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  10. pick the bracket

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    7 hours ago, Yourbasement said:

    Crestview goes all the way and wins 6A. 

    Is Crestview better than last years team after losing the QB and all the WR’s? Serious question, because I haven’t seen them this year. I just remember what they had last year. 

  11. 6A Reg 1 & Referee Accountability

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    So how or when can schools and coaches hold referees and the fhsaa accountable like they do to schools and coaches? This point system is a joke with Pine Forest ranked where they are. Gulf Breeze should be around the 6th seed, with Tate and Nease as the 7th and 8th seeds. When can coaches and schools hold the state and referees accountable? 

  12. 6A Reg 1 & Referee Accountability

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    First off, let me preface this with a couple things.  I understand, if Tate, Gulf Breeze, or Nease had won their districts, there isn't an issue.  So you don't need to state that in a response.  Also, I get that these teams may not make a run in the playoffs or win any state title, but if that's the case, it would pertain to about 400 other high schools in the state, so why do we even play?  So relax on the rhetoric of 'they won't win state so it doesn't matter.'  Making the playoffs is an honor.  

    As of now, Pine Forest is ranked higher in the points system than these 3 teams, and they are 3-5, and 3rd in their district.  Tate is 2nd in the same district, Gulf Breeze is 2nd in their district, and Nease is 2nd in their's.  So how is Pine Forest ahead of these 3 teams?  Early in the season, the referees for the Pine Forest @ Gulf Breeze game completely blew the game at the end.  With a little over 2 minutes to go, Gulf Breeze had a 4th and 3 around midfield.  Pine Forest took a timeout.  Both teams huddled with their coaches around the numbers, and GB lined up for a punt.  Pine Forest lined up with 12 men on the field.  The back judge saw this, had his hand on the flag, but didn't throw it until the ball was snapped.  He waited to see if any Pine Forest player would run off the field.  The Pine Forest coach tried calling a timeout right before the snap but didn't do it in time when he realized there were 12 on the field.  The punt was a touchback.  The referees interrupted the penalty as the new PSK rule.  That rule is if a player runs on late.  They interrupted it wrong, and just penalized Pine Forest 10 yards after the touchback, instead of giving Gulf Breeze a 1st down.  So now Pine Forest has the ball.  On this drive, GB has Pine Forest with a 4th and 23.  Pine Forest throws up a 35 yard prayer, the Pine Forest kid dives, but doesn't make the catch.  GB kids are celebrating.  The side judge, still back near the line of scrimmage, declares it a catch.  The back judge made no call, so he went along with the side judges call.  Pine Forest is given a 1st down.  Pine Forest gets down to the endzone and wins on the last play of the game, 20 - 19.  The film clearly shows the play as a drop.  

    After a couple of weeks of back and forth with the referee association and the head coach of GB, the association sent 2 separate emails, explaining that they missed both calls.  The emails went to the FHSAA and head coach.  Because of this error, Pine Forest is awarded 48 or 53 points because GB is 6-2.  GB is given very low points because of the loss and Pine Forest's record.  This game has elevated Pine Forest over GB and Tate (Tate beat Pine Forest by 8 last week).  

    How can the state and referees justify this?  The referees almost wrote up 3 coaches from GB after the game because they gave the refs an ear full because of the blown calls.  If those coaches had been written up, they would've been suspended and made to pay a fine.  But why are the referees not held to the same standard?  The Miracle Strip Association hasn't suspended any referees for the missed calls, and they haven't been fined.  Wouldn't surprise me if they even get to work a state championship game this year.  The head of the Miracle Strip Association was one of the referees working that game.  Shouldn't the state, at the minimum, hold referees to a standard and there be penalties?  If this was a coach who did something wrong, like submit paperwork late, etc, they are fined, correct?  

