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  1. Correct. Player to player but also “coach to neighborhood to player” a lot of ways to INITIATE transfers. There’s some on here that love these super teams. I think it’s ruined HSFB. 80% (if not higher) of teams in the state will have no chance of winning a state championship.
    5 points
  2. Tbh I’m with you. As an avid Dillard high alum, former player & fan. So many years I wished that we had the transfer portal & the championships that came with it of a Miami central , Miami northwestern , Sta. To see Dillard high when a state title in football in my lifetime would be one of the proudest moments in my life. but at the same time I’m also old school where if you wanted to be the BEST you beat the best. I come from an era “90’s” where there were no super teams (To my Knowledge). There was pride and tradition to play for your HOME school & bring success to said school. now everyone wants microwave success aka super teams. No loyalty to the school what so ever everyone just load up at 1 school and make winning the championship as easy as possible.
    4 points
  3. I agree with you in principal but like anything, there's more to it than that. I was shown messages in confidence. To take action would violate this confidence. There's also my place, which it is not my place to take this action as there is a good relationship between our coaching staff and the staff of this other team. Finally, I do believe these players acted on their own in this case and not based upon direction from their coaches. This is only a gut feeling so I could be wrong. Anyway, the right people know about this and I leave it up to them. I am also proud that our coaches don't recruit, don't believe it is in the spirit of HS sports, and would rather go with the players that want to be there. We will never win a title this way but it makes what we do win that much sweeter. I don't really know how anyone can feel proud of a bunch of rent-a-players winning games for them.
    4 points
  4. This might help: https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/sports/high-school/football/2024/07/10/booker-football-coach-scottie-littles-suspended-6-games-fined-for-recruiting-violation/73265547007/ Having read the article, I understand the improper contact charge, but I didn't see anything in there that smacks of impermissible benefits. That said, this is yet another example of how the FHSAA system works against the honest schools and coaches. Someone, anyone, sends something in to the FHSAA. Instead of investigating, they simply send it out to the school and say, "hey, do you know anything about this?" The school then reviews it internally (and perhaps only by school/athletic administration folks, such that the coach isn't even involved). If the school determines that there is a fire behind the smoke, it can then "self-report" the violation. Once the violation has been self-reported (which was the case in this matter, according to the article), the FHSAA hands down its sanction and because the self-report essentially acts as an admission of guilt, the FHSAA feels justified in throwing the book at the accused coach. In so doing, the FHSAA picks up an easy win and word spreads of the punishment, which then, presumably, has a chilling affect on other coaches across the state. This story has been told before.
    4 points
  5. Has the All State Teams from the 2023-2024 season even been released yet?
    4 points
  6. Schools are struggling to fill their schedules ahead of the end of the school year. Then summer break hits and folks are away, not updating documents etc. The always changing structure of playoff systems also means schools constantly have to reconsider how/who to schedule. Long-term alliances in scheduling aren't tenable, so each cycle amounts to almost starting from scratch. I imagine there's a deadline sometime in late July or early August where everything has to be in. But, before then, there is no incentive to update maxpreps until summer break is over.
    4 points
  7. KOC, first game to start the season, or scrimmage….Both teams will leave it all in the field. Both teams will be 0-0 after this game but don’t think for a second it won’t influence the national polls!!!!
    3 points
  8. I'm pretty sure the Armwood-Norland game is a kickoff classic. But, I'm also pretty sure both teams will be playing their best to win. Hopefully the Section 104 boys can give us a stream!
    3 points
  9. Definitely higher. 95% of teams have zero chance to win a state championship.
    3 points
  10. Jullian

    ROLL CALL!!!!!

    Agree. I’m in contact for years with a diehard Armwood fan & this year is their best team in quite awhile, if ever! Nice opener VS Norland will be a good one.
    3 points
  11. No Booker T? I think a season where Armwood goes unbeaten with most or all games being blowouts is going to be interesting. Their taking of most of Sumner's best players appears to be completely overlooked by most. I don't think people realize this may be the best Armwood team ever, based on raw talent. I just think folks who have no clue about the 2024 team will dismiss that claim out of hand.
    3 points
  12. Jullian

    ROLL CALL!!!!!

