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  1. Columbiafan Statewide top 100 final poll

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    13 hours ago, ExplorerHomer said:

    Columbus beat Osceola on the road.

    You are correct, my apologies. 21-17 Columbus victory

    But still, Steinbrenner did the same to Osceola in even more convincing fashion than the supposedly #6 team in the state according to columbiafan :rolleyes:

    My point remains, 8A was completely devoid of elite teams this season and its best barely cracks the top 20 in the state

  2. Columbiafan Statewide top 100 final poll

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    2 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    Gaither beat plant by 7 at home

     

    Steinbrenner beat plant on the road by 49

     

     

     

    In week 2

    Gaither was a young team that improved a great deal as the season went on, eventually beating Tampa Bay Tech in week 9 and hanging with Armwood in a 14-0 loss in week 11.

    0-5 Plant coming off a beatdown at the hands of Gonzaga had already thrown in the towel by the time they played Steinbrenner.

  4. Columbiafan Statewide top 100 final poll

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    24 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    Apopka beat 2 undefeated teams (both on the road) and a 1 loss Steinbrenner team 

     

    What about that was weak?

     

     

    Ok?

    There are a heckuva lotta teams that wouldve gone undefeated with Bartram Trail and Seminole's schedules. Not a single marquee win between them

    And Steinbrenner? Who managed to dodge the top 6 or 7 teams in its own county on its schedule and lost to the only one of Hillsborough's top 10 it did play? Give me a break

    And Steinbrenner beat Osceola, who beat Columbus, who beat Apopka, who beat Steinbrenner,.......and in circles we go in the pool of 8A teams that do not belong anywhere near the discussion of the states elite

  5. Columbiafan Statewide top 100 final poll

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    40 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    So I should punish Edgewater and protect Armwood because they didn't take Edgewater seriously? If anything I should be more harder on a team for beating Lakeland who was the number 1 team in Florida and defending state champs then decided to slack off in a final 4 home game

     

    Armwood would have been a top 5 lock regardless of STA game had they beaten Edgewater but I'm not gonna punish Edgewater by putting Armwood higher just because Armwood didn't show up to play when it was time to go about it

     

     

    If it was regular season i would agree with your assessment of Apopka and Columbus but they earned top 10 FL with their playoff runs IMO, 8a weaker than 6a this year? Come on now!!

     

     

    I never said you should punish Edgewater, did I bold their name while pointing out my issues?

    You can base your rankings on whatever you want, clearly on field resume (or not, considering some shocking oversights listed). That is fine and your right. My point however is I do not believe Edgewater is a better team than Armwood, rather they benefited from an unfocused overconfident opponent that assumed it had already booked its date with STA by knocking off Lakeland the previous week. And going back to my original point, TBT playing them competitively down to the wire is a very impressive showing as Lakeland is indeed an elite team and better than Edgewater as well imo. That, combined with their only other losses being to good teams, makes their placement at #90 a completely laughable joke.

     

    Columbus and Apopka earned it with their playoff runs? Are you serious? Against mediocrity (to clarify, relative to the state elite, yes they are good teams and beat decent to good teams in general sense to get there, but compared to top teams in the state, it was against an incredibly weak group of teams)

    I guess the female gold medalists in track and are faster/better than the men's non finalists :rolleyes:

  6. Columbiafan Statewide top 100 final poll

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    On 12/17/2019 at 2:34 PM, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    Let the debate and critic work begin

     

