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Volleyball GADSDEN * JEFFERSON * (1) SANTA ROSA $7,171 (2) WALTON $5,200 (3) COLLIER $5,000 (4) CHARLOTTE $4,969 (5) GLADES $4,750 (6) BAY $4,562 (7) ESCAMBIA $4,511 (8) WAKULLA $4,320 (9) MARTIN $4,262 (10) ST. LUCIE $4,160 (11) FRANKLIN $3,955 (12) UNION $3,894 (13) HARDEE $3,812 (14) WASHINGTON $3,780 (15) SARASOTA $3,750 (16) SUMTER $3,728 (17) LEON $3,660 (18) MONROE $3,625 (19) PALM BEACH $3,611 (20) JACKSON $3,558 (21) BRADFORD $3,500 (22) CLAY $3,500 (23) FLAGLER $3,500 (24) LIBERTY $3,500 (25) ST. JOHNS $3,500 (26) DESOTO $3,294 (27) LAFAYETTE $3,261 (28) HIGHLANDS $3,240 (29) TAYLOR $3,240 (30) HENDRY $3,236 (31) OKEECHOBEE $3,200 (32) COLUMBIA $3,127 (33) MANATEE $3,093 (34) INDIAN RIVER $3,003 (35) OSCEOLA $2,987 (36) PINELLAS $2,948 (37) MIAMI-DADE $2,946 (38) BREVARD $2,918 (39) VOLUSIA $2,901 (40) MADISON $2,893 (41) NASSAU $2,846 (42) HOLMES $2,824 (43) CALHOUN $2,750 (44) CITRUS $2,749 (45) HERNANDO $2,735 (46) POLK $2,600 (47) GILCHRIST $2,587 (48) HAMILTON $2,577 (49) DUVAL $2,520 (50) SUWANNEE $2,500 (51) BAKER $2,470 (52) GULF $2,433 (53) LEE $2,430 (54) PASCO $2,387 (55) OKALOOSA $2,366 (56) DIXIE $2,360 (57) ORANGE $2,201 (58) MARION $2,200 (59) BROWARD $2,169 (60) LAKE $2,147 (61) ALACHUA $2,130 (62) SEMINOLE $2,130 (63) HILLSBOROUGH $1,997 (64) LEVY $1,980 (65) PUTNAM $1,878

Softball GADSDEN * JEFFERSON * (1) SANTA ROSA $7,171 (2) COLLIER $5,000 (3) MARION $5,000 (4) CHARLOTTE $4,969 (5) WALTON $4,800 (6) GLADES $4,750 (7) BAY $4,562 (8) ESCAMBIA $4,511 (9) SARASOTA $4,500 (10) WAKULLA $4,320 (11) MARTIN $4,262 (12) HOLMES $4,233 (13) HARDEE $4,217 (14) CLAY $4,200 (15) ST. LUCIE $4,160 (16) OKALOOSA $4,127 (17) GULF $4,056 (18) TAYLOR $4,050 (19) HIGHLANDS $3,960 (20) FRANKLIN $3,955 (21) MANATEE $3,926 (22) UNION $3,894 (23) WASHINGTON $3,780 (24) SUMTER $3,728 (25) LEON $3,660 (26) MONROE $3,625 (27) PALM BEACH $3,611 (28) JACKSON $3,558 (29) BRADFORD $3,500 (30) FLAGLER $3,500 (31) LIBERTY $3,500 (32) ST. JOHNS $3,500 (33) DESOTO $3,294 (34) LAFAYETTE $3,261 (35) HENDRY $3,236 (36) OKEECHOBEE $3,200 (37) OSCEOLA $3,161 (38) CALHOUN $3,148 (39) NASSAU $3,129 (40) COLUMBIA $3,127 (41) BAKER $3,090 (42) SEMINOLE $3,076 (43) INDIAN RIVER $3,003 (44) POLK $3,000 (45) PINELLAS $2,948 (46) MIAMI-DADE $2,946 (47) BREVARD $2,918 (48) VOLUSIA $2,901 (49) MADISON $2,893 (50) GILCHRIST $2,800 (51) ORANGE $2,770 (52) CITRUS $2,749 (53) HERNANDO $2,735 (54) ALACHUA $2,592 (55) HAMILTON $2,577 (56) DUVAL $2,520 (57) LAKE $2,514 (58) SUWANNEE $2,500 (59) LEE $2,430 (60) PASCO $2,387 (61) DIXIE $2,360 (62) HILLSBOROUGH $2,243 (63) LEVY $2,200 (64) BROWARD $2,169 (65) PUTNAM $1,878

