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  3. Unions want their members compensated. Districts are slow to compensate teachers and coaches, period. Because ultimately coaches/sponsors are extracurriculars, and not the primary focus of the district despite what some on this board would have you believe. Make it easy, ask your local principal how many teaching openings they have this year in their faculty, ask how much turnover will exist in their ranks this summer, and when they replace them, how many will be highly qualified teachers. Ask the AD how many of their coaches are not highly qualified. The problem from the district and unions' perspective is that there isn't a coaching shortage, somebody always wants to be a coach, but few want to be a math teacher or special education and have their career tied to a test that they have no control over. So just like in the business world, you should pay more to get a person to do the job if nobody is willing to do it. Now if you want to blame the unions, blame them and the districts for not being flexible in salaries for areas of critical needs/shortages. Despite their being a shortage, it isn't a universal shortage. Florida isn't struggling for social studies teachers, PE teachers, or elementary teachers, but secondary math, science, english, special ed (all levels), and world languages. Unions/districts have been reluctant to give extra pay to those subjects to entice people to enter the field, but notice, PE teacher isn't on that list. __________________ To give an idea of what will happen, let's use Madison County (since they were mentioned in an above post). Madison County has 30 head coaches and JV/assistant coaches (including cheerleading). The total amount of salaries that they put to those positions is %66,706. Madison County had a budget of $24 million, so .27% of their total budget. If the proposed bill passes, Madison County would spend 322,500, which represents 1.34% of their budget, about 4.8 times more than current. Now, if the state legislature would simple just add the $260,000 onto the budget, the unions wouldn't care other than making sure that all assistant/jv/and non mentioned coaches from the PB Post article are included. But that isn't what will happen, instead it will be a specific line in the budget from the state legislature, similar to technology or textbooks, money will be required to be spent on the salaries and the state will offer no additional funding (or they will only do it for 2 or 3 years, and when there are new priorities, they will still require it but provide no funding for it). Now, if they offer no additional funding, what happens is that money comes from somewhere in the budget. Considering that that this be part of "teacher salaries", that means it will be pulled from general instructional salaries portion of the budget, which means less money for teachers. So yes, teachers will be upset when the state legislature yet again promises something and then underdelivers (see making the starting salary $47,500).
  4. low pay and high expense on housing, while are in the talks, coaches are leaving becuase of resources. Mike Coe of coffee who was at union county and was a state championship contender year in and out, leaves to go to ga, in 3 seasons they went 15-0 this past yr, have an indoor field being built, makes a ton of money, all his 20 coaches do as well. resources, the ability to say if we want something, we dont have to sell discount cards and do car washes to buy 10 helmets, we go to people with power/money/boosters/etc and say we need 10 helmets. look up his twitter, thats where this all came from. camden county and travis roland, same deal. win a title at mainland and goes fundraising the next week. or go to camden, takes his staff, make more money, have incredible resources to facilitate what a state championship program should look like, same-read his twitter. id say majority of coaches would work in FL for what coaches rate is, if there were resources available that if you ask for it, its done. not having to spend the summer selling cards or raffle tickets or whatever they do....
  5. The rationale for allowing unlimited transfers, while also allowing an effectively unregulated "NIL" market, is that players should be able to do ANYTHING that helps them better themselves. ANY limits or regulations are said to be immoral, and probably rooted in "white supremacy". Welp, imagine a player playing on a team that's getting their butts kicked. You can't argue that it wouldn't improve his marketability to simply take off his uniform and walk over to the other sideline during the game. NOW, he's on the WINNING team. It would be MUCH better for the player to be on the winning team than to be a no-good loser. And, since "equity" is seen as THE most (if not only) important thing-whereby "equity" is defined and measured by the equivalence (or lack thereof) of outcomes- allowing all of the players on the losing team to simply leave and join the winning team, it all makes perfect sense!* *While bitter sarcasm was employed here, this is not really a joke. Using the current rationale, the above IS consistent with the rationale.
  6. Teachers are sometimes their own worst enemies.
  7. This is a bit of an incoherent mess. The matter of parents' rights is separate from teacher/coaches pay and teacher certification. All are valid, but distinct, concerns.
  8. The current players were in diapers when that game was played. I never said they hadn’t played a good team in their entire history. I said the last decade they have played the worst of the worst from FL
  9. See your ID says Ft Pierce. Ever see Randy "Sweetback" Walker play ? That Ft Pierce Central alum was the best running back I ever saw live... Quick and smooth as he glided through the defense (Sweet).
  10. Correct ! I see "Trollbull" is still at it, talking trash. Drove up for that barn burner about 50 miles north of Jacksonville in the sticks. Rockets couldn't stop the run and they couldn't stop the pass. Camden 45-42. I also believe they came down to STA that season or the next.
