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How the hell does every freaking thread become about some podunk community in North Florida... for the love of god, form your own thread and talk about them there. Otherwise, get the hell off this thread. Or at least contribute to a meaningful conversation. Repeating ad nauseam that your school is the best with zero proof. If you want to be the best, tell your principal/ad/coach/school board to stop ducking the competition that they should actually be in and go and play in it. Otherwise, except your participation trophy and shut up.

2A Possible 406 Father Lopez (Daytona Beach) 356 407 Lakeland Christian 351 408 Community School (Naples) 347 409 John Carroll (Fort Pierce) 343 410 Marathon 337 411 Trinity Christian (Jacksonville) 332 412 Palm Glades Prep (Miami) 306 413 Foundation Academy (Winter Garden) 289 414 Admiral Farragut (St. Petersburg) 288 415 Westminster Academy (Fort Lauderdale) 275 416 Seffner Christian 273 417 Northside Christian (St. Petersburg) 272 418 Moore Haven 263 419 St. Joseph (St. Augustine) 259 420 St. John Neumann (Naples) 255 421 Indian Rocks Christian (Largo) 252 422 Oak Hall (Gainesville) 238 423 St. Francis (Gainesville) 231 424 Orangewood Christian (Maitland) 230 425 University Christian (Jacksonville) 213 426 Evangelical Christian (Fort Myers) 204 427 First Baptist (Naples) 195 428 Southwest Florida Christian (Fort Myers) 193 429 Cambridge (Tampa) 189 430 FAMU (Tallahassee) 184 431 Rocky Bayou Christian (Niceville) 182 432 Keswick Christian (St. Petersburg) 179 433 Victory Christian (Lakeland) 170 434 Trinity Christian (Deltona) 160 435 North Florida Educational (Jacksonville) 152 436 Champagnat (Hialeah) 146 437 Miami Christian 138 438 North Florida Christian (Tallahassee) 137 439 Munroe (Quincy) 122 440 St. John Lutheran (Ocala) 116 441 Eagles View (Jacksonville) 110 442 Aucilla Christian (Monticello) 106 443 Glades Day (Belle Glade) 99 444 Zephyrhills Christian 99 445 Merritt Island Christian 95 446 Halifax (Daytona Beach) 70

3A Possible 364 Baldwin 741 365 Bradford (Starke) 740 366 Marianna 736 367 Keystone Heights 731 368 Walton (DeFuniak Springs) 725 369 Interlachen 717 370 Bishop Verot (Fort Myers) 714 371 Tampa Catholic 702 372 Miami Edison 700 373 Somerset Charter (Silver Palms) 686 374 Oasis (Cape Coral) 683 375 Florida High (Tallahassee) 678 376 Calvary Christian (Clearwater) 677 377 Avon Park 659 378 Pensacola Catholic 658 379 Lake Placid 652 380 Frostproof 642 381 St. Andrews (Boca Raton) 642 382 Berkeley Prep (Tampa) 637 383 Episcopal (Jacksonville) 590 384 Taylor (Pierson) 576 385 Westminster Christian (Miami) 576 386 Clearwater Central Catholic 543 387 Kings Academy (West Palm Beach) 539 388 Pinecrest Prep (Miami) 531 389 Cornerstone Charter (Belle Isle) 528 390 Trinity Preparatory (Winter Park) 522 391 Everglades Prep (Homestead) 509 392 P. K. Yonge (Gainesville) 508 393 Cardinal Mooney (Sarasota) 485 394 Chaminade-Madonna (Hollywood) 480 395 Palmer Trinity (Palmetto Bay) 469 396 Cardinal Newman (West Palm Beach) 465 397 Trinity Catholic (Ocala) 462 398 Melbourne Central Catholic 433 399 St. John Paul II (Boca Raton) 426 400 Benjamin (Palm Beach Gardens) 410 401 St. Petersburg Catholic 387 402 First Academy (Orlando) 383 403 Maclay (Tallahassee) 370 404 Carrollwood (Tampa) 363 405 Holy Trinity (Melbourne) 360

