DILLARDBOYZ954
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Just now, HornetFan said:
Are we comparing OOS national all-star teams like Mater Dei, St Frances, and say Bishop Gorman, against all-star teams here in Florida like IMG and STA, or are we talking about 2nd tier OOS all-star teams that travel to Florida and schedule our traditional high school teams that don't recruit? IMG and STA can compete with the best OOS schools. I don't think it's fair to compare our traditional schools to 2nd tier OOS travelling teams. Florida still has a tremendous amount of high school talent, comparable to California and Texas.
No...all im simply saying is the LEVEL OF PLAY is down.. the athelets & talent is still here YES! But florida as a WHOLE is NOT playing high level of football. I bleed this game & i have watched diff high school teams play from all over ..ranked & unranked and their level of play is just diffrent ..the offensive play calling is just diffrent.
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1 minute ago, Dania4life said:
Alot of College and Pro players i coached tell me that the competition in Florida during High school made them ready to excel the 1st Day they step on their College Campus. Even the coaches will tell you that Florida swagger is something different.
Probably then!! Were talking about NOW!
We have alot of terrible schools...some avg schools...a few above avg schools. And 2 elite schools in STA & IMG more so img because STA havent even been the best in there on class lately.
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Just now, Dania4life said:
.lowndes ..valdosta ..colquit ...grayson...tofee? You do realize that these schools are the only show in town. Basically the city shut down for the high school football game. Whereas in South Florida you have a variety of games that you can attend every week, including STA and Carol City this week then American Heritage and Cardinal Gibbons next week.
OT: You have the Carol City Chiefs 10U vs Lauderhill Lions 10U this Saturday guaranteed to be at least 3000 people for an optimist game.
Bro your missing it. Your focused on attendence. And lets b clear carol city vs sta this weeknd is not a marquee game of the week.
And again i never said that there was no more interesting games in the state what i said was the LEVEL of over all football play in florida is down. People can show up & pack the stands does NOT mean we are watching high level football play,discipline & excecution.
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6 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:
I don't like the argument of which state has the best teams, mostly because how teams are made is changing every 5 years. Teams in the DC, Maryland, Virginia area are not making their team the same way that a team in rural Alabama or Georgia is. Teams in North Jersey are not making their teams the same as a public school in inner city Dallas.
The better question is not who has the best teams, but which teams have the greatest depth in terms of teams based on state size. Florida teams suffer from multiple problems.
1) We have a transient population who have few roots in the communities that they are in. As a result they less buy in from the community as a whole.
2) We pay our coaches and teachers very little. Coaches who are worth anything move to states that will pay them. Assistant coaches join them, young men who dream of inheriting that role of head coach know that while Florida offers the jobs, they don't offer the pay to stay.
3) Our communities don't support the teams that do exist. This is true of every level of sports here in level from pro to college to amateur. Florida stinks when it comes to support. Even when the Miami Heat were good during the Wade/LeBron years, fans still didn't show up until the 2nd quarter was half over. Stadiums are a 1/3 full at times (blame bad scheduling), Marlins have the lowest attendance in baseball, the Rays second lowest (despite playing good baseball this season). Bucs were in the bottom 3 last year in attendance.
In other words, until we can keep quality head coaches and assistants and gain community support than it doesn't matter.Amen. Well said.
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2 minutes ago, Dania4life said:
I beg to Differ. The overall talent is better in Florida. I don't see such decline. Although the private schools that you mention so happen to win games that don't deter from Public Schools. Quick Question? I would like for you to put any public school across the country against our major public schools and see the outcome. This includes Lakeland, MNW, Central, BTW, etc...
I can name a few public schools ...lowndes ..valdosta ..colquit ...grayson...tofee && all of those are just Ga schools alone.
Corona centennial for another ex.
Florida may still have TALENT...But the LEVEL of play is DOWN only reason we cant see it is because were comparing it to the games we play vs each other here in the state.
