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  1. Low grade organization run by mediocre personnel.
  2. Columbia fan, why are you such a defender of this garbage system? I thought you were smarter than this. I know you're a young kid and all, but Common Sense dictates that this is a terrible system. It rewards teams based on past accomplishments in hypotheticals. Not on field accomplishments. That's garbage.
  3. Columbia fan, take a step back take a deep breath. This is a very fixable situation. Just like gator man said, all we have to do is go back to larger districts. If you whine about the travel then you don't have to participate in the FHSAA playoffs, it's that easy. And there are enough teams in every geographic region to fill out districts very easily. We just need to be slightly more flexible with the classes. And for the folks that like points, what I suggested above works. You award points based on strength of schedule for that year. Based on wins and losses. Not past accomplishments. That's the fairest and most equable way to solve this stupid mess that the FHSAA has single-handedly caused.
  4. This is a very low priority issue, therefore it's left to people who otherwise probably shouldn't be making important decisions. But it's time to get people's attention and make this run correctly. It can be a very good thing. It can make money, it can have high visibility, and most importantly it can be fair to the athletes and coaches. That's really the goal. Not what some Yahoo on a message board has to say about it, like all of us. We've got to get people's attention in some way shape or form.
  5. Much better because it was decided on wins and losses. No bonus points for scheduling a team that may have been OK in 2016 and snuck into the playoffs back then but is now hot garbage (Brandon and dozens of other examples). The only way to fix this mess is to get out of the business of small districts. Go to large districts. Even with an 8 team district, you are left with 3 non-district games and K.O. classic. That's enough. You can award the top two in the district with the playoffs and you aren't going to have many teams with bad records making it in. On top of that, bonus points to seed the playoff qualifiers by Section, not region. 1 point per win, no points for losses, a schedule bonus of 1-4 based on the overall record of the teams you played that year. That is the only fair way. Forget the playoff nonsense because a team that qualified a year or two before may have lost everyone to graduation or transfer and you are still getting points for a team that could wind up 3-7 or 2-8. The only flaw to that is fofreit losses when figuring out current schedule strength of the teams you played. I would perhaps only go with on field results or give 1/2 a win to a team that had to forfeit when figuring out the strength of a schedule. I'm not advocating giving the team that had to forfeit any points in their own compilation, only for the teams that had to play the team that had the forfeit loss. A little bit of thought can fix this mess, but I'm not counting on it from the bozos upstairs.
  6. They suck (the FHSAA). They put in this garbage system and then ruin a half dozen other sports by turning them over to Max Preps. Tax payers must demand that organization be dismantled and start over with something run by people who have an iota of common sense.
  7. According to the FHSAA and its defenders on this forum... Gadsden County 30.67 Home L Leon Home L Mosley Away L Rickards Home L Wakulla Away L Florida High Away L Marianna Away L Chiles Home L Eastside Away L Gulf Breeze Anyone ready to start firing away excuses????? LAZL, Darter, anyone?
  8. You like the fact that 0-9 Gadsden got into the playoffs? That would never happen in any reasonable system. Wake up people.
  9. Chamberlain for sure got screwed. They were one of the better teams in the Tampa area. They lost to 9-1 Armwood and 9-1 Bloomingdale. When they played B-Dale, Chamberlain's all county QB was hurt. This system is complete shit. Gadsden County got in at 0-9. That's all you need to know about the FHSAA and why it should be disbanded..
  10. It's weak logic. They are lost to everyone good they played that had a pulse except for Cocoa. And to say Hillsborough County doesn't have good teams is silly. A Hillsborough team has been in the finals almost every year for the last 15 years.
  11. I'm not picking on Viera. I was just using this as an example. And computer rankings are usually suspect. Eye test way to go.
  12. I hear you. St Thomas and Columbus kind of mess up the classifications for private schools if we were to separate them. However, some private schools with tiny populations can compete with the biggest schools in the state public or private simply based on the fact that they recruit 20 or 30 elite football players. So as much as I don't like putting teams with much, much larger schools, privates could theoretically compete with these teams by simply ramping up their recruiting.
  13. Old School Lion Without even getting into the public private debate, the point system is simply an arbitrary joke. Teams in Hillsborough aren't even allowed to make their own schedule. As for pub v private it's very interesting. The privates can't survive football wise on a high level w.o. the benefit of the public schools. They need public schools to play them and to participate in large class playoffs with them to legitimize them. Yet publics allow a handful of privates to make mockery of the system at their expense. I would separate them. Two private school classes. But I would also keep an open bowl optional so the best private and best public could square off against each other after the playoffs to determine the true overall state champ. This keeps the limited integrity of the system and allows each side to test the best from the other side at the end of the year. Realistically, STA would probably win this 6 out of 10 times but I'm ok with that.
  14. Osceola was down by 2 scores most of the game. Dominated may have been a touch strong but the outcome never seemed in doubt.