4A (Possible) 324 Hernando (Brooksville) 1103 325 Cardinal Gibbons (Fort Lauderdale) 1102 326 Astronaut (Titusville) 1083 327 Tenoroc (Lakeland) 1075 328 Palatka 1074 329 Santa Fe (Alachua) 1052 330 Bay (Panama City) 1047 331 South Sumter (Bushnell) 1044 332 Gadsden County (Havana) 1032 333 Mount Dora 1031 334 American Heritage (Delray Beach) 1026 335 Lemon Bay (Englewood) 1018 336 South Walton (Santa Rosa Beach) 1010 337 Cocoa 1008 338 The Villages 1004 339 Lakewood (St. Petersburg) 986 340 Miami Booker T Washington 977 341 North Marion (Citra) 975 342 Glades Central (Belle Glade) 974 343 Somerset Canyons (Boynton Beach) 966 344 Clewiston 960 345 Andrew Jackson (Jacksonville) 958 346 Fernandina Beach 949 347 West Nassau (Callahan) 947 348 Gulliver Prep (Pinecrest) 944 349 Space Coast (Cocoa) 941 350 Miami Carol City 940 351 Coral Springs Charter 926 352 Discovery (Lake Alfred) 917 353 North Broward Prep (Coconut Creek) 892 354 North Bay Haven (Panama City) 883 355 Immaculata-LaSalle (Miami) 872 356 Pine Crest 857 357 Wolfson (Jacksonville) 853 358 Monsignor Pace (Miami) 833 359 Rutherford (Panama City) 795 360 Bolles (Jacksonville) 787 361 Calvary Christian (Fort Lauderdale) 782 362 Lake Highland Prep (Orlando) 756 363 NSU University School (Fort Lauderdale) 746

5A Possible As I stated these are not the perfect numbers, but give a rough idea of where your school stands before the FHSAA re-adjusts due to new schools openings or new schools who started playing football in 2020-21. 243 Lake Wales 1578 244 Bayside (Palm Bay) 1571 245 Matanzas (Palm Coast) 1569 246 Clearwater 1544 247 Cypress Creek (Wesley Chapel) 1543 248 Boynton Beach 1539 249 Stanton (Jacksonville) 1539 250 Estero 1537 251 Terry Parker (Jacksonville) 1533 252 Ed White (Jacksonville) 1523 253 Rockledge 1518 254 American Heritage (Plantation) 1511 255 Middleton (Tampa) 1511 256 Stranahan (Fort Lauderdale) 1499 257 Mariner (Cape Coral) 1490 258 Cypress Lake (Fort Myers) 1488 259 Zephyrhills 1487 260 Citrus (Inverness) 1486 261 Durant (Plant City) 1479 262 Merritt Island 1476 263 Wesley Chapel 1472 264 Arnold (Panama City Beach) 1471 265 Menendez (St. Augustine) 1471 266 Clay (Green Cove Springs) 1464 267 Raines (Jacksonville) 1463 268 Buchholz (Gainesville) 1459 269 Gulf (New Port Richey) 1458 270 Bayshore (Bradenton) 1449 271 Robinson (Tampa) 1449 272 Wakulla (Crawfordville) 1442 273 Island Coast (Cape Coral) 1435 274 Ribault (Jacksonville) 1432 275 Jensen Beach 1430 276 Miami Central 1430 277 Deltona 1427 278 Godby (Tallahassee) 1425 279 Leesburg 1424 280 Lake Weir (Ocala) 1421 281 Seabreeze (Daytona Beach) 1414 282 Bishop Moore (Orlando) 1411 283 Lake Region (Eagle Lake) 1397 284 Pensacola 1397 285 Somerset Academy (Pembroke Pines) 1397 286 Bonita Springs 1390 287 Baker County (Glen St. Mary) 1381 288 Miami Jackson 1380 289 Paxon (Jacksonville) 1376 290 Chamberlain (Tampa) 1371 291 Hardee (Wauchula) 1367 292 Pine Ridge (Deltona) 1357 293 Port Charlotte 1353 294 Brandon 1339 295 Palm Bay (Melbourne) 1316 296 LaBelle 1308 297 Booker (Sarasota) 1306 298 Miami Killian 1301 299 North Miami Beach 1299 300 Yulee 1292 301 Dunedin 1285 302 Nature Coast (Brooksville) 1280 303 Bishop Kenny (Jacksonville) 1263 304 West Florida (Pensacola) 1263 305 Tavares 1262 306 Key West 1258 307 Eastside (Gainesville) 1249 308 Miami Springs 1236 309 Mulberry 1230 310 Hudson 1227 311 Tarpon Springs 1227 312 Sebring 1214 313 Eustis 1205 314 Atlantic (Port Orange) 1192 315 Anclote (Holiday) 1191 316 Crystal River 1190 317 Weeki Wachee 1180 318 Hallandale 1173 319 DeSoto County (Arcadia) 1165 320 Dunnellon 1142 321 Gibbs (St. Petersburg) 1141 322 Suwannee (Live Oak) 1126 323 Central (Brooksville) 1113

