One of Louisiana top teams smashed by DFB

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Saw it was 53-0 DFB in 4th quarter over defending 5a champion from LA Zachary

 

 

 

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@THIS_IS_DILLARD

 

Believe I called this a few weeks ago lol

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Zachary would be the equivalent of a 5A school in FL.  Deerfield is an 8A school with a much greater population of talent from which to pull...Broward County's population is 4X that of East Baton Rouge parish, where Zachary is located.  

This would be like Grayson GA(big metro area) beating 5A Rockledge.  Some FL folks would likely claim unfair fight if that happened.

 

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21 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Zachary would be the equivalent of a 5A school in FL.  Deerfield is an 8A school with a much greater population of talent from which to pull...Broward County's population is 4X that of East Baton Rouge parish, where Zachary is located.  

This would be like Grayson GA(big metro area) beating 5A Rockledge.  Some FL folks would likely claim unfair fight if that happened.

 

Well to be fair DFB already lost to a school in 4a this year (Carol City)

 

So I don't think Zachary being a "smaller school" quite let's them off the hook for this, even as a smaller school Zachary is generally one of best LA has each year 

 

Just like John Curtis would be a 4a school in FL but many would favor John Curtis over most 8a schools in FL

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When you are a "top 10" level school in a state as talented as Louisiana it's isn't always about school size

 

John Curtis is argubly the strongest program in LA historically but would be a 4a school size wise in FL

 

But how many schools in FL would you comfortably say FL has that could beat them regardless of size

 

When you that good you can often times get around being a "smaller school"

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Other examples i could point to would be like a Brentwood Academy in TN who is probably best school in that state year to year but isn't even close to being one of the larger schools

 

 

Buford in GA another one who has beaten large schools both in GA and OOS in the past

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Well to be fair DFB already lost to a school in 4a this year (Carol City)

 

So I don't think Zachary being a "smaller school" quite let's them off the hook for this, even as a smaller school Zachary is generally one of best LA has each year 

 

Just like John Curtis would be a 4a school in FL but many would favor John Curtis over most 8a schools in FL

Big difference between a public school in Baton Rouge(Zachary) and a private school in New Orleans(John Curtis).  New Orleans metro area is over 1.5 times the size(population) of Baton Rouge.  So, John Curtis has a substantially larger pool to pull from and the "private school advantage."  Not taking away from DFB's win.  But I would not get too excited about it just yet. 

 

  

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Just now, OldSchoolLion said:

Big difference between a public school in Baton Rouge(Zachary) and a private school in New Orleans(John Curtis).  New Orleans metro area is over 1.5 times the size(population) of Baton Rouge.  So, John Curtis has a substantially larger pool to pull from and the "private school advantage."  Not taking away from DFB's win.  But I would not get too excited about it just yet. 

 

  

Ok that is a fair point 

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5 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

Other examples i could point to would be like a Brentwood Academy in TN who is probably best school in that state year to year but isn't even close to being one of the larger schools

 

 

Buford in GA another one who has beaten large schools both in GA and OOS in the past

 

 

Brentwood(Nashville) and Buford(Atlanta) are smaller schools in HUGE metro areas.  Brentwood is private and Buford may as well be the way they function.  They have huge talent pools from which to pull.  That makes a big difference.  It's like comparing Rockledge versus Miami Northwestern.  Both are 5A but...

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1 minute ago, OldSchoolLion said:

Brentwood(Nashville) and Buford(Atlanta) are smaller schools in HUGE metro areas.  Brentwood is private and Buford may as well be the way they function.  They have huge talent pools from which to pull.  That makes a big difference.  It's like comparing Rockledge versus Miami Northwestern.  Both are 5A but...

But one is in perhaps the deepest talent pool in FL and the other while being in a fast rising area is not gonna have the same level of talent pool as Miami

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10 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

But one is in perhaps the deepest talent pool in FL and the other while being in a fast rising area is not gonna have the same level of talent pool as Miami

That's my point.  It's not exactly apples-to-apples to compare Northwestern and Rockledge, is it?  There are several variables when comparing schools like we are doing...school size, local population/talent pool, private vs public, etc.  And when comparing OOS schools, one must look at things like transfer rules, ie FL vs a state with stricter transfer rules.

This is why it is difficult to find a fair fight for St Thomas...a relatively huge private school in a talent-laden area.  St Thomas is much bigger than a lot of private schools in the state and nationwide.  They are almost always going to have an advantage in at least one of the variables mentioned above, whether they are playing in-state or OOS.          

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Another thing to keep in mind when making comparisons with schools in states like Alabama, Mississippi, and Lousiana.    According to Maxpreps(FWIW), Zachary is the #12 team in Louisiana.  Deerfield Beach is the #14  team in FL.  Fair fight, right?  Not so fast.  

Louisina has 233 schools playing football in its 5 classes(see below).  That puts Zachary in approximately the 5th percentile of schools in LA.  The 5th percentile of schools in FL would be about #25.  If an OOS whooped our #25 team and some were crowing about it, I bet there are some on the Forum who would say "what's the big deal?"  

FL has over 4.5 times the population of Louisiana.  Simply by the law of #'s, talent being equal, FL is going to have way more good teams than Lousiana ever will.  In any one year, Louisiana might produce 5 really good teams, whereas FL might produce 20.  

So what's the point?  It's sometimes apples-to-oranges to use such OOS matchups to judge the talent of individual states.  From a population standpoint, FL dwarfs most states.  43 states have less than half the population of FL.  

5A 52 schools

4A 51 schools

3A 52 schools

2A 46 schools

1A 32 schools