nolebull813
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2 hours ago, Perspective said:
Nolebull, is that your way of saying that a kid from out-of-state that shows up and plays for IMG for a year or two doesn't really qualify as a "Florida kid?" If so, I agree 100%.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. IMG isn’t even a Florida high school. They are a world sports academy located in Florida.
If a Florida native who played for IMG was drafted, Florida would get credit because he is a native.
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Four guys from Florida draft in the first round. Pretty good.
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3 hours ago, THAT S--T WAS FUNNY said:
If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is around, does it make a sound?
If you didn’t see something happen then how do you know it really happened? People lie. If you weren’t witness to it then you don’t know for sure.
I told my son when he is in history class and they ask a question like “What country did Napeoleon Bonaparte invade in 1812?”
His answer should be “I don’t know, I wasn’t there!”
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If a company opened up and they hired someone from elite private institutions from South Florida, and someone from Franklin County which is one of the worst schools in the country cried that it was unfair, should the company create a department specifically for people who came from failing public schools from the middle of nowhere?
yes or no and why?
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15 hours ago, Dr. D said:
Okay, how about that STA vs. Ida Baker matchup in your first round? Does your analogy extend to South Florida slappies? My opinion is simply that no one (except CoachGraham, apparently) would be interested in the 1 vs. 512, 2 vs. 511, and 200 other mismatches such a format would produce, regardless of geography. But I could be wrong. And now I'm thinking I should have skipped college.
It would weed out the bad teams that are not championship material. The cream would rise to the top. So once the the teams ranked in the 400’s and 500’s were gone after the first round like they should be, it would start to get to the point only good teams are left. The last couple rounds would be the best of the best. One true state champion.
Watering down the classes and letting teams who normally would have no business winning a title advance further than they should is like letting a toddler hold a fake steering wheel and pretend he’s driving. It’s not real. And it doesn’t prepare the kids for real life. It makes them think they are better than they really are.
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Complaining about North Florida slappies losing to South Florida powers is like someone graduating high school complaining that companies are only hiring college graduates and not them. And then a company saying ok to make it fair, we will open division and only hire high school graduates.
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4 hours ago, Floridaatlantic1 said:
Only issue
Only issue with starting playoffs so soon is who would care to go to a game after team is eliminated from the playoffs. An idea that could work is to double the current playoff teams and dump the idiot bye week we have in Florida. That would pretty much include everyone and the top 1 or 2 seeds get a bye if not enough teams in region.
I like it if there is only 4 classes
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We should do the other thing I suggested. Everyone makes the playoffs.
5 week regular season/ 9 week playoff
after the 5 weeks. Seed the teams by wins. All the 5 wins teams start out playing the 0 win teams. If there are more 5 win teams than 0 win teams, then you take the 1 win teams with the worst opponent win % until you fill the slots.
Playoffs
512 teams - round 1
256 teams left - round 2
128 teams left - round 3
64 teams left - round 4
32 teams left - round 5
16 teams left - round 6
8 teams left - quarterfinals
4 teams left - semifinals
2 teams left - championship
1 true state champion
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Atlantic Coast
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Mount Dora
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St Francis
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Hudson
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Oak Hall
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3 hours ago, Lake Sumter Observer said:
Glad to see they cancelled that Gonzaga game. It would have been an embarrassment
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1 hour ago, Perspective said:
Nolebull, so here's the scenario: A coach or a booster from a high school in Florida approaches a kid who plays football at a different school and offers that kid and/or that kid's parents a boatload of benefits (money, an apartment, or anything else that would, under existing rules, qualify as an "impermissible benefit"). Let's break this down: it's OK for the kid and his family to accept the impermissible benefits as long as they believe that they're making the 'best decision' for their family. And it's OK for the coach or booster to provide such impermissible benefits because that somehow improves the kid's chances of succeeding as an athlete and/or student. Wait, it's not just "OK" for the coach or booster to do that, they should be encouraged to do that because that's the only way they'll be able to keep up with all the other coaches and boosters that are breaking the rules by providing impermissible benefits to other kids. Have I got that right? Do you want to do away with all the rules involving recruiting, benefits, transferring, etc. or just keep the rules in place, but not enforce them?
#Lordoftheflies
Here’s a scenario that will cook your noodle. There’s an 11th grader at a D rated public school. Lives in a bad neighborhood with a single mom and a bunch of siblings. Dirt poor, and struggle just to eat and keep the lights on. He can’t get a part time job to help out because he has to watch his little siblings while his mom works.