    Jullian here. Looking forward to the round robin with STA, AHP, & Chaminade. Western, Monarch, Coconut Creek & Gibbons should b solid. Dillard, Stranahan, & Miramar have potential…….Plantation?? Ely? & Will Deerfield ever be prevalent again!!!! That’s Broward. other teams I’m looking at: NW, Central, Norland, Armwood, Sumner, Lakeland, Naples, Bishop Verot, Hawthorne, Vanguard, Apopka, Mainland, Berkeley Prep, CCC, Buchholtz, Niceville, Dunnellon, South Sumpter, Kiss Osceola, Jones, Lake Mary, Lincoln, & Venice……
    3 points
  13. Best Roll Call skit ever.
    3 points
  14. I have been thinking about this last post and want to offer a different slant. For background, remember that the FHSAA had a 5-year agreement with MaxPreps from 2018-2022 which paid the FHSAA $85,000 annually to allow MaxPreps to serve as the exclusive provider for scores and statistics to the FHSAA. I assume this contract has been renewed, and I'm guessing the details are hidden somewhere in the FHSAA financial archives, but I have been unable to unearth it at this time. My point is MaxPreps could very well be paying the FHSAA to serve as its official platform, and not vice versa. Why would MaxPreps do that? to drive online visits to its website and social media platforms, in order to sell more goods and services via its advertisers, and the advertising income that follows from that. They also need the FHSAA to mandate that all scores be entered into MaxPreps, so its proprietary algorithm can be more "accurate". I would consider this possible scenario when we are speculating on the motives of the FHSAA and MaxPreps. Just my two cents.
    3 points
  15. To answer the original question, each school should have a Coach Admin account on the MaxPreps website where the coach/AD/assistant coach or whoever can enter the team's schedule. MaxPreps also says you can email your schedule and they will enter it for you. So it appears the onus is on the school itself to submit its schedule to MaxPreps, and there are reasons that may not happen promptly, as has been pointed out. Other errors I have seen are confusing Booker T. Washington in Miami with Booker T. Washington in Pensacola, and Pace with Monsignor Pace, etc. I saw one score that was reported as 61-0, when in fact it was 29-0, and was never corrected during the year. Although things tend to get smoothed out with the schedule entry, there is still room for administrative errors, and we are basing the playoff structure on this system? Sheesh!
    3 points
  16. No wonder the FHSAA and maxpreps get along so well. They both are F ups.
    3 points
  17. Dr. D

    ROLL CALL!!!!!