But if were gonna be unbiased look around in other states the level of play from other schools are just higher even at the schools without the transfers they still play sound discipline high level football.
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I made this post on another thread but i decided that it could be a entire duscussion within its self.
Sad thing is these teams down here even with all the transfers will still go out of state & get blasted by mater dei & st frances & etc. Except for img. Like it or not florida is not the overall best state in florida anymore. The talent here vs other states are at best even and some cases favor the other state. Add that with the far superior coaching in other states & its not even close. Sad to say we are not playing a high level of football down here its avg at best compared to other states. Florida football is trending downward and has been for the last few years.
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On 9/24/2019 at 10:15 PM, nolebull813 said:
Not a joke. This is the real thread. Post your pics here. Here are the games
CCC vs Clearwater
Glades Central vs Cocoa
Madison County vs Lakewood
Tampa Catholic vs Berkeley
Centennial vs Vero Beach
Spruce Creek vs Deland
Oakleaf vs Sandalwood
Wekiva vs Edgewater
Braden River vs Palmetto
N Marion vs Vanguard
Cocoa
Edgewater
Palmetto
Oakleaf
North marion
Deland
Vero beach
Tampa catholic
clearwater central catholic
Lakewood
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Another rival game tomorrow the fans should be out in droves again.
Boyd anderson beat dillard
In 2009- 13-10
2010- 19-13
2011- 21-12
2012 28-7
2015 26-6
2016 29-7
After going 0-6 in the past 6 meetings dillard lone wins vs their rival since 08 hss come in
2017 - 20-9
2018- 36-6
So out of the past 8 meetings dillard is a womping 2-6 vs their neighborhood rival and will look to make it 3 consecutive wins vs their rival in a long time. These kids stay round each other have grown up with each other so i throw the record out in these types of games. I expect it to be close & chippy for about a half maybe the full 1st Qt. But once the dust settles in the game i look for Dillard To Handle bussiness & Get The Dub.
SCORE PREDICTION: DILLARD 40-12
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Just now, nolebull813 said:
The games picked were not necessarily the top ranked teams. It was more toss up games that make you do some research
U got that right cus i have to do search more then half these schools lol.
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Just now, nolebull813 said:
Both blowouts
i will add both games as long as you pick Carol City and Booker T. Lol
Im no fool lol lmao lol im in second place in the pickems im tryna get to 1st
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Just now, nolebull813 said:
I wouldn’t screw around and waste my time
No st thomas vs carol city
Booker t vs img
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2 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Not a joke. This is the real thread. Post your pics here. Here are the games
CCC vs Clearwater
Glades Central vs Cocoa
Madison County vs Lakewood
Tampa Catholic vs Berkeley
Centennial vs Vero Beach
Spruce Creek vs Deland
Oakleaf vs Sandalwood
Wekiva vs Edgewater
Braden River vs Palmetto
N Marion vs Vanguard
Cant be lol
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30 minutes ago, DarterBlue2 said:
The above looks about right. I would have Dillard up a spot above Palmetto. But overall, I think they got the top twenty about right.
Truuu but all dillard have to is keep winning & improving each week & we will be Good. Lets just get to 6-0 this week.
Something in all my 27 years of living i have never been able to say.
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On 9/23/2019 at 9:57 AM, nolebull813 said:
yeah if it wasnt for Ely, Dillard would of went 14-0 in 1989.
Another fun fact bro dillard hasnt lost a home regular season game since october of 2017.