The school he plays for has poor attendance at the football games, and is always bad. He is a super star for them and tons of new bandwagon fans start to attend the games because they are good and he is the reason. School is making tons of new money.
Season is over. Back to reality for him. School year is over. Summer hits. Some “runner” on behalf of the rich local private school “offers” his mom, him, and all his siblings a way out of poverty. New place to live, food on the table, and an opportunity to get a quality education and maximize exposure for all the top colleges to see. A once in a lifetime opportunity to get his family out of poverty.
What say you? Does he say no and continue to barely survive, or does he take the deal?
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1 hour ago, Perspective said:
Nolebull, so here's the scenario: A coach or a booster from a high school in Florida approaches a kid who plays football at a different school and offers that kid and/or that kid's parents a boatload of benefits (money, an apartment, or anything else that would, under existing rules, qualify as an "impermissible benefit"). Let's break this down: it's OK for the kid and his family to accept the impermissible benefits as long as they believe that they're making the 'best decision' for their family. And it's OK for the coach or booster to provide such impermissible benefits because that somehow improves the kid's chances of succeeding as an athlete and/or student. Wait, it's not just "OK" for the coach or booster to do that, they should be encouraged to do that because that's the only way they'll be able to keep up with all the other coaches and boosters that are breaking the rules by providing impermissible benefits to other kids. Have I got that right? Do you want to do away with all the rules involving recruiting, benefits, transferring, etc. or just keep the rules in place, but not enforce them?
#Lordoftheflies
To make it short and sweet. I am against breaking the rules. If there is a rule that seems outdated or unfair then it should be amended/changed/repealed with majority rule
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2 minutes ago, Ray Icaza said:
Thanks for admitting that you do not know why they transferred or the several others that mysteriously transferred to that school (not a known powerhouse). Thanks for also agreeing you specifically have to ask all the kids that left for seemingly inexplicable reasons why. That happened as a matter of fact which raises suspicion thus the launch of an investigation by the FHSAA who hopefully will ask YOUR question as well as many more to get to the bottom of it. Any fair-minded person should readily support this investigation. If you don't support and admitted you don't know the facts, you are basically guilty of what some are accusing you of. I would hope you would like to know the TRUTH as opposed to simply attacking the messengers.
I am a huge proponent of innocent until proven guilty, and due process with credible evidence. I support a credible investigation, and not some witch hunt by disgruntled folks both near and far from the program. Let’s hope they can get to the bottom of this quickly
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13 minutes ago, Floridaatlantic1 said:
Nole wants high schools to put together NIL packages and let the highest bidder win and the sad part is the FHSAA wont do anything even if they caught the team red handed recruiting with illegal benefits. Ridiculous
I dont want any of that. I want the kids and their families to make the best decision for them both academically and athletically. Each case is completely different than the next.
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1 hour ago, Ray Icaza said:
Flawed reasons you sight for leaving when you look at the two players we lost. They both played at OHS their freshmen and sophomore seasons with significant varsity playing time as sophomores and were projected starters for next season. Our school is not "FAILING THEM" academically, athletically or any other measure as we sent about a dozen seniors from the 2023 class to further their education thru football. This list included 5 going to D1 schools like Florida, FSU, UCF, Oklahoma and Rutgers. I ask you specifically like you ask others to tell me exactly why they left since I just debunked your stated reasons. The answer is you have no idea but turning a blind eye to the "Possibility" of rule breaking is wrong. By the way, losing those 2 will not ruin our upcoming season as we have others capable of stepping up in their place and so my concern isn't that.
You would have to ask those two kids specifically why they left. And sometimes it necessarily isn’t because things are wrong at their first school. It could be a parental choice where the kid doesn’t get a say. We have no idea unless you have specifically heard the kid and/or his parents say the exact reason why they transfered
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Imagine if they decided to play with a bunch of kids who would never play a down of athletic competition a day in their life after high school and the school starts becoming a door mat for everyone to beat up on.
And then they get a reputation of being an athletic laughingstock. And enrollment goes down, and they have financial troubles.
But hey, at least they appeased some message board goobers
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I think it’s embarrassing to try and get credit for a kid who lived in Florida for one year of his entire life. That’s cringey and embarrassing