Soccer BRADFORD * CALHOUN * GADSDEN * HOLMES * JEFFERSON * LIBERTY * MADISON * UNION * (1) SANTA ROSA $7,171 (2) COLLIER $5,000 (3) CHARLOTTE $4,969 (4) WALTON $4,800 (5) GLADES $4,750 (6) BAY $4,562 (7) ESCAMBIA $4,511 (8) TAYLOR $4,455 (9) WAKULLA $4,320 (10) MARTIN $4,262 (11) ST. LUCIE $4,160 (12) GULF $4,056 (13) FRANKLIN $3,955 (14) HARDEE $3,812 (15) SARASOTA $3,750 (16) SUMTER $3,725 (17) MANATEE $3,714 (18) LEON $3,660 (19) MONROE $3,625 (20) PALM BEACH $3,611 (21) JACKSON $3,558 (22) SEMINOLE $3,550 (23) CLAY $3,500 (24) FLAGLER $3,500 (25) ST. JOHNS $3,500 (26) DESOTO $3,294 (27) LAFAYETTE $3,261 (28) HIGHLANDS $3,240 (29) HENDRY $3,236 (30) OSCEOLA $3,161 (31) COLUMBIA $3,127 (32) INDIAN RIVER $3,003 (33) MIAMI-DADE $2,946 (34) BREVARD $2,918 (35) VOLUSIA $2,901 (36) OKEECHOBEE $2,900 (37) NASSAU $2,846 (38) ORANGE $2,770 (39) CITRUS $2,749 (40) HERNANDO $2,735 (41) POLK $2,600 (42) HAMILTON $2,577 (43) WASHINGTON $2,531 (44) DUVAL $2,520 (45) LAKE $2,514 (46) SUWANNEE $2,500 (47) LEE $2,430 (48) PINELLAS $2,405 (49) PASCO $2,387 (50) OKALOOSA $2,366 (51) MARION $2,200 (52) BROWARD $2,169 (53) ALACHUA $2,130 (54) GILCHRIST $2,032 (55) PUTNAM $1,878 (56) HILLSBOROUGH $1,837 (57) BAKER $1,390 (58) DIXIE $1,300 (59) LEVY $1,100

Basketball GADSDEN * JEFFERSON * (1) SANTA ROSA $7,171 (2) OKALOOSA $6,043 (3) COLLIER $6,000 (4) WALTON $6,000 (5) MARTIN $5,902 (6) MARION $5,000 (7) CHARLOTTE $4,969 (8) ESCAMBIA $4,922 (9) CLAY $4,760 (10) GLADES $4,750 (11) SARASOTA $4,750 (12) INDIAN RIVER $4,733 (13) HARDEE $4,652 (14) HOLMES $4,585 (15) BAY $4,562 (16) PALM BEACH $4,532 (17) GULF $4,461 (18) TAYLOR $4,455 (19) WAKULLA $4,320 (20) MANATEE $4,296 (21) VOLUSIA $4,256 (22) ST. LUCIE $4,160 (23) OSCEOLA $4,033 (24) ST. JOHNS $4,000 (25) HIGHLANDS $3,960 (26) FRANKLIN $3,955 (27) LAFAYETTE $3,903 (28) UNION $3,894 (29) WASHINGTON $3,780 (30) JACKSON $3,765 (31) SUMTER $3,728 (32) LEON $3,660 (33) BAKER $3,630 (34) MONROE $3,625 (35) ALACHUA $3,608 (36) NASSAU $3,578 (37) SEMINOLE $3,550 (38) BRADFORD $3,500 (39) FLAGLER $3,500 (40) GILCHRIST $3,500 (41) LIBERTY $3,500 (42) CALHOUN $3,462 (43) PINELLAS $3,315 (44) HAMILTON $3,313 (45) DESOTO $3,294 (46) HENDRY $3,236 (47) OKEECHOBEE $3,200 (48) DUVAL $3,150 (49) COLUMBIA $3,127 (50) ORANGE $3,035 (51) PASCO $3,031 (52) LAKE $3,022 (53) POLK $3,000 (54) MIAMI-DADE $2,946 (55) BREVARD $2,918 (56) MADISON $2,893 (57) LEVY $2,750 (58) HILLSBOROUGH $2,750 (59) CITRUS $2,749 (60) HERNANDO $2,735 (61) LEE $2,633 (62) BROWARD $2,604 (63) SUWANNEE $2,500 (64) DIXIE $2,360 (65) PUTNAM $1,994