6A Possible (not suggesting that these will be the cutoffs), just took the 446 schools that remained after I removed the 1A schools and divided by 11 (1 for 2A-4A and 2 for 5A-8A) and got 40.5 so every class I tried to make 40-41 teams or 80-81 teams. 162 Ponte Vedra 1915 163 Hialeah 1914 164 Fort Walton Beach 1913 165 Washington (Pensacola) 1908 166 Sunlake (Land O' Lakes) 1906 167 Boyd Anderson (Lauderdale Lakes) 1904 168 South Fork (Stuart) 1901 169 Heritage (Palm Bay) 1899 170 Pinellas Park (Largo) 1897 171 Englewood (Jacksonville) 1877 172 Columbia (Lake City) 1874 173 Hillsborough (Tampa) 1869 174 Fort Myers 1867 175 St. Augustine 1855 176 Lincoln (Tallahassee) 1852 177 South Lake (Groveland) 1846 178 Liberty (Kissimmee) 1837 179 Braden River (Bradenton) 1834 180 Milton 1831 181 Escambia (Pensacola) 1830 182 Gainesville 1822 183 New Smyrna Beach 1806 184 North Fort Myers 1805 185 Gulf Breeze 1803 186 Hollins (St. Petersburg) 1802 187 American (Hialeah) 1798 188 Orange Park 1792 189 Mosley (Lynn Haven) 1791 190 Coconut Creek 1783 191 Naples 1781 192 Okeechobee 1780 193 St. Petersburg 1774 194 Dunbar (Fort Myers) 1769 195 South Fort Myers 1766 196 Lake Minneola 1755 197 Golden Gate (Naples) 1743 198 Archbishop McCarthy (Southwest Ranches) 1739 199 Lecanto 1739 200 Freedom (Tampa) 1737 201 Ida Baker (Cape Coral) 1725 202 Barron Collier (Naples) 1724 203 Middleburg 1723 204 Pasco (Dade City) 1721 205 Springstead (Spring Hill) 1713 206 Pine Forest (Pensacola) 1711 207 Countryside (Clearwater) 1705 208 Blake (Tampa) 1701 209 Gateway (Kissimmee) 1700 210 Belen Jesuit (Miami)* 1698 211 River Ridge (New Port Richey) 1694 212 Osceola (Seminole) 1693 213 Seminole (Seminole) 1691 214 Port St. Lucie 1685 215 Ridgeview (Orange Park) 1679 216 Northeast (St. Petersburg) 1677 217 East Lee County (Lehigh Acres) 1674 218 Robert E. Lee (Jacksonville) 1667 219 Jesuit (Tampa)* 1660 220 King (Tampa) 1660 221 Southeast (Bradenton) 1658 222 Lely (Naples) 1651 223 Miami Norland 1650 224 Rickards (Tallahassee) 1648 225 Auburndale 1645 226 Belleview 1640 227 Jones (Orlando) 1636 228 Cape Coral 1625 229 Fivay (Hudson) 1625 230 Choctawhatchee (Fort Walton Beach) 1620 231 Boca Ciega (Gulfport) 1613 232 Miami Northwestern 1613 233 Spoto (Riverview) 1608 234 Charlotte (Punta Gorda) 1600 235 Eau Gallie (Melbourne) 1595 236 Suncoast (Riviera Beach) 1595 237 Vanguard (Ocala) 1593 238 Jefferson (Tampa) 1592 239 Northeast (Oakland Park) 1584 240 Mainland (Daytona Beach) 1582 241 South Miami 1579 242 Westside (Jacksonville) 1579