  11. Lake Buena Vista https://www.instagram.com/viperfb_ocps/p/C4bN6Q8p-cR/
  12. Bonita Springs has to replace Rich Dombroski https://www.naplesnews.com/story/sports/high-school/2024/03/14/bonita-springs-head-football-coach-rich-dombroski-steps-down/72959297007/
  13. Florida teacher shortage is worse than other states due to low pay and super high rent and housing. The state government BS on education videos and content does not help but first two are main reasons coaches leave to go to Georgia and other states.
  14. Hope all your innuendo doesn't imply this is a FLORIDA problem, as everything I read says it is a nationwide problem.
  15. I don’t think I mentioned one thing about Roland or his desire to take the job. I simply said Camden has systemically for at least a decade went out of their way to find the worst FL opponents they can find and that’s not an opinion, the coach said it in his own words. He said he doesn’t want to play a good team because his region is so tough he doesn’t want to be banged up. The issue falls on the Florida teams as well. The coaches prostituting their teams for money. It’s disgusting. What I did say about Roland is it will be interesting to see how he schedules when he gets his chance. If he gets his chance
  16. some charter schools do use student poll response to rate teachers. Counts like 5% of overall rating. The current VAM score which equal up to 1/2 of teachers evaluation is a joke. Most teachers get their score based on how student do on ELA and math scores even though the teachers dont teach either subject or grade level.
  17. Just to be clear, no one was suggesting to base teachers pay on a poll of students. To think that would be "Simple-minded" as you previously suggested. It was simply an observation on the fact that they have that ability to discern, yet the administrator responsible and being compensated for their performance can't or won't. Seems like an oxymoron to me as does the fact most school districts somehow manage to figure out among the thousands of teachers and dozens of separate schools who the "Teacher of the Year" is. The criteria used in this selection process could be used to rate teachers on a three-tier system of above average, average and below average with corresponding compensation. One can come up with all kinds of reasons why it won't work, but it really boils down to the union and teachers themselves. With regards to the coaches pay, I recently read another article in the Orlando Sentinel written by sportswriter Chris Hays that this proposal isn't being considered in this years legislative agenda but not until next year. He does accurately point out that one of the biggest obstacles to overcome is the teachers themselves not wanting to have said coaches compensated properly for the extra work. He states that they would revolt. Sad when you think about it as for years I sit in the stands to many athletic events for OHS and rarely see teachers there to support one of their students or even their school at these activities. Seems like at too many schools whatever we are doing today certainly isn't working.
  18. Florida education teacher shortage will continue to worsen for the following reasons: More people moving into state means it needs more teacher, pay raises are nonexistent so while the starting salary is solid.....the yearly raises are lousy, high cost of living, and idiotic political stunt laws by state leaders for political purposes that make showing videos and reading certain books illegal and punishable up to 10k. The state leaders already have given teacher certification to unqualified people from military and police and their spouses to no avail as a solution. so expect the next step to be giving certification to students after 2 years of college and pay them less then teachers as interns but they will do actual teaching by themselves. The state education system will become even more of a joke than now with all its stupid political theatre education laws in the name of PARENTS Rights.
  19. It’s been a while since I been back home in Vero but back in the day me and the guys would go over to Heavenly Wings next door to the stadium, they made some pretty good fish sandwiches too! That was *sigh 20 years ago though.
  20. I'm definitely gonna get the night off lol, I ate at fishack last week.... For a spring game, this is interesting, I wanna see Vero deals with the QB/RB tandem from West Boca
  21. With remote working certain to remain more of a thing than at any point in history, more appealing areas figure to be increasingly out of reach for the middle class. Wealthy people can often pick up and live/work wherever they please. This will sustain a high cost of living without bringing better wages to the middle class.
  22. Not all teachers can get paid evenly over twelve months as it varies by district. Regardless, the salary itself is unchanged. Let's think this through: Are you suggesting that teachers, with extensive graduate level education, seen as relatively esteemed professionals who may be north of 40 years old, should pursue minimum wage jobs bagging groceries? And, are you suggesting that such "opportunities" are sufficiently abundant as to be available to all, or nearly all, teachers? Why wouldn't the grocery store/restaurant etc hire someone much younger who hasn't promised to leave the job by August? Sure, it's a decent perk to have summers off. But, life's expenses don't change because of the summer break. And employers are not likely to want to bring on professionals who promise to leave the position come August for at least 10 months. Teaching is a unique, perhaps odd, profession for which the kinds of solutions that work in most/all other professions simply don't work.
  23. Sounds like a good night to get some garbage fries from Cafe 66 or an oyster po'boy from Fishack before heading over.
  24. I'm not sure what that has to do with why Roland should or shouldn't take the job. Plenty of community support in Kingsland, and if I had to guess, a better paying job than Mainland. I've seen plenty of Mainland games over the years, including Maronto's final game after the prostitution sting and they never had the kind of turnout that I saw in Kingsland that night.
  25. Teaching and coaching at the high school level is a THANKLESS job. Teachers and coaches have a direct influence on our youth's future. Public servants don"t get paid nearly enough.
  26. Added a bunch vs Georgia today since the GHSA released the schedules for all their member schools. A great feature that the FHSAA refuses to do
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