    My enthusiasm for the upcoming season is tempered by the reality that 95% of teams have no chance of winning a state championship. I personally don't feel this is good for the long-term health of Florida high school football, but others may disagree. I don't want to rehash the Metro-Suburban argument, but I foresee a large number of blowouts in the playoffs this year. Here in northwest Florida, a great season is when several teams make it to a Region final game. In the current environment, the odds of a team from northwest Florida winning a state title are almost zero, maybe once in 10 years if the stars align perfectly. So it is a matter of adjusting expectations and enjoying the spirit of high school football where it exists. Yes, there are a handful of transfers in these parts, but generally there is a "community" feel to the competition. Here, attendance is generally very good, rivalries are intense, the bands are robust, and the players play hard, even if they are not the most talented. I will be rooting for some underdogs across the state to make a run this year, but the reality is the usual suspects will likely dominate again. Good luck to each of your teams! One month until kickoff...
    2 points
  18. Here are the schools with the most “transfers” via Blustein as of 8/17. Central leads the way with 6 out of state transfers(AlabamaX2, Arkansas, Rhode IslandX2, & Colorado). Unparalleled by any school IN the state outside of IMG. Dade: NW 18. Central 15. Norland 14. Homestead 10. Carol city & Columbus active also. Broward: Monarch 17. Chaminade 14. Western 14. Coconut Creek 13. STA 12. Gibbons & Stranahan active also. SO U EXCITED ABOUT THE SEASON???? imagine the coach from improving Sarasota Booker gets “arrested” by the FHSAA for attempting to recruit ONE player.
    2 points
  19. So, let's break this down. Schools cannot control what their fans do, but schools can be punished if certain of their fans break the rules. Is this fair? I don't know. But it is the way the rules are written. If you start sending out text messages to kids suggesting they 'come play for Venice,' and you are not a representative of Venice's athletic interests, no one gets into trouble. Although you may lose a few friends in Lakeland. Can a kid who receives multiple text messages decide to selectively turn in certain teams, but not others? Yes. Does that happen? Not in my experience. To the contrary, kids/parents that have been a part of the shady underworld of high school recruiting/transferring tend to do whatever they can to stay quiet and under the radar for fear of getting caught in the punishment net. As I have said many times (not necessarily on this site), most kids who get contacted by other schools take it as a compliment. It makes them (and their parents) feel good. "Dang, look at all these other schools/coaches that want me/my son to come play for them. That's pretty cool. They're nice guys; why should I turn them in?" And if the kid or his parents are the ones reaching out to other schools to gauge any interest that other schools might have, well, those are going to be the last kids/parents to want to turn anyone in. With all due respect, it appears to me that you are trying to make the argument that the existing rules need to be changed. That may be true. But, as you have seen with NIL, once the camel gets his nose in the tent, the rest of the body is sure to follow. Or you can go with the Pandora's Box analogy. Either way, it'll get crazy.
    2 points
  20. I'm confused. Are we talking about the way it is or the way it should be? Here's what Policy 37.1.1 of the FHSAA Handbook says: "No school employee, athletic department staff member, representative of the school’s athletic interests or third parties, such as an independent person, business or organization, may make contact, either in person or through any form of written or electronic communication or through any third party, with a student, or any member of the student’s family, in an effort to pressure, urge or entice the student to attend a different school for the purpose of participating in interscholastic athletics." So, does this apply to a fan or a existing player player on team? Good question. Clearly the rule applies to an existing player on a team (see below) and it may apply to a fan if that fan falls within the definition of a "representative of a school's athletic interests." Here is how the FHSAA defines that term: 36.2.1.1 Representative of a School’s Athletic Interests. “Representative of a school’s athletic interests” refers to any independent person, business or organization that participates in, assists with and/or promotes that school’s interscholastic athletic program. This includes: (a) A student-athlete or other student participant in the athletic program at that school; (b) The parents, guardians or other family members of a student-athlete or other student participant in the athletic program at that school; (c) Immediate relatives of a coach or other member of the athletic department staff at that school; (d) A volunteer with that school’s athletic program; (e) A member of an athletic booster organization of that school; (f) A person, business or organization that makes financial or in-kind contributions to the athletic department or that is otherwise involved in promoting the school’s interscholastic athletic program. Whether it should be the rule is subject to debate, but as it stands now, if a kid from one team sends out a text, a DM, an email, a telegraph or a smoke signal to a kid at another school trying to persuade that kid to transfer, that's recruiting and that's illegal. Same thing if a coach does it. Same thing if a parent of a kid on the team does. Same thing if a dude who is a member of the booster club does it. Would it apply to a "fan?" I don't know; let's use someone like This_is_Dillard as an example? Clearly, he's an alum, but he doesn't have a kid at Dillard anymore (if my recollection is correct). If he's not a booster, not a volunteer and makes no financial or in-kind contributions to the team and is not involved in promoting the program, he may not qualify. Interesting question arises as to whether someone who comes on a message board and repeatedly posts positive things about his former school would qualify as a "promoter," thus making him a representative of the school's athletic interests. That's a grey area for me. As for the "photoshop" argument, that's what lawyers would call "an evidentiary issue." The entity investigating (i.e., the FHSAA) likely would have to subpoena phone records to find out what text messages were sent from what devices and who owned those devices. Photoshopped messages might be enough to start an investigation, but it likely would not stand up to evidentiary scrutiny if the issue gets raised. The tough issue would be if a text got sent and the person who allegedly sent it claims they were hacked or their phone was temporarily removed from their possession by some rogue texter trying to get a particular school in trouble. Again, we can debate all day long what the rules should be, and we can debate all day if the FHSAA does anything about the information once received, but like it or not, what the rules are is pretty clear.
    2 points
  21. Actually I would because the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. My son turns 21 in sept & never did I think about having him at one of those private schools. sure they have the boosters & college connects. But I’m a firm believer as to what’s for you will be for you. & hard work pays off. you can step foot on dillard campus and be the best thing that came through there since Issac Bruce & the offers will be there. in todays society these kids don’t want to work for anything. It’s monkey see monkey do if a bunch of kids aka their friends are all teaming up to play for whatever the “IT” school is that year that’s where they go. where’s the loyalty ? Where’s the pride ? If you ask me getting a ring as a super team , means nothing compared to a team that got it from the mud & actually earned it from hard work. Even if it took a down freshmen & sophomore year to get better & achieve said goal.
    2 points
  22. The biggest factor for Tarpon Springs was the folding of the Clearwater Academy football program. The head coach for CAI was picked up as OC at TS. His QB, who started at TS, followed him back there as did some other good players. This influx made the program much more attractive. And, there really aren't a lot of great alternatives in the immediate area for football. There's no program with such a great resume and such great resources that they can win recruiting battles for players. Many of the CAI players shopped around at a wider range of programs. But, most of the CAI kids needed housing and/or a program near CAI. I believe it's possible some/all of the CAI transfers may still attend and receive housing at CAI. They'd be allowed to play at TS even while not attending the school since CAI doesn't offer football anymore.
    2 points
  23. Jullian

