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@PinellasFB if you we’re sitting around in Pinellas County and wanted to go check out a game, there are plenty of teams you can see that don’t look like JV teams. And still get all the experience you mentioned. Pinellas doesn’t have any top national or state ranked teams, but they at least have some decent to good ones to get the overall experience without compromising the gameplay. Lakewood, CCC, Clearwater, Largo, Countryside, East Lake, Osceola will give you just as much and probably more than Dixie Hollins, Seminole, Dunedin and Tarpon Springs will

Again that’s a huge misconception. That the worse you are at HSFB the better your emotion and effort is. The stronger your heart is. That’s B.S. You don’t have to seek out the worst teams you can find to experience any of things you and @PinellasFB mentioned.

I get the level of quality goes up and down with the strength of the opponents but you don’t have to go watch the worst teams possible to get everything you mentioned. The worst teams aren’t the only ones who exhibit those traits. That’s a misconception. That if you are good at HSFB that you cant show raw emotion, have a good band, and play your heart out. I call B.S. on that

If I had 7 female teammates on a 8 man high school team I would be playing like Travis Henry or Chris Rainey

They have the toughest schedule in state outside of maybe Chaminade or AHP. They just aren’t at that level yet. But everyone else under them would all lose to the same teams. But I do get if you are gonna schedule all these great teams you gotta show up!

Treasure Coast would dismantle about 35 teams via the running clock who are currently undefeated right now Out of Door Canterbury Interlachen Indian Rocks Christian Windermere Prep Sneads Palatka Williston Cypress Creek Horizon Toho Estero Newberry First Academy Westminster Christian Northside Christian Strawberry Crest Alonso Deltona Santaluces Northeview South Miami South Walton Chipley Baron Collier Springstead Ft Lauderdale Epsicopal Harmony Land O Lakes Chiefland NFC East Bay Walton Bishop Kenny

Clearly I have not. I get camaraderie. But you don’t have to be someone’s punching bag to achieve it

The issue with bad teams is the football is bad. The execution is bad. The quality is poor. It’s not a good product. When you apply that to any other aspect of life, you wouldn’t accept it. Like I said. It’s like eating $1 McDonalds burgers. You don’t eat it because you want to. You eat it out of necessity. So if you were in an area of the country that only had poor football then you can’t help it. But if you are near good football, you go with that. No need to prove you support bad football by wasting your time there. Lol.

From a fans perspective, you want to see high quality football being played. You don’t walk into something, and say you want to experience the worst this thing has to offer. So the nationally ranked teams are what you would seek out if you a fan of high quality football. imagine going to a restaurant where the food is horrible but the building is decked out in cool ambiance. You shouldn’t be criticized for pointing that out.

Yeah it’s cool when you are winning when usually you are always losing. Lol. Even if the opponents aren’t any good. Because you have to start somewhere. and it’s good timing too because I was going to ship them off to 8 man ball

Nevermind. All bad teams. But still cool for teams that aren’t good themselves.

Did they upset any teams? Who are the opponents?

I don’t agree. Being on a team that is a punching bag for everyone else can’t be a great bonding experience. If the only thing you have in common is you both aren’t good at football then the bond won’t hold very long. Lol. i believe 25 kids bonding together while being successful is more productive than 50 kids getting their asses handed to them for a couple months. This would trim the fat and the other kids that aren’t meant to play can go find another extracurricular activity to partake in. This isn’t a charity. This is competition

No.

Creekside is not good. I watched them against Glynn Academy. They looked bad. Undefeated means nothing. Treasure Coast is about to be 1-4 this weekend and would put a running clock on about 10-15 teams currently undefeated right now. And also sometimes when teams move down it’s not necessarily they didn’t anything wrong, but rather other teams were doing a lot of things right!!!

Just because kids have a dream of making it to college football should not sway the decision whether a program needs to change course. Truth is 99.9 percent of the kids who play for these programs don’t play college football so the impact is practically non existent. There are kids who have dreams of going to college but get D’s and F’s. Everything isn’t for everybody. Going to 8 man isn’t going to sway anyone because like I said the kids playing for these teams don’t go on to play college football.

The SSAC has it and they are sanctioned by the FHSAA

Saying “glorified JV team” wasn’t meant as an insult even though I understand how it can be taken that way. What I meant by it was the level of play is at the same level as junior varsity football of the better teams. There is no doubt in my mind that St Thomas Aquinas JV team would beat about 100 plus varsity teams in the state. It’s the same idea as the weaker FBS teams in college are at the level of the stronger FCS teams. That’s why there are FCS teams who win the matchups annually. And again what I was talking about in regards to working and preparing hard was teams playing other teams who they can put a running clock on

What’s the bylaws against going independent?

And SSAC teams have jumped in and out of the state series as well. So you don’t have to be doomed forever to that league. If you start to be a power in the “public school SSAC” then you make the jump back to the state series in the new cycle. I think it works for everyone. It makes the state series more competitive with the cutting of classes, and it makes the new league more competitive because all the teams are on an even scale

They would have to cut classes from the “state series” in that case. So it would all have to be done simultaneously, and locked in for 2 or 4 years. But it could be named something else kinda like the SSAC. That conference was created for the exact same reason but for privates. It was for small privates who have zero chance of winning in the FHSAA playoffs. So they compete for the SSAC title. So what you are suggesting could follow the same model as the SSAC for publics as well

And there is precedent. There is a ton of teams that started their football history playing 6 man before they moved up.

Do you think going 0-10 and 1-9 with mostly blowout losses is better than competing in 8 man and actually winning something? Or at least the better opportunity to win something? Most of these teams are just punching bags for the other local teams in the area. And why is 8 man such a bad thing? It’s just 3 less kids on the field. You can have a QB, a RB, 4 lineman and 2 receivers. What’s the big deal?

I can get down with that. I wasn’t trying to belittle how much effort a team puts into the season. In my opinion I do believe that teams practice and prepare harder the better the opponent is.

It was one of those things that the more I thought about it the better it sounded to me. Lol