Zoe Boy
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1 hour ago, OldSchoolLion said:
Zoe Boy, Going back to my original post, the main message was that I don't think transfers are as big an issue as some may think, at least from a numbers perspective. As far as the loss of one individual to a team, none of us truly understands the impact unless we have personal knowledge of the situation.
The net may actually be a positive if the kid who transferred was a disruptive force. Or there may be negative "losses" to a team that are hard to quantify. Human relationships are complex and different people in our lives bring different qualities to the party, whether its the playing field or the workplace.
I have given examples not to definitively say this or that. Have done so simply to suggest situations where there could be a substantial impact. Working together invariably leads to conflict that must be worked through, even if people know each other beforehand. That is basic team psychology that has been around for over 50 years.
I find it intriguing how kids know so many other kids today. When I was in high school, between athletics, maintaining a 4.0 average(unspoken expectation), chores at home, church life, and working a heavy manual labor job on weekends, I had little time or energy for socializing beyond my little circle. I wonder how kids manage.
Maybe they weren’t cell phones or the internet or social media’s back in your days..
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Once again y’all going by what y’all see on paper.. Lmao
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27 minutes ago, Pipe Dreams said:
You didn't answer the question I had.
By the way, too many schools to name with players who have played together for years. Most go 5-5, 6-4, 7-4, 8-3... but there are some good programs out there that are bottom up. Apopka, Winter Park, Lake Brantley, Lake Mary, DP all have good feeder systems from Pop Warner and a large chunk of the kids play together for years. It was like that on my HS team.
I'm just saying I hope somebody beats them.
I prefer HS football to be void of all star teams, which STA clearly is. I think it cheapens the game at the HS level. Care about it.
So you don’t think them players at STA never played together in pop warner or against each other? Let me ask you this all those schools you mention has one pop Warner feeder program or it’s a mixture of programs? N as for them being treated like IMG , why cause it’s a private school that been here ever since i was born (1983) ... Their roster is mainly made up of Broward kids sprinkled in with some Dade kids... One more thing to add on, don’t upset at STA for kids and parents wanting to go there.. It’s not there fault... As it cheapens the game that’s your opinion cause nobody down here is complaining about STA... Strap them up and let’s ride.. Atleast down here it is... Let me know since STA is “stack” why their qb don’t scare anyone.. Their offense don’t scare anyone.. I can name atleast 10-15 QB’s that’s better then anything STA has...
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I will dm you mines later on
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5 minutes ago, Pipe Dreams said:
Why are they not classified like IMG?
Losing an in-state game with that amount of talent is the equivalent of a losing season, IMO.
As usual I'm hoping a public school with guys who have played together for 5+ years shows them the business.
Ah man we at this again? Lmao!!! Name me a school that have their team with players that played with players that been there all 5 years like you say...
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18 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
I didn't say they couldn't be. I stated "there is no guarantee" they will be accepted as leaders. And it takes time to earn respect. Every one of us who has served in leadership roles probably has a story in which it took us time to earn the respect of people and recognition as a true leader, not just a leader "by stripes."
Likewise, many of us have lost a team member who may not have been the most talented, but was the glue that helped hold the team together. My point is simply that we must look at things beyond raw physical talent when evaluating gains/losses of team members.
Larry Bluestien said this the other day. We’re at a time where every kid knows each other.. A kid leaving to another school like a STA since you like to mention them probably knows the half the team already.. McAurthor done had there share of players transferring in too... Transfers been always happening n it ain’t dying... As far as that glue players holding the team together your telling me that sophomore DT player that left would of been the leader of a Dillard team with other sr’s on the team?
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1 hour ago, OldSchoolLion said:
If Columbia "traded out" its 2 most endeared team leaders today, I bet there would be a very substantial impact to the team, even if the new players were equally talented.
So the DT that left to STA from Dillard which is a sophomore or a jr can’t remember your saying he’s a leader but 2 studs that transfer in to Dillard who are Sr’s cant come in n be that?
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56 minutes ago, OldSchoolLion said:
There are presently 388 varsity hs players in Florida who, according to the 'experts," have the potential to be FBS-level. 45 of them are currently at IMG or St Thomas Aquinas(STA-24, IMG-21). IMG gets the press for being the national all-star team, but STA actually has more star power on paper! Of those 388 players, 116 are 4- or 5-star players, and 24 of those 116 are presently at STA or IMG.
