Floridaatlantic1

Only issue Only issue with starting playoffs so soon is who would care to go to a game after team is eliminated from the playoffs. An idea that could work is to double the current playoff teams and dump the idiot bye week we have in Florida. That would pretty much include everyone and the top 1 or 2 seeds get a bye if not enough teams in region.

Just use the old playoff rankings system Florida used when they did 1/3 win %, 1/3 opponents win %, and opponents opponents win % and dump the secret sauce recipe Maxprepos rankings and even more secret FHSAA version of the Maxpreps secret sauce rankings. That idiot ranking system screwed Florida teams who were undefeated over St. Joe beaten team for natty the one year.

What a surprise a cheater from one of the worst examples of illegally recruiting scandal that resulted in Nothing happening ends up at another in house scandal. He better watch out, that wrist slap he got at Winter Park where nobody had any punishment whatsoever really stopped him huh.

The plan would get crushed by smaller enrollments in central Florida and still does not address the recruiting issue. The reason a open division with like 16 teams or a promotion and demotion makes the most sense.

The FHSAA has like staff to due investigations and even if its obvious, they slap them on wrist.

The issue is when the third issue become economic reasons as the new school provides benefits like free rent and other cash. Winter Park did this and stole like 15 players around the area in one year and got busted and NOTHING happened to anyone. Kids missed a few meaningless regular season games and all played on playoffs.

Nole wants high schools to put together NIL packages and let the highest bidder win and the sad part is the FHSAA wont do anything even if they caught the team red handed recruiting with illegal benefits. Ridiculous

about 1 per cent of players get a full d-1 scholarship.

So cheating is ok as long as you reach your goal. End justifies the means. Quite Machiavellian of you. It this belief that is destroying our country today. As long as you get yours, screw everyone else mentality.

It seems like a lot of turnover at many positions in that school. New coach needs to rent some apartments for players and give some 100 dollar handshakes to make it in today Florida high school football. Oh wait, no one recruits illegally here in Florida... my bad

A insider called out the school and coach and lost his job for it but that is not enough evidence that some shady crap was going on. wow, I bet criminals wish you were on the jury because no one would ever be convicted.

So let me get this straight. Since you need to cheat to win, All coaches today need to start cheating and illegally recruiting because they know its what needs to happen to compete in todays game. Thats messed up faulty logic. How about punish the rulebreakers in the first place.

Here are the responses you get when making common sense statements like bump people up and down. You are punishing winners. What if the team just has one good class. No one recruits in the entire state and the FHSAA will crackdown if it actually happened, The coach has to be better. Crappy teams will win lower divisions The simple truth is that only 3% of current teams have any shot of winning a state title and only 1% have any shot of a d-1 scholarship so the rest are playing for the learning experience. Why not make it better for the masses and not make them get pummeled by a recrutied team that cheats.

No, all the recruiting cheaters say that no school in the entire state ever illegally recruits. Its just a coincidence that a school gets like 15 transfers in one year. Then that team pummels teams in same division that dont cheat and everyone cries when we say bump them up.

All the recruiting deniers here should read this article. Of course if they win a million games, TFA with all their new found transfers should never be bumped up to a higher division because that would be punishing winners.

And some of the schools use other illegal ways to attract players like rent or cash.

I am sooooooo surprised anyone would say teams offer player anything and actually recruit players. The people who support these teams who cheat end up crying when you say they should be moved up to a open division or to 8A, they freak out and say dont punish winners when they really are cheaters.

All the teams that recruit ILLEGALLY which is against FHSAA rules. All the coaches have to take a special FHSAA video about what not allowed.

The competition will be fierce in 1A for them. What a freaking joke it is that there is not promotion of cheating teams.

Your argument is valid in northern states with strong unions and it would be an issue there. Its just not relevant in Florida. One school community schools that have been around forever can support a football team and coach much better like Valdosta and Lee County in GA than the 20 plus schools in Orange county where they add a school once every 2 -5 years. The main reason Florida coaches are running from the state is that veteran teachers get paid squat and teaching makes up most of the pay for a head coach. Throw in football states like GA and Alabama where the head coach may not even teach and get paid more and its easy to see why the moving vans are heading north.

You have a point here on how much more community support helps pay coaches well in other nearby states. There was a reason APK legend Darlington ended up in Alabama. These schools have been around for a long time and everyone went to the school and have ties to it. Most of Florida schools are new and pop up due to north migration to the south and the new families have no ties to the school or community. The whole blaming teacher unions for lack of pay is a clown argument made by others on this board. The union have zero influence or power in Florida pay, curriculum, or policy. It is run 100% by Governor and state legislature. Even when they gave a teacher raise, 85% went to new to new teachers. The state will continue to bleed any experienced teachers as long as they treat them like crap financially. They will come here, get experience and leave.

You missed the point of my union post. Teacher unions in strong union states have power. Florida unions have zero. They cant strike and the school board can implement a contract without the unions approval. Florida unions are not preventing any raise in Florida. The state has attacked a straw man here.

Teacher unions are just like any large organization. They have positives and negatives. The negatives is obvious, they protect horrible workers and resist any kind of real change. However, strong union teacher union states get paid much more than Florida and usually have less students per teacher. Any talk of Florida teacher unions doing anything is a joke. They have zero power. Roughly 60% of teachers are even in the unions in Florida and the number is dropping because they really cant protect workers when everyone is on a yearly contract. The only teachers who have a continuing contract are teachers who have been teaching in same district since 2008 and were already on continuing contract when 2010 law passed. The only thing teacher unions do now is negotiate contract and the school boards can refuse to really pass a contract and implement their own contract after the impasse and mediation fails. Throw in the new state laws decertifying teachers unions when they fall below 50% membership and the removal of taking dues out of checks and the days of any teacher unions are numbered. Of course the new state union laws don't apply to police and firemen because they are political friends of the hacks in Tally and no wonder teachers cant run away from state fast enough once they have experience.

Florida teacher shortage is worse than other states due to low pay and super high rent and housing. The state government BS on education videos and content does not help but first two are main reasons coaches leave to go to Georgia and other states.

some charter schools do use student poll response to rate teachers. Counts like 5% of overall rating. The current VAM score which equal up to 1/2 of teachers evaluation is a joke. Most teachers get their score based on how student do on ELA and math scores even though the teachers dont teach either subject or grade level.