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1.ST THOMAS (3-0)
2.MIAMI CENTRAL (4-1)
3. SOUTH DADE (4-0)
4. AMERICAN HERITAGE (3-1)
5.CHAMINADE (4-1)
6. MIAMI NORTHWESTERN (3-2)
7.PALMETTO (4-1)
8. DILLARD (5-0)
9.UNIVERSITY SCHOOL (4-1)
10. BOOKER T WASHINGTON (4-1)
11. CAROL CITY (2-3)
12. WESTERN (3-1)
13. DEERFIELD BEACH (3-2)
14. CARDINAL GIBBONS (4-1)
15.COLOMBUS (2-2)
16. PLANTATION (4-0)
17. GULLIVER PREP (5-0)
18. MCARTHUR (2-1)
19. DOUGLAS (4-0)
20. MONARCH (4-1)
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Sad thing is these teams down here even with all the transfers will still go out of state & get blasted by mater dei & st frances & etc. Except for img. Like it or not florida is not the overall best state in florida anymore. The talent here vs other states are at best even and some cases favor the other state. Add that with the far superior coaching in other states & its not even close. Sad to say we are not playing a high level of football down here its avg at best compared to other states. Florida football is trending downward and has been for the last few years.
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2 minutes ago, Perspective said:
So, they're in the same region. And, it would be possible for a 9-1 MC team to have a higher RPI than a 10-0 Dillard team, based on the record of MC's opponents and MC's opponent's opponents versus the record of Dillard's opponents and Dillard's opponent's opponents. MC could end up with the higher seed and, thus, home field advantage.
Hmmm interesting.
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Just now, Perspective said:
Dillard, if I'm not mistaken, Classes 1-4 do not have districts. They just have four regions and the top 8 teams in each region make the playoff (top teams and seeding determined by RPI). For classes 5-8, there are four regions. Within each region, there are four districts. The four district champs are in the playoffs, seeded 1-4 per RPI. The four best teams in each region (per RPI) also make the playoffs, and get seeded 5-8.
If Dillard and Miami Central are in different districts, a team with one loss could indeed end up seeded higher than a team with no losses.
Yea dillard is in 6a-15 and miami central is in district 6A-16
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So for ex dillard can go 10-0 mia central go 9-1 and mc could still b a higher seed than us?
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4 minutes ago, gatorman-uf said:
The last two years, you would use the playoff point system. Now we use the RPI system, basically the top 4 or 6 teams (I forget) per region make the playoffs. It is why schools like Trinity Christian (Jax) or Chaminade-Madonna or Pahokee or Madison County don't have to play district games. None of the teams in their "districts" wanted to play them anyway, so the FHSAA allows smaller schools to make their own schedules completely.
It is also the reason earlier this year, I warned that Pahokee could get Booker T Washingtoned in terms of scheduling so tough that they end up with not enough wins to make it.
It is also how a school like St. Joseph's makes the playoffs last year going 9-0 and facing nothing but extremely small schools and a schedule that makes cupcakes schedules look hard. Don't get me wrong, St. Joseph's would be in under almost any system, but reflecting on their schedule makes me think, I would rather choose a cupcake schedule than an impossible schedule.So even with 5a-6a there is no longer a point system and the top 4 seeds or 6 teams are determined 1-6 by record aka wins ??
And the rest of the teams are put in byyyy??
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1 minute ago, gatorman-uf said:
Just the RPI, maxpreps is showing their record against teams in their region, but those games don't count any more than any other game.
So what qualifies them to make the playoffs if their is no district games.
Lets use pahokee for ex they could possibly end up 1-8 or 2-7 but none of those games were against 1a competition.
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43 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Here’s a bizarre story. Randazzo from Coconut Creek has a maxpreps profile for football and says they are currently 4-1. The coach listed is Tyler Johnson.
Heres the crazy part. I called the Randazzo school and they said they don’t have football. They are a special needs school for K-12, and they never even heard of someone named Tyler Johnson employed at that school!!
Lmao!!!
Lol hahaha the irony lol
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4 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
I apologize for not getting back to you. I did not know the answer.
Its cool bro it just sucks not being able to find those records from the 90s and 80s
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
yeah if it wasnt for Ely, Dillard would of went 14-0 in 1989.
Summa ......lol hahaha its coo doe we got the title ...
Florida football trending downwards/ other states catching up or surpassing.
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Thats why it pays to read fully ...i never said the talent was no longer here nor that we no longer produce talent.
The level of play has zero to do with wether talent is here or if were still sending kids to the nfl.