DISTRICT ALIGNMENT (2022)

[THIS_IS_DILLARD]

I hear that they’re suppose to be redoing the districts anyone know what month this suppose to take place 

[Ray Icaza]

Info I have gotten, it most likely will be the end of January.

[THIS_IS_DILLARD]

1 hour ago, Ray Icaza said:

Info I have gotten, it most likely will be the end of January.

Awesome, thanks.

[CoachMcG1]

If they are going to revamp the entire classification system, wouldn't that need Board approval?  If so, it wouldn't take place until after the Board meeting which is February 27-28.

[Dr. D]

The FHSAA "reclassifies" all teams on a 2-year cycle based on student enrollment.  The exception was last year when a 1-year reclassification was used because of the impact of the pandemic on school enrollment.  The upcoming reclassification will be for the 2022-23 and 2023-24 school years.  District assignments are then determined based on geographic factors, similar-sized districts, etc.  "Revamping" the classification system would indeed require Board approval.

[FBGUY1989]

3 hours ago, Dr. D said:

The FHSAA "reclassifies" all teams on a 2-year cycle based on student enrollment.  The exception was last year when a 1-year reclassification was used because of the impact of the pandemic on school enrollment.  The upcoming reclassification will be for the 2022-23 and 2023-24 school years.  District assignments are then determined based on geographic factors, similar-sized districts, etc.  "Revamping" the classification system would indeed require Board approval.

But we are still going through a pandemic so it would be interesting to see how it unfolds 

[Dr. D]

The Fall 2021 school enrollment report that reclassification will be based on is available on the FHSAA website.  Using the enrollment standards for the 2021 season, one can get a general idea of which classification a particular high school will fall into for the upcoming season.  A school near a cutoff line could move up (or down) when the new classifications are released.  District assignments are more difficult to predict. 

2021 Classifications:   8A: (2,356+);   7A: (1,924 – 2,355);   6A: (1,582 – 1,923);   5A: (1,137 – 1,581);   4A: (740 – 1,136);   3A: (361 -739);   2A: (360 & below);   1A: (600 & below and Rural Designation)

For example, Dillard reports a student enrollment of 1,955.  They are most likely to be classified as 7A, but there is a chance they could fall to 6A if the cutoff lines shift upward a bit.

[THIS_IS_DILLARD]

6 minutes ago, Dr. D said:

The Fall 2021 school enrollment report that reclassification will be based on is available on the FHSAA website.  Using the enrollment standards for the 2021 season, one can get a general idea of which classification a particular high school will fall into for the upcoming season.  A school near a cutoff line could move up (or down) when the new classifications are released.  District assignments are more difficult to predict. 

2021 Classifications:   8A: (2,356+);   7A: (1,924 – 2,355);   6A: (1,582 – 1,923);   5A: (1,137 – 1,581);   4A: (740 – 1,136);   3A: (361 -739);   2A: (360 & below);   1A: (600 & below and Rural Designation)

For example, Dillard reports a student enrollment of 1,955.  They are most likely to be classified as 7A, but there is a chance they could fall to 6A if the cutoff lines shift upward a bit.

Oh wow I don’t know why I thought we were in the 2000’s by now , that’s a very low population given our high school being one of the biggest high schools in the entire state of Florida. 

[Jesse]

Madison still 1A forever kings. They alabama of 1a. 

[Dr. D]

Their reported enrollment of 503 should keep them in 1A for at least two more years.

[AJUF]

Survey 2, the mid-October school count is due to the state in a couple of weeks.  If Classifications stay the same, I expect the enrollment cutoffs to go up.

[CoachMcG1]

The Football Advisory Committee meets today.  They have a pretty lengthy agenda...

https://fhsaa.com/documents/2022/1/3//2021.pdf?id=2356

Classification Action Item:

Item Description (Short) Metro/Non-Metro Background Information This was discussed last year and was approved by the FBAC as a discussion item. This would allow for a more competitive balance in State Championships. In the last 10 years, 89% of all state championships have come from the 8 highest Metro areas in Florida. This year only 1A (no metro schools are in the class) and 8A state champions were not from a metro area. When polled in our Section 2, over 70% of coaches would like to see some measure of competitive balance instituted in our classification system.

Recommendation When classifying, the FHSAA needs to separate Metro/Non-Metro and then make classifications from those divisions. The rural division will not be touched. the remaining schools will be divided into even classifications with districts.

Rationale This will allow competitive balance in championships. When talking about the State of Florida with 67 counties and just 8 counties make up 89% of the state championships, it shows there is a imbalance of competitiveness in how things are done

[s1nglewing]

11 hours ago, Jesse said:

Madison still 1A forever kings. They alabama of 1a. 

says bandwagon fan #1

[Trelle]

12 hours ago, Jesse said:

Madison still 1A forever kings. They alabama of 1a. 

Bama is an excellent recruiting school!

[Ray Icaza]

1 hour ago, CoachMcG1 said:

The Football Advisory Committee meets today.  They have a pretty lengthy agenda...

https://fhsaa.com/documents/2022/1/3//2021.pdf?id=2356

Classification Action Item:

Item Description (Short) Metro/Non-Metro Background Information This was discussed last year and was approved by the FBAC as a discussion item. This would allow for a more competitive balance in State Championships. In the last 10 years, 89% of all state championships have come from the 8 highest Metro areas in Florida. This year only 1A (no metro schools are in the class) and 8A state champions were not from a metro area. When polled in our Section 2, over 70% of coaches would like to see some measure of competitive balance instituted in our classification system.

Recommendation When classifying, the FHSAA needs to separate Metro/Non-Metro and then make classifications from those divisions. The rural division will not be touched. the remaining schools will be divided into even classifications with districts.

Rationale This will allow competitive balance in championships. When talking about the State of Florida with 67 counties and just 8 counties make up 89% of the state championships, it shows there is a imbalance of competitiveness in how things are done

Jon Santucci recently wrote an interesting piece in the Palm Beach Post about the 3 factors that should be used to determine "Classifications".  #1 with like 50% weight geographical population in 20 mile radius, #2 with like 25% weight would be school enrollment number and #3 with 25% weight would be pubic vs private.  Thought it to be very well conceived given the transfer situation in competitive balance.

[Dr. D]

Alabama uses an interesting approach to address "competitive balance" in the classification process.  First, a 1.35 enrollment multiplier is applied to all private schools to compensate for their perceived competitive advantage.  Second, private schools (but not public schools) are "promoted" up one classification depending how far they progress in the state playoffs in a two-year period.  Based on today's agenda, the Football Advisory Committee is at least considering similar ideas to address competitive balance.  Will be interesting to see if any significant recommendations are forthcoming.

https://www.ahsaa.com/Portals/0/PDF's/AHSAA/AHSAA/Re-Classification/2022-2024/Competitive Balance/CBF Updated September 2021.pdf?ver=Rh7qt2ykO_wFbo_iS-JHIw%3d%3d&timestamp=1639580015920

[Nulli Secundus]

On 1/4/2022 at 10:11 PM, Jesse said:

Madison still 1A forever kings. They alabama of 1a. 

 

On 1/4/2022 at 10:28 PM, Dr. D said:

Their reported enrollment of 503 should keep them in 1A for at least two more years.

Lucky.  If I had my way, Madison would be...