youngandrunning

@Mashburns I don't want to speak with 100% certainty= just what I've been taught (or at least what I can remember), what I've inferred from experience as a coordinator and head coach at both 7A, 4A, 1A, and been told. 1 reason: They are not allowed to if the money is donated through kids (i.e. fundraiser, donations in the name of jimmy, etc). The reason being- that money is by kids and for kids. It should be well noted that most booster money comes from student fundraising and checks written on behalf of jimmy and his two little brothers. Money not raised from kids by redbook definition, could essentially go to a coaching staff- so long as the bilaws has provisions on how bonuses and payments are dispersed (or at least a calendar). 2 reason: They are not allowed to due to lack of a proficient finance operator within the booster. The Booster (if trying to allocate funds to a staff) would need to have seperate accounts for student raised money and 'random' donations. These random donations could be alumni, endowments, company sponsorships, etc etc. Too often all of the money goes into one account and the financial books are not established well enough to note the difference in what is raised by kids and donated without limits. Treasurers usually don't make copies, don't actually run a finance book, and only do audits when they are scared or a massive booster turnover. 3 reason: Most booster clubs, within bilaws, do not have a clause saying that a paying/active member cannot be part of the school board. The reason this is so important is because teachers cannot accept payments from within the school system that is not noted on pay stub. This is where things get sticky and a lot of my confusion starts. Small details such as where the meetings are held, meeting minutes, exact language, etc. All of these things cost money (i.e. lawyers for review), that most boosters aren't willing to pay due to the amount that the coach/kids would lose. 4 reason: Lack of audits. Pretty simple, most boosters try and skate by. That just doesn't cut it and rarely have the ability to approve certain allotment. Hope this clarifies some of my points, I also hope someone else with more experience can chime in.

From my understanding of education finances and ethics (i.e. redbook and certain allotments given by the state), Boosters that are governed, audited, or organized by a school official or within the school's county system cannot and will not give money to coach's because of misuse of funds that are (most often in booster language) allotted for and donated on behalf of the students it should benefit. If the booster has, within their bylaws, that their are to be no members that are part of the "local county" school board employee or "any other county" school board employee- then and only then should it be possible and allowed by the state. A large piece of this fancy pants language has to do with the FHSAA, and most of it's member schools, is still governed by state legislation and/or the same part of the government that directs state mandated testing and education laws and adjustments. If this booster money (the same booster that is associated with members of the local county school system) were to be allocated towards coaches it would then be considered "for profit" which is pretty much the complete opposite of public education. Kind of hard to read, kind of hard to digest, maybe someone can simplify what I'm trying to put out there.

It's pretty popular among smaller private schools and schools who are young and new and still creating their image as a school and a program. I believe it's through FCAPS, I know it's not through FHSAA.

What's the deal on 8 man teams transitioning to 11 man teams? I've posted in a forum or started one before and received little feedback. Even went over to coachuey website and got nothing. Just looking at a way to see if it's something I think can be positive for the school, the athletics, and most importantly the student athletes. Not to mention maybe not ruin my reputation within or out of the state as well. Why I keep asking-- because I've been contacted about being the transition guy, taking the bumps to make a program into something respected.

Forum readers and football lovers, Anyone have any insight into the transition from 8 man to 11 man football? Maybe any contacts to talk with about lumps suffered and things unexpected that happened? I'm an out of state assistant coach who has been contacted about the development of an 11 man program at a charter school within the state. Wanted the public's opinion and input on certain aspects. Hope all is well and football seasons are ending strong. Hope you enjoy your weather more than our 40 degrees in Kentucky!