Baseball GADSDEN * JEFFERSON * (1) SANTA ROSA $7,171 (2) COLLIER $5,000 (3) MARION $5,000 (4) CHARLOTTE $4,969 (5) WALTON $4,800 (6) GLADES $4,750 (7) BAY $4,562 (8) ESCAMBIA $4,511 (9) SARASOTA $4,500 (10) TAYLOR $4,455 (11) WAKULLA $4,320 (12) MARTIN $4,262 (13) HOLMES $4,233 (14) HARDEE $4,217 (15) CLAY $4,200 (16) ST. LUCIE $4,160 (17) OKALOOSA $4,127 (18) GULF $4,056 (19) ST. JOHNS $4,000 (20) HIGHLANDS $3,960 (21) FRANKLIN $3,955 (22) MANATEE $3,926 (23) UNION $3,894 (24) WASHINGTON $3,780 (25) SUMTER $3,728 (26) LEON $3,660 (27) MONROE $3,625 (28) PALM BEACH $3,611 (29) JACKSON $3,558 (30) BRADFORD $3,500 (31) FLAGLER $3,500 (32) LIBERTY $3,500 (33) DESOTO $3,294 (34) LAFAYETTE $3,261 (35) HENDRY $3,236 (36) OKEECHOBEE $3,200 (37) OSCEOLA $3,161 (38) CALHOUN $3,148 (39) NASSAU $3,129 (40) COLUMBIA $3,127 (41) BAKER $3,090 (42) SEMINOLE $3,076 (43) INDIAN RIVER $3,003 (44) POLK $3,000 (45) PINELLAS $2,948 (46) MIAMI-DADE $2,946 (47) BREVARD $2,918 (48) VOLUSIA $2,901 (49) MADISON $2,893 (50) GILCHRIST $2,800 (51) ORANGE $2,770 (52) CITRUS $2,749 (53) HERNANDO $2,735 (54) ALACHUA $2,592 (55) HAMILTON $2,577 (56) DUVAL $2,520 (57) LAKE $2,514 (58) SUWANNEE $2,500 (59) HILLSBOROUGH $2,443 (60) LEE $2,430 (61) PASCO $2,387 (62) DIXIE $2,360 (63) LEVY $2,200 (64) BROWARD $2,169 (65) PUTNAM $1,994