This past season, excluding IMG players, 18% of 4/5-star seniors in Florida had transferred to a school for their senior year. So, let's assume that 18% of ALL FBS-quality players do the same each year. And let's assume the IMG and STA players will not be transferring "out."
That leaves us with a pool of 343 players (388-45 at STA and IMG), 92 of which are 4 or 5 stars. 18% of 343 equals 62. So, based on the assumptions above, in any one year, 62 "FBS quality" players are transferring each year in the state. And of those 62, 17 are 4 or 5-star players.
38% of the current 388 FBS-quality players are in Miami-Dade or Broward. So, it is probably a safe assumption that a large portion of the aforementioned 62 transfers will be taking place in those 2 counties.
Relatively speaking, we are not talking huge numbers here. We hear about lots of transfers, but should keep in mind that many of these kids are not going to make a great or even good team out of a mediocre one. I could not find a single instance of an individual team getting 10 "D1" transfers. 3 is the norm, and that is for the best teams.
I do think transfers are making a notable difference in two ways. First, I think a high-level transfer(s) could be the difference in a matchup between two very good, closely-matched teams. As an example, Marcus Lafrance, an excellent cornerback at Deerfield Beach, transferred from Ely this past year and intercepted a potential game-winning TD against Chaminade. Maybe it would not have made a difference..we'll never know.
Second, in large metro areas, certain fair/good programs may only be losing one or two, high-profile players each year, but if those players are team leaders and their former team had few "great" players to begin with, those losses could be a huge blow. I believe this is what is happening in places like Broward County. For example, Dillard lost two high profile players this past season, one to St Thomas(Ingraham) and another to Deerfield Beach(Boyd). It is hard to quantify the impact that will have on Dillard's team this year from a leadership perspective, but no doubt it is significant.
Are you gonna count the 2 studs that transferred in to Dillard?
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Was it south plantation or south Broward that had that rb that went to Arkansas ?
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3 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
How many gamebreaking playmakers from Broward County schools, not including ST Thomas Aquinas and American Heritage, can you name since Tyrone Moss was at Ely?
Patrick Peterson
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3 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
This will be a disaster event for Florida teams. Stoneman Douglas is hot garbage. This Canadian team has been having open tryouts in recruiting all around the country.
Mainland is a shell of their self. They will have their worst year since 2010. Bob Jones is state ranked
AHP got worked by a nationally ranked power and lost way too much firepower to keep up with SJR who is always stacked with talent and great coaching. AHP leaves a lot to be desired coaching wise. They are used to just having much more talent than their opponents. For this game they will have neither
Wekiva has a great defense but so does NG. But Wekiva won't be able to score points and keep pace with NG. North Gwinnett is much more balanced than them. They will pull away and show why they are top two in Georgia
If Cardinal Gibbons quarterback is injured they lose for sure. If he is good to go then the game is a tossup. Central destroyed them. Milton is a strong, quality team who will be at home.
Chaminade is the only clear cut favorite. They should win with ease.
If Florida doesn't get 2 upsets and go 3-3 it will be considered a disaster
I was at the AHP game . Defensive wise their big fast and athletic.. AHP defense will hold their own.. Their offense imo the qb is good n have speed in the outside.. They still have size on the line .. My thing was their I.C. Was calling some suspect calls n their oline got bullied by Carol City dline... Should be a close game..
I was at the Caridinal Gibbons vs Central game also.. Cardinal Gibbons qb is fine n expected to play next week. They have a great rb which I felt should of have more touches.. The qb is a gamer!!! They should have no problem also..
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The refs at Gibbons we’re horrible!!!
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Central 48
Gibbons 21 4th
Gibbons getting a lot of home cooking calls
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3 hours ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Streaming?
Idk best thing to do is look at Facebook live tomorrow
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Deerfield Beach 13
Chaminade 3 3rd
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Belle Glade 0
University 28 H
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Krop 0
Miami 18 3rd
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Da West 30
Miramar 12 F
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Booker T 36
Dillard 20 F
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30 minutes ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:
Any word about CG vs Central?
Tomorrow
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Carol City 34
AHP 10 3rd
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Nayquan Wright 1st carry 80yds td
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3 hours ago, XDC said:
Headed down South to see, in my estimation, one of the better games in the state tonight. While early, this one should tell us a lot about how things are going to shake out down South this year. Excited to watch a couple of former players go to work on a pretty big stage. Should be fun.
Should you also be in attendance, let me know. Would love to talk ball.
XDC
Me and Broward is here sitting in the Carol City side
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