    ROLL CALL!!!!!

    Yeah BTW & Homestead. Broncos get a stud QB from Jersey, plus STA ain’t in their class this year. Big things for the Broncos. it’ll probably be Gibbons vs BTW for the region in 2a.
    2 points
  24. If this doesn't define the word "irony," I don't know what does.
    2 points
  25. As far as the rules and culture go, public schools now have an advantage over private schools in attracting players. Of course, the biggest, best private schools still have an overall advantage when you factor in the wealth of the student body/alumni. And those located right in the middle of dense urban areas have many more players to pick from within a reasonable driving distance. It looks like Venice was pissed to lose their starting RB. So, they turned in Booker. The player in question appeared headed to Lakeland for a time after leaving Booker. But, perhaps had a change of heart and felt the hassle wasn't worth it.
    2 points
  26. As you probably know, the rest of the state views Dade/Broward as a scary sort of foreign land (and those in Dade/Broward view the rest of the state as a scary sort of country bumpkin place). Most in Gainesville threw up their hands and quit bothering to get involved in Dade/Broward years ago. Public schools in the rest of the state are held to a different standard by many. Though there's no way to be sure how many transfers schools end up with until the school year literally starts.
    2 points
  27. It certainly figures to be an exciting year for our team! They should be strong as they head to Traz Powell to take on the Rockets, likely on ESPN.
    2 points
  28. I barely passed my intro to computer science course, but anyone who has led an organization knows that you have to establish expectations and develop consequences for failure to meet those expectations. Schedules have to be input by 45 days (or whatever) from opening day. Failure to do so results in the offending school being fined $1,000 or $5,000 or whatever (money talks, right Nulli?), or the school cannot take part in the playoffs, or cannot host a home game in the playoffs, or whatever punishment would overcome laziness or ineptitude. (A related issue is the fact that schools have to find 7-8 non-district games because of the Mickey Mouse 2-, 3-, and 4-team districts. Georgia was previously cited as an example, but they have much larger districts than Florida, so it is much less of a struggle to put together a 10-game schedule. Hence, their schedules are ready to go and published well in advance. Yet another argument for large districts.)
    2 points
  29. But yet MaxPreps can put out a power ranking now? Makes no sense.
    2 points
  30. 2 points
  31. MaxPreps has also released its initial 2024 "Power Rating" for each team. An individual team's Power Rating and preseason classification ranking can be viewed from each team's MaxPreps football home page by clicking on "2024 Season Preview". The #1 rated teams in each classification are: R - Hawthorne 1A- Chaminade-Madonna 2A - Cocoa 3A - Central 4A - AHP 5A - STA 6A - Mandarin 7A - Venice No real shockers here. My biggest beef is how can MaxPreps calculate a numerical "Power Rating" when not a single game has been played? I'm shaking my head that it has come to this for the football postseason, but maybe a MaxPreps' apologist on here can explain why this is a good idea. But it does seem like most are happy to roll with the proprietary, top-secret MaxPreps computer algorithms for at-large selections and playoff seeding, so maybe it's just me. I just hope that there is not a ton of whining when someone's team inevitably gets screwed by a formula for which there is no explanation. (Sorry, had to get that out of my system.) 6 weeks until kickoff...
    2 points
  32. Booker T. Washington people won't show up like you thinking. They have to be playing Central or Da West and they side still not be completely full
    2 points
  33. I agree with you heavily on that. Especially in dillards case.
    2 points
  34. muckboy561

