Marginal Teams Who Made the Playoffs

[OldSchoolLion]

8A 

4-6 Coral Gables 

5-5 Taravella 

 

7A

5-5 Crestview 

5-4 Fort Lauderdale 

 

6A

4-6 Braden River 

 

5A

5-5 Suwannee

5-5 Nature Coast 

5-5 Key West 

 

4A

Gadsden 4-5

Astronaut 5-5

Cypress Creek 2-8

Lake Placid 4-6

Clewiston 5-5

Tampa Catholic 5-5

Lemon Bay 3-7

Carol City 5-5

Monsignor Pace 5-5

 

3A

TCA 5-5

Frostproof 5-5

MCC 3-6

1st Academy 4-5

Trinity Prep 5-5

Edison 5-5

 

2A

NFC 3-5

FL A&M 3-7

St Joseph 4-5

Trinity Christian 3-7

St Francis 3-7

Moore Haven 5-5

 

1A

Jay 4-6

Pt St Joe 4-6

Jefferson County 1-8

Union County 5-5

Trenton 5-5

Pahokee 4-5

 

[OldSchoolLion]

In 4A, 2-8 Cypress Creek and 3-7 Lemon Bay make it into the playoffs.  4A as a class is really weak.

[OldSchoolLion]

1-8 Jefferson County makes the 1A playoffs.  And they didn't even need a coin flip!

[DisabledAccount]

Just now, OldSchoolLion said:

1-8 Jefferson County makes the 1A playoffs.  And they didn't even need a coin flip!

That's what happens when you have a region that 2/3 of teams make the playoffs

 

Been saying for 2 years the small classes need to go to a North and South vs having 4 regions

 

 

Just not enough teams to justify 4 regions and no Districts

[badbird]

When BTW missed the playoffs a few years ago there fix was to go to 6 teams instead of 4 in each region.  Instead of fixing the issue they added more teams.  Now we get 0,1 and 2 win teams in the playoffs

 

If they stayed at 4 teams Trinity Christian one of the best two teams in 4A would be out.  

 

When your system says Trinity Christian is the 5th best team in 4A region 1 it is clearly broken

[DisabledAccount]

2 hours ago, badbird said:

When BTW missed the playoffs a few years ago there fix was to go to 6 teams instead of 4 in each region.  Instead of fixing the issue they added more teams.  Now we get 0,1 and 2 win teams in the playoffs

 

If they stayed at 4 teams Trinity Christian one of the best two teams in 4A would be out.  

 

When your system says Trinity Christian is the 5th best team in 4A region 1 it is clearly broken

But if they give too much favoring towards SOS you get what happened last year (Gadsden County making it in as 0-9)

 

There is no easy solution

[blackmagic]

4 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

1-8 Jefferson County makes the 1A playoffs.  And they didn't even need a coin flip!

How about Jefferson is really 2-8. They won against cottondale Friday. But guess what? It's not computed into the rpi. Because it was not entered on maxpreps. So every team that played them are impacted and every teams opponents are impacted. Example... Hawthorne is .002 from the 2 seed. This should have been added to their OWP but wasnt. Which may or may not have been enough to get the 2 seed.  That's difference of. .1111 or. .2222 which may have made up the .002 needed. 

[HornetFan]

6 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:

8A 

4-6 Coral Gables 

5-5 Taravella 

 

7A

5-5 Crestview 

5-4 Fort Lauderdale 

 

6A

4-6 Braden River 

 

5A

5-5 Suwannee 

5-5 Key West 

 

4A

Gadsden 4-5

Astronaut 5-5

Cypress Creek 2-8

Lake Placid 4-6

Clewiston 5-5

Tampa Catholic 5-5

Lemon Bay 3-7

Carol City 5-5

Monsignor Pace 5-5

 

3A

TCA 5-5

Frostproof 5-5

MCC 3-6

1st Academy 4-5

Trinity Prep 5-5

Edison 5-5

 

2A

NFC 3-5

FL A&M 3-7

St Joseph 4-5

Trinity Christian 3-7

St Francis 3-7

Moore Haven 5-5

 

1A

Jay 4-6

Pt St Joe 4-6

Jefferson County 1-8

Union County 5-5

Trenton 5-5

Pahokee 4-5

 

Nature Coast also made it in 5A with a 5-5 record, by virtue of giving Citrus (9-1) it's only loss in their district.

[badbird]

6 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

But if they give too much favoring towards SOS you get what happened last year (Gadsden County making it in as 0-9)

 

There is no easy solution

Use Pinkos

[gatorman-uf]

Question that we always have to ask, is it better to let some teams in that have no business being in the playoffs to ensure every team that has a realistic chance is in or better to limited the number of teams who could win  even if that means leaving one or 2 out.

I think 6 is too many in 1A-4A, I thought one the reasons they changed to six was because of the hurricane hitting panhandle last year

[OldSchoolLion]

Of the 8 5A-8A teams listed in the original post, only Nature Coast survived the first round.  

 

[FLABOY941]

I find it hard to see a team with a losing record make the playoffs but I understand that it's a numbers thing. These teams haven't earned to be there and it's really unfair but I understand that is the way it works.

[Cat_Scratch]

Well if you are a 1A or 2A team and the only schools in a 80 miles radius are 4A, 5A. 6A. 7A, and 8A teams you may lose a lot of games. In theory, having 6 classes would be best. Merge 1A and 2A, and 3A and 4A into 2 classes. That would help keep some of those losing teams out. Also run the new 1A and 2A like the rest of the playoff brackets.

Probably why it won't happen. The smaller schools will drop out and become independant teams. Also the FHSAA would lose out on cash, minus 2 gate in the championships. Not sure how much that would amount to but they got to pay themselves and the ref's somehow.

[KeemD321]

12 hours ago, Cat_Scratch said:

Well if you are a 1A or 2A team and the only schools in a 80 miles radius are 4A, 5A. 6A. 7A, and 8A teams you may lose a lot of games. In theory, having 6 classes would be best. Merge 1A and 2A, and 3A and 4A into 2 classes. That would help keep some of those losing teams out. Also run the new 1A and 2A like the rest of the playoff brackets.

Probably why it won't happen. The smaller schools will drop out and become independant teams. Also the FHSAA would lose out on cash, minus 2 gate in the championships. Not sure how much that would amount to but they got to pay themselves and the ref's somehow.

They could make a tournament for the independent teams during the playoffs. Have the champions from the independent teams that choose to participate to play each other. Kinda like the bowl championship series but for the independent teams.

[gatorman-uf]

4 hours ago, KeemD321 said:

They could make a tournament for the independent teams during the playoffs. Have the champions from the independent teams that choose to participate to play each other. Kinda like the bowl championship series but for the independent teams.

The teams do that for themselves already. Usually they have a 5-10 game regular season (depending on the conference) and have a semi-final and a final during "bowl game". 

[KeemD321]

5 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:

The teams do that for themselves already. Usually they have a 5-10 game regular season (depending on the conference) and have a semi-final and a final during "bowl game". 

I know I'm saying after they finish their conference finals. The winners of those can decide to play in the independent battle of champions against other conference champions if they choose to.