ATHLETIC DIRECTORS CHARLOTTE * COLLIER * GADSDEN * HILLSBOROUGH * HOLMES * JEFFERSON * MARION * MARTIN * OKALOOSA * PINELLAS * ST. JOHNS * (1) CALHOUN $8,000 (2) TAYLOR $7,695 (3) SARASOTA $7,500 (4) SANTA ROSA $7,171 (5) HARDEE $7,001 (6) HENDRY $6,684 (7) BRADFORD $6,500 (8) WAKULLA $6,480 (9) BAY $6,386 (10) INDIAN RIVER $6,360 (11) LEE $6,075 (12) GLADES $5,938 (13) SEMINOLE $5,914 (14) HIGHLANDS $5,760 (15) GULF $5,678 (16) MANATEE $5,591 (17) PALM BEACH $5,420 (18) PASCO $5,315 (19) CLAY $5,250 (20) BREVARD $5,238 (21) DUVAL $5,224 (22) NASSAU $5,173 (23) ESCAMBIA $5,076 (24) MIAMI-DADE $5,037 (25) UNION $5,006 (26) LAKE $5,000 (27) OKEECHOBEE $5,000 (28) POLK $5,000 (29) BAKER $4,865 (30) LAFAYETTE $4,814 (31) MONROE $4,700 (32) HERNANDO $4,622 (33) FRANKLIN $4,614 (34) LEON $4,575 (35) BROWARD $4,490 (36) OSCEOLA $4,319 (37) VOLUSIA $4,256 (38) PUTNAM $4,250 (39) CITRUS $4,043 (40) DESOTO $4,026 (41) JACKSON $4,014 (42) COLUMBIA $3,811 (43) ST. LUCIE $3,800 (44) ALACHUA $3,795 (45) ORANGE $3,795 (46) SUMTER $3,728 (47) HAMILTON $3,680 (48) FLAGLER $3,500 (49) SUWANNEE $3,300 (50) MADISON $3,134 (51) WASHINGTON $2,531 (52) LEVY $2,200 (53) DIXIE $2,100 (54) LIBERTY $2,000 (55) GILCHRIST $1,800 (56) WALTON $1,200

I am sure some real journalist will do an article about this in the next 3-4 months (they do every year it seems), but we often talk about coaches' salaries, so here they are as best I can. Some counties pay coaches as administrators, so I didn't include them, some union contracts are not available. Additionally, this doesn't count any additional benefits that a coach might receive as a teacher (less classes, summer workouts, weightlifting etc.), this is just their fall and spring supplement. This is probably not 100% correct, but it is pretty close. FOOTBALL BAY * GADSDEN * JEFFERSON * WALTON * (1) OKALOOSA $27,671 (2) COLLIER $8,000 (3) SANTA ROSA $7,171 (4) HARDEE $7,100 (5) ESCAMBIA $7,025 (6) BRADFORD $7,000 (7) HOLMES $6,701 (8) WAKULLA $6,480 (9) CLAY $6,388 (10) WASHINGTON $6,313 (11) CHARLOTTE $6,211 (12) UNION $6,119 (13) MONROE $6,025 (14) SARASOTA $6,000 (15) INDIAN RIVER $5,957 (16) GLADES $5,938 (17) MARTIN $5,902 (18) HIGHLANDS $5,760 (19) ST. JOHNS $5,750 (20) TAYLOR $5,670 (21) HENDRY $5,631 (22) ST. LUCIE $5,520 (23) JACKSON $5,379 (24) MANATEE $5,049 (25) MARION $5,000 (26) OKEECHOBEE $5,000 (27) CALHOUN $4,960 (28) NASSAU $4,940 (29) LEON $4,880 (30) GULF $4,867 (31) SUMTER $4,853 (32) MIAMI-DADE $4,749 (33) DIXIE $4,700 (34) LEE $4,658 (35) ALACHUA $4,629 (36) COLUMBIA $4,616 (37) FRANKLIN $4,614 (38) PALM BEACH $4,532 (39) LAFAYETTE $4,505 (40) FLAGLER $4,500 (41) POLK $4,500 (42) PASCO $4,476 (43) HAMILTON $4,416 (44) BAKER $4,350 (45) MADISON $4,339 (46) SUWANNEE $4,300 (47) VOLUSIA $4,256 (48) HERNANDO $4,200 (49) OSCEOLA $4,112 (50) CITRUS $4,043 (51) DESOTO $4,030 (52) SEMINOLE $4,020 (53) DUVAL $3,994 (54) ORANGE $3,795 (55) BREVARD $3,742 (56) HILLSBOROUGH $3,736 (57) LIBERTY $3,700 (58) LAKE $3,632 (59) LEVY $3,620 (60) PINELLAS $3,570 (61) GILCHRIST $3,500 (62) PUTNAM $3,500 (63) BROWARD $3,038

Miami Carol City

Umatilla - New Coach Eric Samuels University (Orange City) - New Coach Justin Roberts Northside Christian - New Coach Bailey Granier Oak Ridge (Orlando) - Andrew Anderson The Master's Academy (Oviedo)

I like the fact that they are acknowledging that school size isn't the only factor that goes into success. Still doesn't solve the problem on a week to week basis in terms of the lack of competitiveness. But this only works if we start eliminating classes, not adding more to it. Also I think it is funny that some of the proposals automatically assume that Rural Designation is part of suburban rather than its own designation outside of Suburban and Metro.

