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Maybe somebody can help me out... For FHSAA ranking purposes: 1)If you are calculating your opponent's winning percentage do you include your victory/loss in the calculation? Example: Team A: 3 Wins, 3 Losses, .500 winning percentage Your team beat Team A, do you use the .600 winning percentage (if you disregard their loss to you) or do you use the .500 winning percentage? 2) Same question, but with opponent opponent's winning percentage 3) do you average the winning percentages (of opponents and opponents opponent's) or do you take the total number of wins of opponents and divide by the total number of games played? I am sure the FHSAA will have this under control, but it is a lot more work than the previous system to get right.

Many years ago I suggested it and still stand by it, but teams should move up or down, not based on their enrollment, but on their on-field/court success. As your team improves, then you play tougher competition by moving up a classification, as your team struggles, you move down a classification. There is little reason in today's age that teams that powerhouse teams should be in districts with the chronically failing. If we want programs to grow, they have to feel like they have a chance to win or otherwise we are setting them up for failure. In football, they could do it in 2 year cycles. In other sports, one year cycles. There is little reason for Chaminade-Madonna and Trinity Christian to be in 3A move them up until they find a level in which we aren't already penciling them into the state finals. Move the top 10 teams in 7A up to 8A, move the worst 10 in 8A down. Repeat the process for 3A-8A. If you are a brand new school who should be in 8A, we are starting you in 3A.

I agree Josh. Other than adding Raines or Trinity Christian or Ponte Vedra or Fletcher or Sandalwood, I think the games looked good and if Jag's number are corrected with 21K, then that is amazing. My question about the success is if it had more to do with it being opening weekend, no mass amounts of college football, and being a fresh new thing for the area. I am more wondering if they did this in week 5 and had the same games would it still be as successful. Anything that grows this level of the sport is positive.

Jags, With Duval County switching to 6 pm start times, do you think this could be a solution with playing on Saturdays or do you think crowd like this is a mixture of opening week, 2 large public schools nearby (Mandarin/ACHS), and 2 very large good teams in the area? In other words, other than inviting Raines (and there being a better Bolles team) to play do you think this was as good as a weekend they could hope for?

Bartram Trail 48 Robert E Lee 20 Story Mandarin 28 Atlantic Coast 12 Story University Christian 21 Bolles 14 Story The crowds seemed to be pretty good overall. I hope this becomes something they do every year.

9-0 already for St. Francis MC already has 2 3 and outs on offense. It is not looking good so far.

Changing world we live in. The school, community, and message boards like this focus so much on "winning" that coaches feel the need to implement over the top training programs to try and only have super dedicated kids to the program. Neither the kids story nor his make feel like there are any real winners in this situation. 6:30 AM practice for a specific amount of time (assuming weightlifting/conditioning/film) 8:20 AM class until 3:00 PM 3:30 PM until 6:30 PM for practice. If you assume 30 minute travel from school to home, 45 minutes for shower and dinner, and 8 hours sleep that is maybe 2 hours for homework, work, volunteer, church, and just being a normal teen. When exactly were they supposed to be students? I will never understand the idea of mandatory summer practice. I think coaches should be fired for even suggesting the idea. I believe in positive reinforcement for coming to summer practice, not that you are off the team before the season even starts because you didn't come to summer practice. The article also makes me hate colleges/universities that would show interest in a kid with 22 ACT when I know kids with the same GPA and 32/33/34s ACT who the listed universities would never even look at students. I get that as athletes, academic credentials might be lower but that isn't even in the same ball park as what those schools require. They used to require management classes in college and one of the things they will tell you is you don't try to change the culture overnight. You focus on 1 or 2 things that you are not willing to bend on. Maybe it was morning practices. Maybe it was study hall, but you don't try to overhaul everything in the first month on the job otherwise you get rebellion. Too many changes, too fast. This is the problem, we expect a win now mentality when we don't understand that improvement takes time to build. In looking at the record of Taylor County over the past 10 years, they look like a solid program with an occasional down year. So it is not like Taylor County was this lawless, winless program, but a decent program. Build on that without saying everything you did before sucked. Players have gold fish memories. After 1 year 2 years nobody will remember the old ways. So make small changes. I look at the kicker/pre-game meal situation as the coach screwing up. It would have been faster for the kid to run out his mom's car, grab the shoes, and be back in the cafeteria than the time the coach spent talking to him.

