) 25 vs St Thomas Aquinas 24 (3 OT)    2016 

Bishop Gorman (NV) 46 vs Cocoa 10    2016

Archbishop Wood (PA) 14 vs Oxbridge Academy 13    2017

St Josephs (PA) 16 vs Cocoa 7     2012

West Monroe (LA) 21 vs Cocoa 6     2011

John Curtis (LA) 33 vs Plant 3     2017

Clay-Chalkville (AL) 44 vs Niceville 23     2014

Hoover (AL) 42 vs Manatee 21     2015

Hewitt-Trussville (AL) 78 vs Manatee 56    2016

Daphne(AL) 32 vs Pensacola 0     2005

Daphne(AL) 29 vs Lincoln 26     2005

Daphne(AL) 38 vs Lincoln 22     2006

Trinity (KY) 35 vs Cocoa 32     2014

Skyline (TX) 36 vs Cocoa 20     2011

Long Beach Poly(CA) 29 vs Northwestern 7     2008

Abilene (TX) 27 vs Plant 17     2010

Westview (TX) 66 vs Niceville 7     2017

Tyler Lee (TX) 34 vs Chaminade-Madonna 28     2005

Byrnes (SC) 51 vs Apopka 36     2013

Byrnes(SC) 38 vs Lincoln 0     2008

Byrnes(SC) 27 vs Glades Central 15     2006

Oscar Smith(VA) 27 vs Venice 13     2009

 

 

 

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Stop it Old School.  Columbiafan thinks Florida football is the best.  I'm sure facts won't change his mind.  We have the best talent but we don't have the best teams.  Coaching, community support, resources all play a key part.  Florida is way behind in those areas.

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17 minutes ago, KeemD321 said:

The season Cocoa lost to Colerain they also lost to Dallas Skyline and West Monroe.

They also lost to Hoover this season but the game was only competitive for a little over a quarter. Score was brought closer as the game was ending.

2011 Cocoa had a brutal schedule.  The Tigers have been one of the most brazen in the state when it comes to stretching the limits of scheduling.

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10 minutes ago, badbird said:

Stop it Old School.  Columbiafan thinks Florida football is the best.  I'm sure facts won't change his mind.  We have the best talent but we don't have the best teams.  Coaching, community support, resources all play a key part.  Florida is way behind in those areas.

So let me get this straight

 

FL has best overall talent on field at one time but not the best team

 

Last i checked how many fans show up don't determine how good a team is between the yardlines

 

 

Only one of the 3 factors you listed has any impact with on field product and that is coaching, it's not that FL don't produce good coaches, they just can't keep them here because the schools can't afford to pay them and I'm not getting into why but let's just say look at state legislation and use your imagination

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I've stated many times that states like GA and TX have far better support than FL so quit acting like I've ignored facts  @badbird

 

What I've argued and stand by is that in terms of talent on the field nobody is as good as FL, FL is the deepest state in terms of talent of any state in the country 

 

And if you want I'll gladly post sources to back those statements up

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You are crazy if you don’t think community support and resources don’t factor in.  So if a town is all crazy about football and every parent gets their kid to play it doesn’t help the school when they enter high school?  It increases the number of players and starting earlier will give them an advantage.

 

resources for equipment and training and diet make players reach their potential quicker.  Florida has a lot of raw talent not developed talent

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3 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

I've stated many times that states like GA and TX have far better support than FL so quit acting like I've ignored facts  @badbird

 

What I've argued and stand by is that in terms of talent on the field nobody is as good as FL, FL is the deepest state in terms of talent of any state in the country 

 

And if you want I'll gladly post sources to back those statements up

And you’ve never said Florida has the best teams?

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13 minutes ago, badbird said:

And you’ve never said Florida has the best teams?

In terms of talent on the field yes

 

Best teams isn't the same as best programs

 

Best teams would just be what performance you get on the field, best program also takes into account the community support, facilities, ect.

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13 minutes ago, badbird said:

So the only difference between Georgia and Florida is coaching but we have far superior talent yet they beat us more than we beat them.  More than just coaching a lot more than just coaching.  

Well I could also throw in how rare it is to see a GA team play in FL because we know how those GA officials call games involving FL schools

 

 

Plenty of home cooking in those matchups, especially South GA vs FL teams

 

 

Guarantee you MNW will be called for 200 yards of penalties while lowndes will be called for about 50 yards 

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3 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Well I could also throw in how rare it is to see a GA team play in FL because we know how those GA officials call games involving FL schools

 

 

Plenty of home cooking in those matchups, especially South GA vs FL teams

 

 

Guarantee you MNW will be called for 200 yards of penalties while lowndes will be called for about 50 yards 

9 of the 17 Georgia "wins" above were by more than 14 points.  That's arguably more than just home cookin' at play.  