  15. Here are two homer examples, but they are two of MANY, MANY such examples based on the "playoff brackets" 1. Jefferson gets in over Robinson? Both 5-5. Robinson beats them straight up at their place. Robinson ahead of Jefferson in the district. Robinson had 9-1 Plant, Jesuit, and Bloomingdale on their schedule. Jefferson had 9-1 Armwood and Plant City. Neither team had a victory over their 9-1 foes. Jefferson beat Steinbrenner, Brandon, Middleton, Wharton, and Spoto. Robinson beat JEFFERSON, Leto, Spoto, Blake, and Brandon. Neither team was on a victory tour this year, but they both had similar mediocre results. I'm not even saying a 5-5 team really deserves to be in, but when there are two of them in the same district and the team that won head to head and finished higher in the district on almost identical schedules, the results are complete garbage. Is this what the FHSAA intended? Take away head to head results when otherwise everything else is the same, with a "razor thin" schedule advantage to Jefferson, and only based on the bonus points nonsense, not from actual results of the schedule this year? 2. How is 7-3 Viera, who lost to everyone they played that had a pulse (except Cocoa), the #2 seed over 9-1 Plant, the #3 seed? Plant played several playoff teams this year, including Armwood (their only L in a super close game), Sickles, Gaither, and Wiregrass. They also played a very tough Hillsborough team that missed the playoffs because it played the hardest schedules in the area. Wins have to count for something. Viera is a decent team, but 3 losses to non-national power type teams should not rate a higher seed. They lost to Osceola badly, who was dominated by Tampa Jesuit. They lost to a good Rockledge team (but that team is not Armwood) and they lost an close OOS game to Fort Dorchester, who is a decent team at 8-2 and who has a similar national rank to Viera in the very flawed and innacurate Max Prep rankings (424 and 430). This system is very, very flawed and something has to be done about it. Taxpayer dollars fund a lot of this sport and it cannot be decided on arbitrary garbage like biased point systems and F*IN MAX PREP RANKINGS (look how the FHSAA just destroyed a half dozen sports last week by going to such a screwed up system where it relies on Max Preps rankings). Been saying this for YEARS, but the FHSAA needs to be disbanded by statute and a new organization put in place. Clean house. Logic dictates that we should do as follows for football playoffs: Reduce to 5 classes by simply going from largest to smallest and counting backwards. If there is a big gap here and there, those teams can go up or down accordingly: Each class needs 16 districts with 8 teams each. Top 2 make playoffs. Reseed by section based on points after the first round (not regions; so reseed the entire North and South sections after the first round). Point system can be very simple. Points would just be wins, losses, and strength of schedule. 1 point each win. No points for losses. SOS bonus rated 1-4 points based on your opponents record at the conclusion of the season and on how many of these teams made playoffs the year before. That would satisfy everyone. Takes into account SOS but also awards you for being the first or second best team in a large district. Outside of that, you can have the very tiny rural schools and sunshine state conference/independent types in their own deal.
  16. Who will have best signing class amongst these schools? Pathetic. The recruitment, peddling, and wh0ring of HS kids between schools.
  17. And Plant has always had a decent amount of transfers from private schools such as Jesuit, Berkely, etc.
  18. Yes, he was supposed to be starter at Robinson this year. He was in IB. However, his younger brother ended up at T.C. (don't know why, maybe he didn't get into IB), and as such, he transferred there so they could attend the same school. After the TC football season ended, they both transferred to Plant. So 3 schools for the kid in one calendar year. However, he obviously didn't play at Plant, as he transferred after TC's season ended.
  19. Need to separate the privates into different classes. And IMG should be playing for state titles. Many of the S. Fla. private schools recruit as well as they do. Open division for private schools would be awesome. STA, AHP, IMG, TC, Chaminade, Oxturd, Champaign Tech at the strip mall, etc. etc. etc. Then you could have two small private school classes for real academic schools that don't take anyone that walks through their doors, like Jesuit, Belen, Bolles, and Berkely in Tampa (large class) and then have a class for the hundred or so small Christian schools that play football.
  20. No: Either 6 classes, with the only real separation being 1A small, rural public and 2A small privates, with the top 4 classes equally divided (about 100-120 teams in each class); or 3 Private School classes, I, II, and "Open" (that way real private schools that have sports as part of rounded curriculum, don't have to compete with fake schools like Champagnet, Oxturd, IMG, etc etc etc), and 4 Public school classes equally divided (again, probably about 120-140 teams each class).
  21. Peezy said you spotted Blindeyes at the game? Good to hear. Wish he would post once in a while (and you too; you used to post frequently in the flavarsity days).
  22. Somewhere, BLINDEYES is celebrating. Congrats to him!
  23. Plenty of uncalled holding on Da West's Oline also. Paint it however you like. MNW won a very close game where they made a few less mistakes. Congrats to the Bulls.
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