I believe that was the Gainesville game. They had a downpour on a Thursday night game and then moved the game to Friday night, but in Lake City so that the game could be played in the same week and not to disrupt the schedules. Additionally, I believe they allowed this year's game to go back to Gainesville.

There are times that I gladly stand with the FHSAA, but this isn't one of them. Pay them the $10 per game, no ref is getting rich off it. Individually, the ref makes maybe $200 more a year if they work every JV and Varsity. For a school, it costs less than a $1000. The FHSAA is going to spend more on travel stipends to cover the refs than the increase would be. https://www.news-press.com/story/sports/high-school/football/2019/08/12/fhsaa-revokes-sanction-lee-county-officials/1987151001/

While this is is not the thread for my question, I wonder how much consistency with the assistant coaches matters versus the consistency with the head coach. For example, if we went and looked at one of the teams on the list that has had 2-3 coaches, would we notice that the assistant coaches are the same from year to year even as the head coach changes. If we looked at a struggling school, would we fine that not only do the head coaches consistently change, but the assistants as well. Lots of research shows that struggling schools have constant teacher turnover. I wonder if the same would be true for struggling football programs.

Raines Bishop Moore

All guesses Miami Central St. Thomas Aquinas Dwyer Bolles Plant Niceville Vero Beach Apopka Lakeland Manatee Venice Mainland Dr. Phillips Vanguard Madison County Columbia

I will always believe that school districts should fund the basics of extra curriculars. Uniforms, common sense travel, referees, playing fields, equipment, and security. If not, don't offer the sport.

Sam Madison FAMU

They are asking for $10 more per game for 8 officials a game for maybe 5 varsity and 4 JV home games per school? So $720 for the year per school? If our counties can't afford that, please shutter the programs.

Gus Scott- Trinity Christian - UF?

To pad my stats... I am sure somebody will know, but why are they South Sumter High School? Was there a northern, eastern, western, or central in the past? Why not just Sumter County High School or Sumter High School? I actually don't know the answer, just curious.

Ed White HS - Dee Webb/UF Raines - Lito Sheppard/UF Raines - Brian Dawkins/Clemson

Dwyer - Matt Elam UF/Baltimore? I think his brother Abram (Abe) Elam (Cardinal Newman-West Palm Beach, '00) was actually a better professional (104 games across 7 seasons), but Matt was a much bigger name out of high school. Abram did play at Notre Dame and eventually found his way to Kent State. Kaiir Elam, class of 2019, signed with UF, is Abram's son.

Leroy Butler S FSU/Green Bay

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Glad to see them doing this. Always surprised that this doesn't happen more often. I stand by the fact that I think Week 1, the local pro sports teams should offer up their stadiums for free for the experience. https://www.news4jax.com/sports/inaugural-bold-city-showcase-features-3-football-games-to-open-season

Hardee is the 27th ranked county in terms of teacher salaries, just behind St. Johns County and $2,000 less than the state average.

https://www.news4jax.com/video/keeping-the-coaches-pay-differences-video

Nothing new, we have seen a similar article every 2 years or so. I was talking to a teacher/coach who is involved with their union. The district offered a 10% increase in stipends and the union rejected it because they wanted the money to go to teacher salaries and not stipends. But yes, low coach pay all around. Miami-Dade and Broward being two of the worst surprises me. https://www.news4jax.com/sports/sad-state-of-pay-florida-high-school-coaches-earn-little-compared-to-others