Below are 14 games played in Florida versus out-of-state schools in the past decade(this is not an exhaustive list).  Florida was 12-2 and won by a combined score of 341-191.  A number of the OOS teams were nationally ranked.  Any chance schools coming to Florida think there is some home cookin when they visit us'?   Not that we should not have won some of these games, but 12-2 is awfully good going up against teams like these.

St Thomas Aquinas 9 vs St John Bosco (CA) 3 

St Thomas Aquinas 30 vs De La Salle(CA) 6

St Thomas Aquinas 42 vs Byrnes (SC) 34

St Thomas Aquinas 42 vs Camden County (GA) 28

American Heritage(PL) 21 vs Don Bosco (NJ) 0

American Heritage (PL) 31 vs Liberty (NV) 0

Dematha (MD) 23 vs American Heritage(PL) 22

Booker T 34 vs Bingham (UT) 28

Glades Central 6 vs Skyline (TX) 0

West Point (MS) 14 vs Mainland 0

Belle Glades Day 24 vs Twiggs County (GA) 12

Cocoa 14 vs Olive Branch (MS) 7

Pahokee 34 vs Wayne Hills (NJ) 23

Kissimee 32 vs Carson (CA) 13

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4 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

9 of the 17 Georgia "wins" above were by more than 14 points.  That's arguably more than just home cookin' at play.  

Below are 14 games played in Florida versus out-of-state schools in the past decade(this is not an exhaustive list).  Florida was 12-2 and won by a combined score of 341-191.  A number of the OOS teams were nationally ranked.  Any chance schools coming to Florida think there is some home cookin when they visit us'?   Not that we should not have won some of these games, but 12-2 is awfully good going up against teams like these.

St Thomas Aquinas 9 vs St John Bosco (CA) 3 

St Thomas Aquinas 30 vs De La Salle(CA) 6

St Thomas Aquinas 42 vs Byrnes (SC) 34

St Thomas Aquinas 42 vs Camden County (GA) 28

American Heritage(PL) 21 vs Don Bosco (NJ) 0

American Heritage (PL) 31 vs Liberty (NV) 0

Dematha (MD) 23 vs American Heritage(PL) 22

Booker T 34 vs Bingham (UT) 28

Glades Central 6 vs Skyline (TX) 0

West Point (MS) 14 vs Mainland 0

Belle Glades Day 24 vs Twiggs County (GA) 12

Cocoa 14 vs Olive Branch (MS) 7

Pahokee 34 vs Wayne Hills (NJ) 23

Kissimee 32 vs Carson (CA) 13

I saw highlights on that game recently, I thought it was a ESPN game so I may look into watching the full game sometime

 

Some could make that argument and some those games are close enough that i would want to look into finding a full replay to see if their claims were valid

 

There are other results up there that similarly to what you stated with GA would be too lopsided to be able to swing the result with home cooking

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20 of the 37 FL wins above were by one of three SFL teams.  In total, 26 of the 37 wins listed above, or 70%, were by SFL teams.  Love or hate them, if not for SFL teams, FL as a state would not have much to crow about on the national scene.  

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Of the 51 OOS wins above, FL schools scored 21 or more points only 18 times(35%).  And 2 of those 18 games were OT games, allowing 21 points to be met/exceeded.  With all of our speed and high-powered talent, it really surprises me that we could not routinely score more points, regardless of home field advantage.    

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6 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:

Damn straight. Some teams in general that never need to play another oos game

Cocoa 

Plant 

Lincoln 

Godby 

Niceville 

Absolutely . . . because the only reason why any Florida team should ever play an out-of-state game is so that folks on a message board can claim that the teams in their state are better than the teams in another state.   Forget that coaches might want to give their teams a challenge, might want to create a bonding experience and might actually want to give their kids a chance to get on an airplane and leave the town they grew up in for the first time.  

(And before you jump on the argument that they could find other teams in Florida to challenge them, remember that there are some counties that literally won't let their teams cross county lines unless it's a district game, a playoff game or an out-of-state game . . . and feel free to argue the logic of that line of thinking). 

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1 minute ago, Perspective said:

Absolutely . . . because the only reason why any Florida team should ever play an out-of-state game is so that folks on a message board can claim that the teams in their state are better than the teams in another state.   Forget that coaches might want to give their teams a challenge, might want to create a bonding experience and might actually want to give their kids a chance to get on an airplane and leave the town they grew up in for the first time.  

(And before you jump on the argument that they could find other teams in Florida to challenge them, remember that there are some counties that literally won't let their teams cross county lines unless it's a district game, a playoff game or an out-of-state game . . . and feel free to argue the logic of that line of thinking). 

I've always thought Hillsborough having that rule is a stupid rule to have

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