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Ray Icaza

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  1. Hope all your innuendo doesn't imply this is a FLORIDA problem, as everything I read says it is a nationwide problem.
  2. Just to be clear, no one was suggesting to base teachers pay on a poll of students. To think that would be "Simple-minded" as you previously suggested. It was simply an observation on the fact that they have that ability to discern, yet the administrator responsible and being compensated for their performance can't or won't. Seems like an oxymoron to me as does the fact most school districts somehow manage to figure out among the thousands of teachers and dozens of separate schools who the "Teacher of the Year" is. The criteria used in this selection process could be used to rate teachers on a three-tier system of above average, average and below average with corresponding compensation. One can come up with all kinds of reasons why it won't work, but it really boils down to the union and teachers themselves. With regards to the coaches pay, I recently read another article in the Orlando Sentinel written by sportswriter Chris Hays that this proposal isn't being considered in this years legislative agenda but not until next year. He does accurately point out that one of the biggest obstacles to overcome is the teachers themselves not wanting to have said coaches compensated properly for the extra work. He states that they would revolt. Sad when you think about it as for years I sit in the stands to many athletic events for OHS and rarely see teachers there to support one of their students or even their school at these activities. Seems like at too many schools whatever we are doing today certainly isn't working.
  3. When I attended school back in the mid 60's as a student we knew who were good teachers and who weren't. When I taught from '74 to '81 that was still true as even the faculty themselves knew. I believe that to be true today (as I have worked as a Sub in recent years) with the only difference I have observed with the passage of time is a higher percentage fall into the lower tier. As a sub, you can generally get a feel how well a classroom is managed as you fill in for those 6 or 7 periods throughout the day. No one is claiming the process would be easy, but I harken back to my childhood as JFK famously told us we were going to the moon, not because it was easy but because it was hard. We can respectfully disagree whether this can be done, but that disagreement doesn't merit your claim someone doesn't know what they are talking about. The fact remains that the job performance in every metric as a nation in K-12 has fallen steadily over decades despite the amount we spend per child compared to other countries. Nothing in my posts on this thread has anything to do with politics, simply wanting just pay for coaches and what they do as well as a way to keep high performing teachers.
  4. Too bad we can't find a way to install a merit based system into these type of municipal/state employees pay plan as some teachers should be making six figures while sadly others are overpaid; same disparity is evident in firefighters, law enforcement, etc... regarding job performance. The private sector as a general rule is merit based and while I believed the same could be done at school, most administrators had the same lame excuse. It was too subjective to determine good teachers from bad, yet the students can tell you but the administrator can not? ..... PITIFULL!! Earlier comments about starting teachers pay in FL getting a bump is correct as they earn more than those in adjoining states, but the pay is pretty much the same at 15 and 30 years for FL, GA, AL, SC, etc... Coaching stipends is a whole nother issue when compared with other states. This pretty much sums up why I left the teaching/coaching profession after 7 years and joined the private sector. Merit (job performance) should mean something.
  5. Definitely needs to pass. The truth is all around us.
  6. Unfortunately, Paul Harvey nor his ilk are no longer with us.
  7. Tremendous travesty without a doubt. I spoke about this possibility a couple of years ago when I initially joined this forum and sadly it is coming to fruition and I was hoping so much to be wrong.
  8. If you are so confident in your belief that there are 32-36 teams that actively cheat and therefore are all capable of winning an open division please help me out and name them.
  9. You gotta admit, they have figured out that the QB is the lynchpin for a championship run.
  10. Those talking about an "OPEN DIVISION" comprised of 24-32 teams are overlooking reality. As I have previously stated, it is my view that the top 10% FL HS teams (roughly 50 teams) tend to follow the rules with a few exceptions. However, when we zero in on the top 1% (roughly 6-8 teams) of FL HS teams they most certainly "RECRUIT". Thus, I fully agree with your take on an open division comprised of only those 8 teams, as only one of them would win the championship each and every year leaving the other 40 odd excellent programs to continually be second fiddles despite doing everything right. Also fully support having districts comprised of a minimum of 5-6 teams with fewer classifications.
  11. What seems a bit troublesome about this, if I understand the charges properly they fined a school for "Recruiting" students that were already zoned to attend that school. Not sure that meets the goal of who they should be going after.
  12. TEDDY BRIDGEWATER - new HC at Miami Northwestern Teddy Bridgewater lands head coaching job at his alma mater (msn.com)
  13. They did manage to grab a couple of kids from our returning roster that were probably projected starters. One on the O-line and one on the D-line. Some players that we lose, you can find a pretty good reason for them to do so. These two, I see no upside for them in that program so it is quite puzzling.
  14. But I thought the privates had no advantage over most publics. Based on your input, attracting players may not be a result of winning culture, tradition of excellence, coaching, blah, blah, blah, but instead "Athletic Budget"??? NAAHHH!!!
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