7A Possible (The numbers to the left are their population ranking). 81 East Lake (Tarpon Springs) 2366 82 Miami Beach 2363 83 DeLand 2359 84 Lehigh (Lehigh Acres) 2351 85 Osceola (Kissimmee) 2348 86 Cooper City 2335 87 North Port 2326 88 Spruce Creek (Port Orange) 2326 89 South Plantation 2324 90 South Broward (Hollywood) 2317 91 University (Orange City) 2310 92 Atlantic Coast (Jacksonville) 2308 93 Fort Lauderdale 2307 94 Sarasota 2301 95 Doral (Miami) 2300 96 Winter Haven 2297 97 Lennard (Ruskin) 2293 98 Forest (Ocala) 2283 99 Olympic Heights (Boca Raton) 2279 100 Nova (Davie) 2277 101 Poinciana (Kissimmee) 2258 102 Harmony 2247 103 Bloomingdale (Valrico) 2246 104 George Jenkins (Lakeland) 2230 105 Lake Howell (Winter Park) 2223 106 Dwyer (Palm Beach Gardens) 2209 107 Strawberry Crest (Dover) 2209 108 Palmetto Ridge (Naples) 2206 109 Manatee (Bradenton) 2201 110 Crestview 2198 111 Largo 2196 112 Seminole Ridge (Loxahatchee) 2190 113 Navarre 2189 114 Bartow 2183 115 Martin County (Stuart) 2175 116 First Coast (Jacksonville) 2163 117 Riverdale (Fort Myers) 2163 118 Niceville 2153 119 Armwood (Seffner) 2144 120 East Ridge (Clermont) 2136 121 Lyman (Longwood) 2135 122 Everglades (Miramar) 2133 123 Tate (Cantonment) 2129 124 Miramar 2117 125 Melbourne 2109 126 Tampa Bay Tech 2107 127 Wekiva (Apopka) 2107 128 North Miami 2091 129 Viera (Melbourne) 2091 130 Atlantic (Delray Beach) 2087 131 St. Cloud 2082 132 Mitchell (New Port Richey) 2074 133 Palmetto 2071 134 Wiregrass Ranch (Wesley Chapel) 2071 135 McArthur (Hollywood) 2059 136 Wharton (Tampa) 2053 137 Fletcher (Neptune Beach) 2037 138 Chiles (Tallahassee) 2036 139 Blanche Ely (Pompano Beach) 2031 140 Miami Southridge 2018 141 Pace 2005 142 St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale) 1994 143 Lakeland 1991 144 Leon (Tallahassee) 1991 145 Lake Gibson (Lakeland) 1975 146 Winter Springs 1975 147 Land O Lakes 1968 148 Leto (Tampa) 1967 149 Mater Academy (Hialeah Gardens) 1960 150 Dillard (Fort Lauderdale) 1959 151 Fleming Island (Orange Park) 1955 152 Gaither (Tampa) 1953 153 Homestead 1951 154 East River (Orlando) 1946 155 Immokalee 1943 156 Edgewater (Orlando) 1941 157 Sebastian River (Sebastian) 1928 158 East Bay (Gibsonton) 1926 159 Fort Pierce Westwood 1923 160 Kathleen (Lakeland) 1919 161 Plantation 1916