    1 St Thomas Aquinas  7a (14-0)

    2 Miami Northwestern  5a (13-2)

    3 Edgewater  7a (13-2)

    4 Miami Central  6a (12-3)

    5 Miami Washington  4a (12-2)

    6 Columbus  8a (11-4) Lmao you're kidding right?

    7 Armwood  7a (12-2)

    8 Lakeland  7a (12-1)

    9 Jones  5a (13-2)

    10 Apopka  8a (12-2) ^^see above comment

    11 Deerfield Beach  8a (10-4)

    12 American Heritage Plantation  5a (10-2)

    13 Chaminade Madonna  3a (12-2)

    14 Lakewood  4a (12-1)

    15 Gulliver Prep  4a (11-1)

    16 Palmetto  6a (12-2)

    17 Wakulla  5a (13-1)

    18 Cardinal Gibbons  4a (10-3)

    19 Western  8a (9-3)

    20 Miami Palmetto  8a (10-2)

    21 Vero Beach  8a (11-1)

    22 Bartram Trail  8a (11-1)

    23 Atlantic Delray  7a (8-4)

    24 Rockledge  5a (8-2)

    25 Escambia  6a (14-1)

    26 Jesuit  5a (11-3)

    27 University School  4a (8-3)

    28 Champagnat Catholic  2a (10-3)

    29 Sanford Seminole  8a (11-1)

    30 Vanguard  5a (9-3)

    32 Madison County  1a (12-2)

    32 Dillard  6a (12-1)

    33 Plantation  7a (9-2)

    34 Steinbrenner  8a (12-2)

    35 McArthur  7a (8-3)

    36 Naples  6a (10-1)

    37 Venice  7a (8-5)

    38 Dr Phillips  8a (8-3)

    39 Miami Carol City  4a (5-6)

    40 North Marion  5a (9-3)

    41 Robert E Lee  6a (9-4)

    42 Columbia  6a (8-4)

    43 Bolles  4a (11-2)

    44 Cocoa  4a (8-4)

    45 Gaither   6a (12-2)

    46 Florida High  3a (12-2)

    47 Clearwater Central Catholic  3a (10-4)

    48 Palm Beach Lakes  7a (10-1)

    49 Sarasota Riverview  8a (9-3)

    50 Osceola  8a (10-2) 

    51 Niceville  7a (12-1)

    52 Calvary Christian  3a (10-2)

    53 Miami Edison   3a (6-6)

    54 Deland  8a (7-3)

    55 Trinity Christian  3a (5-6)

    56 Victory Christian  2a (11-2)

    57 Palm Beach Central  8a (9-3)

    58 Fleming Island  7a (10-1)

    59 Lincoln  7a (8-4)

    60 Manatee  7a (8-5)

    61 Chamberlain  5a (7-4)

    62 Viera  7a (6-4)

    63 Lake Gibson  6a (11-1)

    64 Berkeley Prep  3a (8-2)

    65 Treasure Coast  8a (8-2)

    66 Lake Wales  5a (12-1)

    67 Fort Myers  6a (9-3)

    68 Bishop Verot  3a (9-3)

    69 Benjamin  3a (8-4)

    70 Dunnellon  5a (9-2)

    71 South Sumter  4a (9-3)

    72 Tampa Catholic  4a (7-6)

    73 North Miami Beach  5a (8-4)

    74 Hialeah  7a (7-4)

    75 South Dade  8a (7-4)

    76 Pine Forest  5a (8-3)

    77 Pensacola Catholic  3a (11-1)

    78 Oakleaf  8a (7-3)

    79 University Christian  2a (11-2)

    80 Timber Creek  8a (9-2)

    81 Cypress Lake  5a (8-3)

    82 American Heritage Delray  4a (5-6)

    83 North Fort Myers  6a (7-4)

    84 Miami Christian  2a (6-5)

    85 Flagler Palm Coast  8a (8-3)

    86 Mandarin  8a (7-4)

    87 Clearwater  6a (9-3)

    88 Raines  5a (6-5)

    89 Ponte Vedra  6a (7-3)

    90 Tampa Bay Tech  7a (8-4)!!!!!!!????

    91 Cardinal Newman  3a (7-3)

    92 Boca Raton  8a (8-3)

    93 Miami Norland  6a (6-4)

    94 Mainland  6a (6-5)

    95 Monsignor Pace  4a (5-6)

    96 Miami High  8a (8-4)

    97 Port Charlotte  6a (10-2)

    98 Godby  5a (6-7)

    99 Bloomingdale  7a (9-3)

    100 Trinity Catholic  3a (8-4)











     

    Honorable mentions:


     

    Episcopal  3a (10-2)

    Terry Parker  5a (7-3)

    Blountstown  1a (13-1)

    Westside  5a (8-3)

    Spruce Creek  8a (6-4)

    Washington  6a (8-2)

    St Augustine  6a (6-5)

    Menendez  5a (7-3)

    Newberry  1a (9-2)

    West Nassau  4a (8-3)

    Fletcher  7a (6-4)

    Ribault  5a (4-5)

    Navarre  6a (6-4)

    Charlotte  6a (9-4)

    Wekiva  7a (7-4)

    Auburndale  6a (8-3)

    Bishop Moore  5a (7-4)

    Newsome  8a (8-3)

    Heritage  6a (5-4)

    South Fort Myers  6a (7-4)


     

    Every single 8A team is waaayyy overrated in your rankings. 8A was a joke this year and by far the weakest large class in the state. I somewhat agree with the order you have for 8A, but every team belongs much further down the state rankings.

    Columbus belongs no higher than #17. Every single south florida team #1-16 has a better resume, as well as Palmetto and Lakewood who took Miami Central and BTW respectively down to the wire (the same BTW that beat Columbus by 3 TDs while pulling their starters in the 4th quarter). Columbus got waxed by University 35-0 for god sakes. University!!!

    And Apopka? They lost decisively to the only top 15 team they played (Jones) who in turn lost decisively to both the elite teams they played.

    Honestly Deerfield Beach was probably the best team in 8A, but had to pull their annual playoff choke. Not to say their resume was particularly impressive, 8A was just that bone dry of top teams this year.

     

    TBT at #90 is complete joke, they took Lakeland down to the wire, and their 4 losses were all to good teams.

    Say what you want about Lakeland losing to Armwood who in turn lost to Edgewater (then to STA), but tbh I think a combination of Edgewater peaking at the right time along with Armwood hungover from their high of beating Lakeland in the TB super bowl while making them overconfident thinking they'd walk over Edgewater resulted in the outcome of that game.

    If Armwood and Edgewater play 10 games, there is no doubt in my mind Armwood wins 7 (+/- 1) of them. I mean come on, does anyone seriously think that Lincoln and Niceville play Edgewater more competitively on the road from the panhandle (like they did) than Armwood at home under normal circumstances? Anyone who says yes is lying and they know it

    Armwood slept on Edgewater, and the Eagles made them pay. Simple as that.

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