    ROLL CALL!!!!!

    Muckboy here!!! GC Raiders all day!!!! Let's go Raiders!!!!
    1 point
  35. And I'll make this comment as general as possible so that it's not directed to or at any person: if you're not willing to say something (i.e., turn in those that are clearly breaking the rules), then you really shouldn't bitch about it. If you think what's happening is wrong and you have the receipts to prove it (and you don't live in a glass house), speak out.
    1 point
  36. I know this thread is about Dade and Broward but there is a team in Pinellas County that is getting transfer after transfer in and that is Tarpon Springs. Something fishy going on over in Tarpon. This team was 1-9 and nearly didn't have enough players to field a team just three years ago but now they are successfully going after everyone's players. Makes you wonder if there is a big money donor behind all of this? The only local teams usually this active in the transfer scene are CCC and Lakewood. Everyone else is just a plucked player here and there but not a full new team. On this subject, those Dade and Broward teams with 10+ transfers... WTF that is recruiting a new team every year and just not in the spirit of HS sports. Maybe they should add a rule that any team with 7+ (or something like that) transfers in gets thrown into the open division automatically? I'd be okay with that.
    1 point
  37. PinellasFB

    ROLL CALL!!!!!

    Maybe I missed the joke here but I can't seem to find any all-state teams from last year? Google is a mess if you search for it so maybe I just missed it?
    1 point
  38. FBGUY1989

    ROLL CALL!!!!!

    You think Lakeland is going to beat Central
    1 point
  39. Nulli Secundus

    ROLL CALL!!!!!