    The points system was created to get the best teams from a region into the playoffs.  As of now, GB or Tate could be out after this week.  Tate is ahead of Pine Forest in their district and beat Pine Forest.  GB was hosed in the Pine Forest game.  Sadly, under the old system, both teams would be in as the district runner ups.  Instead, you have Tate at 5-3, Gulf Breeze at 6-2, and Nease at 5-4 all behind a 3-5 team, that should be 2-6.  

    I know many of us have horror stories of referees, but this is bad.  How do you explain to the kids of Tate, Gulf Breeze, or Nease that they aren't in the playoffs because referees screwed up a game?  One of these schools will miss the playoffs.  

  13. Whats the real solution to playoffs???

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    3 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:

    Almost sounds sarcastic (hope it is. Lol) 

    The way to fix it is to cut the classes by at least  3.  more realistically 4

    Have 4 classes with 8 team districts and 4 teams from each district make it in. 

    4 classes with 8 teams per district in 16 districts 

    16x8= 128 teams per class 

    128 x 4 classes = 512 teams 

    there are about 560-570 teams right now. So that leaves about 50-60 as independents and Indy conferences like the SSAC. 

    Great idea too! Not going to lie, need to ease off the chicken wings and 12 oz coldies because all these ideas sound better than the current system. I know there were those anomalies from the prior system, but very few and far between did a 3-7, 2-8, or 1-9 team make the playoffs unless they were in a tiny district. Eliminate 3 team districts or even possibly 4 team districts and then you eliminate the 1-9, 2-8, or 3-7 playoff teams. Just a thought. 

  14. Whats the real solution to playoffs???

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    39 minutes ago, Sharkbait said:

    Why not go to an 8 game regular season and add 2 rounds to the playoffs that would give you 4 times as many teams in the playoffs and hardly anyone could be left out.  Sure there would be lots of  blowouts  but we will have most everyone in.

    Dang, that’s crazy talk right there!!! But in all honesty, not a bad idea. Some folks may say making playoffs isn’t as distinguished if that was the new system, but wow, better go into the playoffs injury free and you might make a run! 

  17. Tallahassee football is hot garbage!!!

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    1 minute ago, ColumbiaHighFan2017class said:

    Honestly having basically all panhandle teams in 6a was smart

     

    3 of 4 districts in region 1 are panhandle so it means they could limit travel in early rounds

    I see your point. I was just talking about competition as far as those schools size. I know 6A to 7A as far as population isn’t a huge difference, but there is a reason they break up classifications. 

  18. Season rankings

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    I know the panhandle is ‘irrelevant’ to some, but a couple big games and scenarios coming up. In 6A, 2 district championship games coming up with Crestview @ Niceville and Navarre @ Gulf Breeze. Both ought to be great games and huge atmospheres with both stadiums packed. Heard a funny scenario. In 5A, West Florida could win out and be matched up with Trinity Christian or Bishop Kenny in the 1st round, or purposefully lose to a bad Pensacola team (but they are undefeated in the district so far) and by points rematch them in the 1st round as they would probably be the 5 seed and Pensacola would be the 4 seed. That would knock out possibly Trinity Christian, Bishop Kenny, or Wakulla. 

  20. Chocawatchee

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    Pine Forest won the state title in 2000 against St Thomas in triple overtime, and Pensacola won in 2009. Derrick Brooks went to Washington. Really and truly, Tate, Navarre, Crestview, and Niceville should all be 7A. They petitioned due to travel. I'm curious how they would do in the 7A region and north. 

  21. So Zoe boy tell us again how great booker t is

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    1 hour ago, Dan in Daytona said:

    I'll start with 11 new head coaches this century. Why do they leave ?  Any correlation in the vast improvement of Deltona ?  Orange City's football team came off the drawing board kicking a$$ with Deland athletes. Why ?  At another time I'll spew my often repeated  " good ole boy " theory. Too heavy for today.   

    Don't forget Howie D and Wade '6 points' Rollinson to get DeLand on the map in the 90's, and the gold helmets need to come back!  

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