I guess some of the coaches of the suburban and metro areas do not agree with @Jambun82assessment that Metro and Suburban classes were a success and want even more classes. I love the fact that Florida posters used to raze on New Jersey for having all different "championships" but in reality, that is what Florida wanted all along. And again these coaches have a fundamental misunderstanding of what leads to classification competitiveness, and it isn't school size.

@DisabledAccount Columbia (Lake City)

Gulf Breeze Fort Walton Beach - New Coach Bobby Clayton

I understand, but if it is the most important sport, shouldn't we have tested this unproven idea on the non-popular sports. As much as I talk about the promotion/relegation idea, the idea works even better in the other team sports as they rise and fall much quicker.

The better question is why not apply the logic to all team sports rather than just football. In a sport like basketball, one kid changing has a larger impact that one kid changing in football (1 of 5, vs 1 of 22).

Atlantic Coast - New Coach Step Durham

Central Florida Christian (Orlando) Astronaut (Titusville) Southwest Florida Christian (Fort Myers) Wolfson (Jacksonville)

I think the problem is not all transfers are equal and this why this idea doesn't work as it suggests that all transfers are equal and they aren't. There is difference between an All-Area kid 3 year starter transferring from an average team to a powerhouse versus a 2nd or 3rd stringer who nobody has ever heard of transferring to a school to get more playing time. While we get frustrated by all transfers, I think the first transfer is the one that frustrates us more and those are the transfers that we are really talking about when we say we want to "limit" them. Honestly, I don't think the FHSAA is in any position to truly stop these type of transfers, unless there is outright recruiting by the head coach or staff. It would require the Florida Department of Education to go after teaching licenses or something of that vain. One of the reasons why a promotion/relegation system might work is that if you are that kid transferring to Leto (as @181pl suggests), and you still go 2-8, who cares. You got more playing time, but you didn't throw off the competitive balance.

Can I put all my money on Chaminade-Madonna to win again? Maybe Trinity Christian comes back (I consider their loss to University Christian to be a fluke). Maybe Cardinal Newman gets enough recruits to be competitive.

Why poke the cow? Let it lay dormant forever, please. As an outsider, I am betting they will be better next year. I think Union, Williston, and Chiefland will all be better as well, so Hawthorne probably doesn't steamroll it.

I tried to figure out a way to do it over 5 years rather than just to rip the band aid (so for a Trinity Christian isn't immediately thrown in with the highest level teams, but rather works it way up over 5 years). The reality was that it just didn't work. Additionally, I needed to make the (6A) 2nd level down smaller. While the 32 for the top class gave us a full playoff and I think most people realize those are all really good teams and the gap between them while MaxPreps rating wise is large that the gap isn't that large on the field. The next 32 the gap is pretty small, but when you start getting to the next 33-64 the gap starts gets bigger, so it made more sense to shrink 6A down to 32 which then put other numbers into question. I would say if that if I was forced to add Rural and the independents into the Pyramid (I would lose a class 1A, but regain it in terms of numbers). Also the numbers just worked out cleaner with 32-32-64-64-128-128 then my previous numbers. There is a nice symmetry to it.

I would rather see something like this in the individual sports first (golf, weightlifting, track, tennis, wrestling) and then to other team sports and then football. As for FHSAA $$$ concerns, the FHSAA budget was 6.6 million. I am surprised that the 3 NFL teams, the 2 NBA teams, 2 MLB teams, and 2 MLS teams don't get together and say, we got this for you as you provide our future fans and athletes. Or that state legislators don't fund it since they want to run it anyway.