    THAT SH--T WAS FUNNY @THAT S--T WAS FUNNY
    1 point
  40. I said this years ago and I'll say it again. NO EXCUSE!!! The FHSAA could've contracted this out. Hell, they could've given a UF CompSci student an internship/co-op to create a simple database already linked to the FHSAA portal in which schools can enter and confirm schedules, FOR ALL SPORTS. All schools reside in a database and can be parsed by year, then sport (ie, football, boys basketball, girls basketball, etc). If school A is going to play school C, school A enters their information and school C does the same. If the information doesn't match in the system (non matching opponents, dates, time, home/away or whatever), that game is flagged for correction. Compliance is not optional. This is freshman year "intro to programming" and I know because I did this stuff back in 1994. It pisses me off the the nth degree that such a talent rich State of Florida has such mediocre resources. There's no reason why we have to wait on an external resource (MaxPreps) to post inaccurate and incomplete information. There's no reason that this site (Thank you for everything @Joshua Wilson), @nolebull813, @THIS_IS_DILLARD or anyone else should have to look under rocks to find complete schedules. How does the FHSAA course correct?
    1 point
  41. According to MaxPreps, these are the most dominant programs in the last 20 years: 1. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale), 1,127 State championships: 2008 (5A), 2010 (5A), 2012 (7A), 2013 (7A), 2014 (7A), 2015 (7A), 2016 (7A), 2019 (7A), 2020 (7A), 2021 (7A), 2022 (3M), 2023 (3M) State runner-up: 2004 (5A), 2005 (5A), 2006 (5A), 2018 (7A) State top 25: 2004 (12), 2005 (8), 2006 (8), 2007 (6), 2008 (1), 2009 (5), 2010 (1), 2011 (12), 2012 (4), 2013 (17), 2014 (1), 2015 (3), 2016 (2), 2017 (15), 2018 (3), 2019 (1), 2020 (2), 2021 (4), 2022 (3), 2023 (3) Nationally ranked: 2008 (1), 2010 (4), 2014 (8), 2015 (21), 2016 (7), 2019 (5), 2020 (14), 2021 (9), 2022 (6), 2023 (9) 2. Central (Miami), 818 State championships: 2010 (6A), 2012 (6A), 2013 (6A), 2014 (6A), 2015 (6A), 2019 (6A), 2020 (6A), 2021 (5A), 2022 (2M) State runner-up: 2011 (6A) State top 25: 2004 (25), 2009 (7), 2010 (3), 2011 (7), 2012 (1), 2013 (2), 2014 (3), 2015 (2), 2016 (13), 2017 (6), 2018 (5), 2019 (3), 2020 (4), 2021 (6), 2022 (1), 2023 (13) Nationally ranked: 2010 (15), 2012 (14), 2013 (8), 2014 (14), 2015 (14), 2019 (21), 2020 (18), 2021 (20), 2022 (2) 3. Booker T. Washington (Miami), 467 State championships: 2007 (4A), 2012 (4A), 2013 (4A), 2014 (4A), 2015 (4A), 2019 (4A) State runner-up: 2011 (4A) State top 25: 2004 (11), 2005 (10), 2006 (13), 2007 (1), 2011 (14), 2012 (2), 2013 (1), 2014 (2), 2015 (19), 2016 (17), 2019 (6) Nationally ranked: 2007 (25), 2012 (15), 2013 (4), 2014 (13) 4. Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood), 435 State championships: 2005 (2A), 2017 (3A), 2018 (3A), 2019 (3A), 2021 (3A), 2022 (1M), 2023 (1M) State runner-up: 2016 (3A), 2020 (3A) State top 25: 2004 (7), 2005 (7), 2017 (7), 2018 (13), 2019 (13), 2020 (8), 2021 (5), 2022 (4), 2023 (2) Nationally ranked: 2021 (24), 2022 (10), 2023 (2) 5. Lakeland, 432 State championships: 2004 (5A), 2005 (5A), 2006 (5A), 2018 (7A), 2022 (4S), 2023 (4S) State runner-up: 2008 (5A) State top 25: 2004 (1), 2005 (1), 2006 (1), 2007 (15), 2008 (5), 2009 (11), 2010 (10), 2018 (2), 2019 (9), 2022 (5), 2023 (7) Nationally ranked: 2004 (22), 2005 (21), 2006 (21), 2018 (19), 2022 (14) 6. Armwood (Seffner), 410 State championships: 2004 (4A), 2011 (6A), 2013 (6A), 2014 (6A), 2015 (6A), 