I would note that some schools are going to change in size, due to the emergence of new schools. Nease (Ponte Vedra) for example will probably not have 3110 when Fall of 2021 rolls around due to the opening of a new school. The FHSAA knows this and takes that in account. I am only posting these so that we get a general idea of where your school is based on population and football schools (I did football schools that played district football (non-independent) in 2019, so if a new school opened in 2020 or started playing football in 2020, they are not included). So again take this with a grain of salt. 5A-8A have a range of 80-81 teams per class 2A-4A have a range of 40-42 teams per class. 1A has a range of 37 teams if all teams are invited back despite being over the limit, 35 if they are kicked out and not replaced and 36 if Taylor (Pierson) is let back in to 1A. 8A (possible) 1 Cypress Bay (Weston) 4662 2 Seminole (Sanford) 4294 3 Windermere 4213 4 Dr. Phillips (Orlando) 3596 5 Freedom (Orlando) 3570 6 Timber Creek (Orlando) 3561 7 Western (Davie) 3556 8 John I. Leonard (Greenacres) 3531 9 Lake Nona (Orlando) 3522 10 Columbus (Miami)* 3518 11 Coral Reef (Miami) 3467 12 Apopka 3426 13 Winter Park 3365 14 Douglas (Parkland) 3343 15 Colonial (Orlando) 3289 16 Cypress Creek (Orlando) 3187 17 South Dade (Homestead) 3149 18 Park Vista (Lake Worth) 3128 19 Boca Raton 3125 20 Nease (Ponte Vedra) 3110 21 Bartram Trail (St. Johns) 3094 22 Jupiter 3074 23 Ridge Community (Davenport) 3035 24 Olympia (Orlando) 2974 25 Vero Beach 2969 26 Coral Gables 2962 27 Newsome (Lithia) 2945 28 Palm Beach Central (Wellington) 2926 29 West Boca Raton 2924 30 Treasure Coast (Port St. Lucie) 2903 31 Boone (Orlando) 2865 32 Sandalwood (Jacksonville) 2843 33 Miami High 2840 34 Taravella (Coral Springs) 2790 35 Braddock (Miami) 2789 36 Miami Palmetto 2770 37 Oakleaf (Orange Park) 2750 38 Fort Pierce Central 2745 39 Coral Glades (Coral Springs) 2689 40 West Port (Ocala) 2688 41 Lake Mary 2680 42 Palm Beach Lakes (West Palm Beach) 2651 43 Haines City 2645 44 Lake Brantley 2642 45 Lake Worth 2623 46 Palm Beach Gardens 2622 47 Oak Ridge (Orlando) 2611 48 West Broward (Pembroke Pines) 2580 49 Celebration 2579 50 Riverview (Sarasota) 2577 51 Wellington 2565 52 University (Orlando) 2562 53 Santaluces (Lantana) 2557 54 Forest Hill (West Palm Beach) 2549 55 Centennial (Port St. Lucie) 2542 56 Coral Springs 2533 57 Flagler Palm Coast 2523 58 Flanagan (Pembroke Pines) 2520 59 Palm Harbor University 2520 60 Evans (Orlando) 2512 61 Steinbrenner (Lutz) 2495 62 Alonso (Tampa) 2493 63 Tohopekaliga (Kissimmeee) 2493 64 Riverview (Riverview) 2472 65 Deerfield Beach 2469 66 Lakewood Ranch (Bradenton) 2442 67 Gulf Coast (Naples) 2439 68 Plant (Tampa) 2435 69 Ocoee 2433 70 Mandarin (Jacksonville) 2425 71 Spanish River (Boca Raton) 2422 72 Hagerty (Oviedo) 2417 73 Southwest Miami 2412 74 Monarch (Coconut Creek) 2393 75 Plant City 2390 76 Oviedo 2388 77 West Orange (Winter Garden) 2385 78 Creekside (St. Johns) 2381 79 Venice 2374 80 Royal Palm Beach 2370

Taylor (Pierson) has 576 students so they could be slotted in as well. Chipley and Crescent City would move out of 1A if the FHSAA holds to their 600 limit. Chipley 635 Crescent City 615 Union County (Lake Butler) 596 Fort White 593 Newberry 589 Taylor County (Perry) 583 Bozeman (Panama City) 555 Williston 542 Northview (Bratt) 527 Dixie County (Cross City) 521 Freeport 513 Madison County (Madison) 501 Holmes County (Bonifay) 438 Baker 436 Chiefland 434 Pahokee 432 Hilliard 428 Sneads 427 Wildwood 420 Fort Meade 407 Hamilton County (Jasper) 394 Branford 366 Blountstown 347 Port St. Joe 340 Lafayette (Mayo) 339 Liberty County (Bristol) 335 Bell 330 Trenton 317 Bronson 297 Jay 295 Vernon 290 Franklin County (Eastpoint) 281 Cottondale 263 Wewahitchka 226 Hawthorne 202 Jefferson County (Monticello) 183 Graceville 144

Sigh, I asked for someone...Nevermind. Weren't they loaded last year and lost to a team with 1/3 the number of students Also if you had any sense of geography you would understand that Bolles and Madison would both be in the North and unable to meet in championship

https://floridahsfootball.com/2021/03/08/fhsaa-board-of-directors-votes-for-one-year-reclassification-plan-during-special-meeting/?fbclid=IwAR3Sf8LvWyxaTLn1Yp218-d0Ig_5kZwI8atPhIA7olCUbIVriXMhhVGgFu4#.YEa8iFNOmDZ Someone with better reading comprehension skills than me... so basically the FHSAA are using the 2020 numbers (which were effected by COVID) for one year... so we will reclassify and redistrict but only for one year... am I understanding that correctly?

