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May have another trip up to Lake City after I win our bet Maybe you shouldn't have set the bar so low on the win total because if they find a way to upset TCA tomorrow we will reach the mark with 2 games to spare in the regular season

I definitely respect the fact Treasure Coast is willing to step up and play tough competition and even travel to SFL Hell when's the last time Vero Beach ever played a road game in Broward or Dade outside of the playoffs?

Honestly I didn't think Price Harris is the problem at Madison Based on what I saw the biggest thing was Columbia basically took advantage of Madison lack of size on the DL and just pounded them play after play and wore them down I told people on the sideline that the ironic thing is Columbia basically beat Madison with a taste of their own medicine and beat them the same way Madison beats all the 1a teams over the years and that's using the depth to wear them down and just pound the fight out of them, they have some athletes but Columbia game planned to hold them in check for most of the night and even when Madison got into the RedZone they couldn't pull the trigger I feel like Madison County can compete in 1R but they don't look like the favorite this season. Columbia if they played Union the same way we played Madison would have won but I'm not sure we shut Union out. We will see tomorrow against TCA just how far Columbia has come since that Union County game

I dropped them in mine and while creekside isn't bad they are lower ranked than Buchholz and Buchholz blowing teams out was the biggest thing boosting their rankings You see this sometimes even in college polls how a team may fall a few spots if the struggle with a lower ranked team Was it something like that @nolebull813

https://northflnews.com/week-4-high-school-football-rankings/

TCA is probably the last remaining team on the schedule that will challenge Columbia, overall I think it will come down to Columbia building off of last week and winning the turnover battle Through this season they won the turnover battle last 2 weeks and won the game, they lost the turnover battle the first 2 weeks and lost

I think the funniest part was when Madison fans basically kicked him out because they got tired of him making them look bad

Okay that I do agree with That's the biggest reason I would not favor a promotion regulation system as one if you stick the top division with 64 "top" teams you will have maybe 5-10 who actually have a shot at winning and the others are punished for being good not elite teams while someone far weaker will win division B and act like they better than division A teams As for the current system I could argue the top teams in 4S would compete or even beat the 4M winner so there will be instances if this sticks around long enough the suburban champ will be better than metro Tbh I think we are arguing in FAVOR of the same thing with metro/suburban being a step in the right direction

The issues that has always been clear and present to need metro suburban wasn't about being able to compete with good teams it's being unable to compete with schools that can load up on transfers That's always been the biggest issue that needed to be addressed but that can't be done because it doesn't fit the agenda of the governor's office who can pull the FHSAA funding if they step in the way and this was the only option that would even come close to accomplishing what was needed and that's get teams that perceivably can pull talent from larger areas and get them away from the rest of the state It doesn't stop transfers but it did put some of the biggest offenders of transfers in the metro classification which was the best the FHSAA could do

Columbia just beat the defending 1a champs 21-0 By your logic because Columbia is suburban they couldn't compete with any state champ the previous system which would be a lie What they can't compete with is the same teams Baker County and Buchholz couldn't compete with and that's metro schools that can get 15-20+ FBS transfers in a single off-season Explain how enrollment numbers is supposed to help a team compete with a team pulling from over a million population in a county?? I would love to see that argument

Again enrollment was just done because it was PERCEIVED that doing so was putting "like minded teams" together in classifications You can continue to argue that enrollment still matters but I can point to plenty of examples showing that teams in larger cities hold more an advantage over rural schools than an 8a school holds over an 1a school with actual examples The reason for the change is because of the open transfer movement it no longer creates a level playing field by ENROLLMENT alone If it did we wouldn't have seen such a discrepancy in metro teams not just beating suburban/rural teams but DEMOLISHING them in the finals and postseason

Okay so by that logic should we discredit the 1a champs from the last 10 years because they were facing weak competition? I don't see the problem because by that logic only the 8A champ should be considered a true champion even though none of the 8a champs have finished as the #1 unanimous ranked team by the Florida polls in the past decade so we also have problems there Point being why is that system a "true" system but the moment they use something besides enrollment as the "only" factor that it suddenly becomes an issue of teams not being the true champ Enrollment was only used because it was deemed that would put teams "on a level playing field" which is the same narrative of metro/suburban so if enrollment was only splitting teams to make them "teams on level playing field" how does metro/suburban change that? It's using a different way of doing the same thing so if the current championships aren't state champs then we haven't ever had a true state champs since they added multiple classifications in the 1960s

Plus some of these teams get embarrassed by decent Florida teams and don't make 1/3 the money to travel to the FL school I can see the logic in taking the payday to pay for other expenses, like when Columbia played IMG a few years ago we had our travel expenses covered and probably banked 2-3k after the fact plus a percentage of the gate We don't get paid that to travel to Jacksonville or Tallahassee

Ik in the past bad Jacksonville teams drive an hour across the border so they one don't stay overnight and 2 take yellow busses They definitely make good money traveling across the border Idk about some these SFL teams though

Especially that team one county west who decided to use an isolated incident to get out of playing Columbia in ALL sports the rest of the season Funny how it's supposed to be a county thing but Branford and Suwannee can still play Fort White but Branford and Suwannee aren't allowed to play Columbia even though Suwannee will play teams out of Jacksonville or Tallahassee which has gang issues worse than Lake City does

To be fair some of these teams actually take the games because one they make more money traveling to GA than hosting a game will make or two teams in their general area won't play them Ik Columbia playing a yearly series with Madison and TCA is because teams in our area won't play us or play those 2 so it helps both programs find games Too bad not everyone in North Florida are like TCA, Columbia and Madison when it comes to scheduling

This was proposed a few years ago and couldn't even pass the first round of voting by the coaches committee Problem is a lot of teams and areas represented on those committees are the ones who will try to game the system for their team/area but there are plenty of areas with no representation For example Bobby Johns was supposed to be a North Florida representative but I know during the COVID issue he didn't even talk to every team he's supposed to be representing because he claimed his entire area wanted the season to start at normal start time and both schools in Columbia County were standing against it even though he's out there claiming he talked to every team in his area which is clearly a lie

Check the scorestream thread of the game and you can see for yourself Overall this is definitely not the same Madison County team from past years, Columbia seemed to dominate them in the trenches and Madison was uncharacteristically high in penalty yards, personally unless Madison County can significantly improve I don't see them winning 1R this year Though I respect Madison for continuing to keep us on the schedule and best of luck the rest of the season

21-0 win for Columbia over Madison County First shutout for Columbia in the series since 1966

Some people don't get that they don't have a choice but someone should send him a link to Prep Gridiron board, he would fit right in

Did that have anything to do with the BSN post today about someone attacking players?

The cheerleaders, dance team and band are all high schoolers I'm sure they will find a way to be excited and bring energy to the game Maybe they can play for members of the media

None of those would be considered spectators as they are directly involved with the school if I had to guess

Not if It saves the lives of innocent players and coaches Maybe adults in the community should behave themselves and this wouldn't be necessary

Good on them, maybe when it's clear the dumbass adults in some these communities creating problems are robbed of being able to attend games than the mature adults will tell them "you ain't welcome to come if your gonna start trouble" Too many incidents in this state because of moron adults putting their egos ahead of the kids