2017 (6A), 2018 (6A) State runner-up: 2005 (4A), 2010 (4A), 2013 (6A), 2014 (6A), 2015 (6A), 2017 (6A), 2018 (6A) State top 25: 2004 (3), 2005 (4), 2006 (9), 2007 (4), 2008 (9), 2009 (15), 2010 (5), 2011 (2), 2013 (12), 2014 (9), 2015 (10), 2016 (24), 2017 (5), 2018 (16), 2019 (7) Nationally ranked: 2009 (9) 7. American Heritage (Plantation), 406 State championships: 2013 (5A), 2014 (5A), 2016 (5A), 2017 (5A), 2020 (5A) State runner-up: 2015 (3A), 2022 (2M) State top 25: 2004 (24), 2013 (4), 2014 (5), 2015 (9), 2016 (4), 2017 (2), 2018 (17), 2019 (12), 2020 (5), 2021 (18), 2022 (7), 2023 (12) Nationally ranked: 2017 (6), 2020 (21), 2022 (12) 8. Cocoa, 389 State championships: 2009 (2A), 2010 (2A), 2016 (4A), 2022 (2S), 2023 (2S) State runner-up: 2017 (4A), 2018 (4A), 2021 (4A) State top 25: 2007 (20), 2008 (4), 2009 (2), 2010 (4), 2012 (16), 2016 (5), 2017 (12), 2020 (17), 2021 (9), 2022 (17), 2023 (4) Nationally ranked: 2009 (22), 2023 (17) 9. Northwestern (Miami), 341 State championships: 2006 (6A), 2007 (2), 2017 (6A), 2018 (6A), 2019 (5A) State runner-up: 2008 (6A) State top 25: 2006 (2), 2007 (2), 2008 (7), 2009 (17), 2010 (19), 2011 (19), 2012 (24), 2016 (6), 2017 (4), 2018 (9), 2019 (4), 2020 (12), 2021 (22), 2022 (13) Nationally ranked: 2019 (24) 10. Plant (Tampa), 331 State championships: 2006 (4A), 2008 (4A), 2009 (5A), 2011 (8A) State runner-up: 2010 (5A), 2016 (7A) State top 25: 2006 (3),2007 (14), 2008 (2), 2009 (3), 2010 (8), 2011 (3), 2012 (21), 2013 (14), 2016 (7), 2017 (20) Nationally ranked: 2009 (23), 2011 (13) 11. Trinity Christian Academy (Jacksonville), 253 State championships: 2010 (1A), 2013 (3A), 2014 (3A), 2015 (3A), 2016 (3A), 2020 (3A), 2021 (2A) State runner-up: 2009 (1A) State top 25: 2009 (25), 2010 (25), 2013 (10), 2014 (7), 2015 (5), 2016 (12), 2018 (14), 2020 (7) Nationally ranked: N/A 12. Columbus (Miami), 236 State championships: 2019 (8A), 2022 (4M), 2023 (4M) State runner-up: 2018 (8A) State top 25: 2007 (22), 2008 (23), 2010 (23), 2011 (24), 2014 (13), 2015 (6), 2018 (8), 2019 (10), 2020 (11), 2021 (20), 2022 (6), 2023 (8) Nationally ranked: 2022 (23) 13. Bolles (Jacksonville), 234 State championships: 2004 (3A), 2006 (2A), 2008 (2A), 2011 (4A) State runner-up: 2013 (4A), 2016 (4A), 2019 (4A), 2020 (4A) State top 25: 2004 (2), 2006 (6), 2008 (8), 2009 (12), 2011 (8), 2012 (22), 2014 (18), 2016 (19), 2020 (25) Nationally ranked: N/A 14. Madison County (Madison), 223 State championships: 2007 (2A), 2017 (1A), 2018 (1A), 2019 (1A), 2021 (1A) State runner-up: 2004 (2A), 2011 (3A), 2012 (3A), 2023 (1R) State top 25: 2004 (13), 2007 (8), 2010 (11), 2011 (16), 2012 (12), 2017 (19), 2018 (20) Nationally ranked: N/A 15. Apopka, 217 State championships: 2012 (8A), 2013 (8A), 2014 (8A) State runner-up: 2019 (8A), 2021 (8A), 2022 (4M) State top 25: 2007 (18), 2009 (13), 2012 (7), 2013 (6), 2014 (6), 2015 (25), 2019 (8), 2021 (8), 2022 (16) Nationally ranked: N/A 16. Cardinal Gibbons (Fort Lauderdale), 187 State championships: 2018 (5A), 2020 (4A), 2021 (4A) State runner-up: N/A State top 25: 2016 (14), 2017 (10), 2018 (7), 2019 (18), 2020 (3), 2021 (7), 2022 (25) Nationally ranked: 2020 (22) 17. Venice, 183 State championships: 2017 (7A), 2021 (8A) State runner-up: 2022 (4S), 2023 (4S) State top 25: 2011 (20), 2016 (11), 2017 (3), 2018 (10), 2019 (23), 2020 (20), 2021 (1), 2022 (12), 2023 (11) Nationally ranked: N/A 18. Mainland (Daytona Beach), 176 State championships: 2023 (3S) State runner-up: 2022 (3S) State top 25: 2004 (5), 2006 (10), 2008 (15), 2011 (18), 2013 (8), 2014 (8), 2015 (11), 2016 (9), 2023 (6) Nationally ranked: N/A 19. Dwyer (Palm Beach Gardens), 169 State championships: 2009 (4A) State runner-up: 2013 (7A) State top 25: 2008 (13), 2009 (1), 2010 (20), 2011 (9), 2013 (3), 2016 (18) Nationally ranked: 2009 (4) 20. Manatee (Bradenton), 165 State championships: 2011 (7A) State runner-up: 2009 (5A) State top 25: 2009 (14), 2010 (9), 2011 (1), 2012 (5), 2013 (11), 2014 (24) Nationally ranked: 2011 (8) T-21. Carol City (Miami), 136 State championships: 2016 (6A) State runner-up: N/A State top 25: 2015 (17), 2016 (3), 2017 (16), 2018 (4) Nationally ranked: 2016 (10) T-21. Norland (Miami), 136 State championships: 2011 (5A) State runner-up: 2023 (2M) State top 25: 2010 (12), 2011 (4), 2022 (19), 2023 (5) Nationally ranked: 2011 (19) 23. Jefferson (Tampa), 129 State championships: 2010 (3A) State runner-up: 2004 (3A) State top 25: 2004 (10), 2005 (24), 2006 (19), 2009 (19), 2010 (2) Nationally ranked: 2010 (8) 24. St. Augustine, 128 State championships: 2005 (3A) State runner-up: 2007 (3A), 2023 (3S) State top 25: 2005 (2), 2006 (18), 2007 (9), 2008 (24), 2010 (13), 2017 (9), 2023 (19) Nationally ranked: N/A 25. American Heritage (Delray Beach), 126 State championships: 2007 (1A), 2009 (1A), 2011 (3A) State runner-up: 2010 (1A) State top 25: 2009 (21), 2011 (6), 2012 (10), 2014 (11) Nationally ranked: N/A Here's the link to the article, which also shows how the rankings were determined.
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  42. I couldn't agree more. The official power rankings shouldn't come out until week 4 or 5 of the season.
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  43. For some strange reason Miami Edison is going up to play the number 1 team from Ohio. Florida leads the country by a wide margin in playing out of state games where the FL team is vastly outmanned and favored to lose
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  44. She was there. She did good. Won all her events. Charger Elite is the team she runs for. It’s the local one. They hosted the event.
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  45. @Ray Icaza I’m at Osceola High Stadium right this second. Track event hosted by a local track club called Charger Elite. My son runs track and I like to sign him up out side of school to keep him conditioned
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  46. I like this matchup the more I think about it. Even though this is a KoC, I think the kids will take it very seriously. Both these teams are in the same boat. Both want to get back into the upper tier of the region. Both need to have a good season to attract talent around the area. This game could set the tone for the rest of the way
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  47. Ray Icaza

    FOOTBALL SUMMER WORKOUTS

    Ours started on June 11 and they do three days a week with the week of July 4th completely off. I think giving them a couple of weeks off after completion of our Spring Jamboree vs Edgewater/Deland (05/23) is much appreciated by the players.
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  48. A beast who is sexy
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  49. CAI was such a farce program. The school only has 70 or so students so you know at least some of those 40+ football players probably weren't even required to attend class or were "attending" virtually. No tears from me seeing them fold up shop. I guess football didn't grow the stature of their strange scientology school like it was originally intended.
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