I still don't understand this reasoning from the FHSAA... Schools are still doing counts whether online or in person. Why not compare the current numbers to previous years numbers and see how radically they are off. If most schools are within 10% of their numbers (assuming no changes caused by opening of new schools) use the numbers and re-classify. Additionally, this is why having classifications based solely on population is idiotic. Use the success and failures of programs to promote and relegate teams and perfect school population counts matter less. Simple example, St. Johns Country Day (Orange Park) just won their 10th straight state championship in girls soccer, finished the season 18-0, gave up 5 goals all season and during the regular season beat the 7A state champion 2-1. What is the point of them staying at 2A? They are obviously better, move their butts up in classification until they face a challenge.

As I have stated a million times, the real answer to all the problems is a promotion/relegation system that starts with size, but allows recent success/failure to be a factor in moving schools up and down. On a logistics note: the FHSAA always basis it on the Fall numbers right? So we should be looking at the Fall 2020 numbers?

Laz, do you think this is something that D2/D3/NAIA schools could latch onto long term? We have seen several professional spring football leagues (AAFL, XFL, Arena) that come and gone over the years, but there always seems to be some interest in the sport continuing past the Super Bowl. Could moving to spring for these D2/D3 schools be a way to get some marketability of their programs/some limited TV revenue? Or will D1 College Basketball/Baseball/Softball always trump lower division football?

Your appreciation of coaches does not put food on the table for their families. At some point that is a consideration, again, I am not advocating Texas or Georgia type money. I am advocating for the same hourly rate that the governor and state legislature think that teachers should be making at a minimum and taking hourly rate and applying it to the job that coaches do . I am not even advocating for winter/spring/summer payment, but simply just fall payment. You want mentors to stay, I agree, but I also don't think they should have to take a vow of poverty in order to do it.

I agree, but the arguments I hear on why we don't coaches and sponsors more always surprises me. As the pittance that they receive is ok, but I do feel that coaches are to blame for this as well. They aren't organized. They don't press their pay concerns and explain it big picture. That after school programs (sports and clubs) are programs that kids off the streets and under somebody's supervision until the late hours. Why wouldn't a community want that? Kids who are involved in two or more extracurriculars are more likely to graduate. These organizations are some of your drop out prevention programs. And no, not every kid who plays a sport is going to win a championship or earn a scholarship and that is okay. Sports have other uses than rings and scholarships. They are about educating and serving the whole student and too many of our districts have forgotten that.

I think a lot of people misunderstand what it is to be a coach (and teacher) in today's world. The expectations of how much time and effort that are put in to the field, the level of commitment, the level of expertise that is demanded is no longer a joke. You can't just be a guy who played back in the day. You have to be year-round committed when a school has dreams of championships. Are you willing to do that for $4,200-6,000? Are you willing to have a little less commitment and do that for $2,500-3,000 as an assistant? I will say this a million times over, but school districts are doing a disservice to their schools, when they don't find ways to increase the compensation for coaches. Do I know the magic number? No, but schools are losing coaches at alarming numbers. The program isn't just the head coach, but the assistants as well. Most of these assistant coaches can work at Lowe's for half the time and make more money and insurance than they get as coaches. Schools are being hard pressed to put great teachers in the classroom (as they should), but it is hard to find that great teacher and person who is willing to coach. If you think about an average school, they have maybe ~100 teachers on campus, you have 8-10 coaching spots (including head coach). Is the principal/school board going to go out of their way to add those coaches on to their faculty and not hurt school academics? Add in volleyball, boys and girls basketball, boys and girls soccer, baseball, softball, track, cross country, cheerleading... and all of a sudden those 8-10 spots become easier to fill, but at a higher cost that some assistants won't make the cut. Quick math... Governor DeSantis made it a goal of starting pay for teachers at 47.5K. Teachers are generally paid for 190 days a year at 7.5 a day. Quick math says the hourly wage works out to $33.33 as teacher. If we assume that a minimum coaches work 2.5 hours a day (as coaches), 6 days a week, 14 weeks (10 games, 1 off week, 1 kickoff classic, and 2 weeks preseason) that same math say 7K should be the minimum salary. Find me the Florida district that pays a coach 7K, just as a coach (not an administrator). I know the push back from average teachers would be, why pay so much for a coach if you can't pay teachers a decent wage. I would generally agree, but how much are we really talking about here. Let's use Duval County, they have 16 High Schools and if we make some basic assumptions (1 HC, 9 Assistants for football, 1 HC and 3 Assistants (JV and Varsity) for team sports, and a Head Coach and Assistant for non-team sports at the current rate in Duval for over $2 million (assuming every school has all teams and fills all coaching spots). Duval County has a total budget of 1.6 billion. The 2 million is a little over .11% of the entire budget. It should be really easy to increase that amount overall.