As for playoffs/seedings for 7A, 6A, and 1A/R, I am fine with the previous RPI (which was transparent) or even the current MaxPreps rankings (they are not transparent, but have a level of trust, and are what we are basing promotions/relegations on). I know that means different ways for getting into playoffs, but I think that is responding to the needs of the system. Cycles would be 2 years for football (and 1 year for non-football team sports as turnover happens quicker in those sports). For rural, I think the biggest success has been from the communities themselves and not just in football, but all team sports. In 2009, Franklin County Boys Basketball had a once in a lifetime team and ran into the buzzsaw known as Arlington Country Day. I like to think that the rural classification would benefited a team like that instead of the Madison County's of the world. But to go with your point based on same thing that classified other programs: Madison County would be in 7A (just barely) Hawthorne and Pahokee in 5A, Chiefland and Blountstown in 4A 12 teams would be in 3A 19 teams would be in 2A And probably a lot of these rural schools would be willing to play other schools like themselves in ability rather than just common community characteristics. If I was FHSAA, I would probably want to hear that the majority of the rural schools wanted it, before I disbanded it. The reason why I didn't do geography based for 7A and 6A was because we want the best 2 to be in the finals. If those two are Miami Northwestern (All Bout 'Da West) and Miami Central, so be it. I would also assume if you are making into 7A or 6A, that your school and community have invested into your program for a couple of games. I would also think the gates would be bigger with quality opponents. _____________ As for promotion/relegation itself, this would be based on the 4 year averages of MaxPreps 7A: send 4 down to 6A 6A: send 4 down to 5A, send 4 up to 7A 5A: send 8 down to 4A, send 4 up to 6A 4A: send 8 down to 3A, send 8 up to 5A 3A: send 16 down to 2A, send 8 up to 4A 2A: send 16 up to 3A _____________

Last one for the day, I look at this classification and I don't see any guaranteed state champions. Heck, I am not even sure I know the 4 teams that make it out of some of these districts to make the playoffs. If you are a coach or player of one of these 64 teams, doesn't that give you a little extra motivation. You have realistic shot of competing for a state championship in comparison to when you are in other classifications that always seem to have 5-6 teams who will be penciled into the regional finals automatically. Class 4A District 1 Baldwin Booker T. Washington (Pensacola) Bradford (Starke) Milton North Florida Christian (Tallahassee) Pace Rickards (Tallahassee) Suwannee (Live Oak) District 2 Bishop Kenny (Jacksonville) ED White (Jacksonville) Evans (Orlando) First Coast (Jacksonville) Hagerty (Oviedo) Nease (Ponte Vedra) Ribault (Jacksonville) University (Orange City) District 3 Auburndale Durant (Plant City) Lakeland Christian (Lakeland) Nature Coast Tech (Brooksville) The Villages Charter (The Villages) Victory Christian Academy (Lakeland) Winter Haven Zephyrhills District 4 Chamberlain (Tampa) Clearwater East Bay (Gibsonton) East Lake (Tarpon Springs) Mitchell (New Port Richey) Sarasota Wharton (Tampa) Wiregrass Ranch (Wesley Chapel) District 5 Dwyer (Palm Beach Gardens) Harmony Jensen Beach John Carroll Catholic (Fort Pierce) Lake Nona (Orlando) Martin County (Stuart) Palm Bay (Melbourne) Palm Beach Gardens District 6 Barron Collier (Naples) First Baptist Academy (Naples) Glades Central (Belle Glade) Gulf Coast (Naples) King's Academy (West Palm Beach) North Fort Myers Palm Beach Lakes (West Palm Beach) Wellington District 7 American Heritage (Delray Beach) Blanche Ely (Pompano Beach) Boca Raton Calvary Christian Academy (Fort Lauderdale) Coconut Creek Fort Lauderdale Monarch (Coconut Creek) Stoneman Douglas (Parkland) District 8 Belen Jesuit (Miami) Doral Academy (Doral) Jackson (Miami) McArthur (Hollywood) Monsignor Pace (Miami) North Miami North Miami Beach Stranahan (Fort Lauderdale)

You are probably right, but unless somebody keeps throwing the idea out there for coaches/ADs/fans/FHSAA to at least discuss and think about, then we are stuck with the same system.