Governor DeSantis said canceling schools (and thus sports) was a mistake last Spring. Few school districts are going to exercise their local control to shut down schools. Unless, this thing comes and kills thousands of students (which honestly it hasn't by now). I don't think you will see the FHSAA cancel anything (they may delay or postpone or forfeit games), but everything will continue as normal.

Cardinal Newman Coach Dan Burack Resigns https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/high-school/football/2021/01/04/cardinal-newman-high-school-football-coach-dan-burack-resigns-after-one-year/4132089001/ Jack Daniels (former Dwyer Head Football Coach) will be new Head Coach. This will be Cardinal Newman's 3rd Coach in 3 Years. I am going to take this as a sign as Cardinal Newman no longer wants to be just above average and wants to compete for championships.

One of the simplest quotes, but definitely one of my favorites, with the fire storm that came from that article.

This is one of the reasons why on another thread, I dislike the idea of academies (or at least the separation of extra curriculars from school). Many of the kids that we are talking about here are not and would not get a chance at these academies (forgetting the financial aspects). They aren't the right size. High School coaches have to play with what they have. You can't make them grow 3 inches. So they work around and have to coach kids up. My favorite part of high school/college sports is seeing a team grow. A team goes from below average to average to good to great. A lot of that has to do with good coaching at both the head coach and position coach level.

Very rarely is an upper middle class school only good at one sport. For various reasons, I have a general dislike of that school. In Cross Country, the Boys team is consistently in the top 5 in their class (one runner-up). The Girls teams have won 2 in their class (not as good recently). In Swimming, Boys were runner-up recently and girls runner-up 3 times and a state championship. In Golf, Boys have won a state championship and 3 individual championships and in girls one team runner-up. In Tennis, Boys have won a state championship and a runner-up. In Girls Volleyball, one state runner-up and 16 playoff appearances since 2000. In Basketball, boys have been sporadically 1 and dones in the playoffs. Girls have been in the Final Four, 4 times. In soccer, girls have won one and runner-up once. In baseball, state runner-up once, with lots of one and dones (not consistent). In softball, 2 state championships In girls lacrosse, a state runner-up and state championship. We have schools that could only wish they had a tenth of this much success in the last 20 years. This is all to say, you don't succeed in all of these sports over such a long period of time without the family backing. When Coach Sutherland eventually retires, Bartram Trail's success will live on after him. It might have a transition moment, but it will be fine.

I think @ColumbiaHighFan2017classhits it on the head. I will add one more thing as well. Money matters: you are talking about upper middle class families, a school with a free and reduced lunch rate of 7% with high academic scores. Parents are going to put the money into training/camps/clinics, kids don't have to focus on school or sports or job. They can do sports, get decent grades and have parents provide everything else. Better academics gives principals better flexibility in who they hirer. They can hire another on-campus football coach. A growing area allows football coaches to get staff positions at local elementary and middle schools as PE teachers (instead of a more rigorous math, English, science, or social studies).

King's Academy? Wakulla? Hamilton County?

To be fair, last week's games were more akin to Regional Semi-finals than Regional Finals.