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Who hosts in the final four? Region 1 or 2?

Darter... I'm just seeing it coming... Apopka is "not there", etc.... been high on you guys all year! It continues. BT has had some close calls this year. Side note: My favorite game (in general) is DP-APK. I worked for the City during my first internship in 2011 when the economy was crap (during the recession) so I've been rooting for APK ever since. I played in 6 DP-APK match ups myself thru Pop Warner & HS (went 1-5). Any way I'm hoping for a final four game this year!! Could happen. If so, dogs and burgs on me

8A North – Score Predictions Haven’t done this in a while… scores represent my overall assessment of the spread & over/under. Will be fun to see how right or wrong I am. Where do you agree/disagree? Round 1 Region 1 Seminole 38, Mandarin 27 DeLand 21, Timber Creek 17 Apopka 21, Flagler Palm Coast 13 Bartram Trail 28, Spruce Creek 13 Region 2 Sarasota Riverview 35, Lake Nona 7 Steinbrenner 21, Newsome 20 Osceola 32, Riverview Riverview 14 Dr. Phillips 26, Lennard 10 - Round 2 Seminole 28, DeLand 14 Apopka 21, Bartram Trail 20 Sarasota Riverview 27, Steinbrenner 17 Dr. Phillips 20, Osceola 17 Round 3 Seminole 27, Apopka 19 Dr. Phillips 24, Sarasota Riverview 23 Final Four Seminole 30, Dr. Phillips 22

We should just pin this ranking. Pin it through the playoffs.

DP is 8-2. I’ll take losses to Seminole and Apopka over a 10-0 season playing cupcakes.

PLANT... called it when they were 0-6. WP should be weighted 50% instead of 35%. OOWP should be weighted lower. All hover near .500.

Fun story. DP was unranked in 2016 and 2017, made the title both years (won it in 2017). DP was unranked last year, made elite 8 in a down year. Looks like DP is right on track in 2019! You all miss a key factor: DP schedules the top teams every year and improves greatly as the season progresses. This is not the same team that lost to Seminole week 1.

If you are isolating to Florida and not scaling to the US I’d say the “average” category stars somewhere near 150-200. There is a big drop off (and tail in the weak side of the distribution) with small schools that you’d have to account for.

My point: Go watch some football up north. I’ve been to a few games in Massachusetts (Reading Rockets). They are always a contender for the Mass Super Bowl but would be blasted by a top 50 FL team.

Just by your definitions this list is wrong. ”Average 36-60” The top 36-60 teams in FL are probably in the top 5% nationally. Someone do the math. I don’t know how many teams there are nationally. Generally the #50 team in FL is somewhere around 400-500 nationally. With 20,000 teams in the US that’d be top 2% to top 2.5%. This name/ranking convention would work for a smaller state like Maryland or Alabama. On a national scale the top 25 in Florida would all be “great”. Most would win state titles in 20 or more states. I’d then say the top 4-6 depending on the year are elite and the top 7-15 are just a notch below.

DP has brought their A game the past 10 quarters. They looked like the DP of the past last night. The Boone game is a major outlier but the team has vastly improved since then. The offense is starting to click as the new QB Givens has gotten more comfortable. DP has about 9 guys with D1 offers, so the talent is there. You can view the Wekiva game on youtube here:

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I mean...really? 80?

DP is a different football team since being down 21-0 at the half against Apopka, losing 21-13 and having two potential TD's called back. They manhandled Wekiva and it could have been much worse. Completely different team out there. Will they crack Columbia's top 80? Word on Troll Street is no

1. Jones 2. Edgewater 3. Seminole 4. Wekiva 5. Lake Mary (knew they'd be tough) 6. Osceola 7. Winter Park 8t. Apopka 8t. Dr. Phillips 8t. DeLand 8t. West Orange 8t. Bishop Moore 8t. Ocoee 8t. Oviedo 8t. Spruce Creek parity galore beyond #3-4

How the hell is a shooting at a HS game not national news. This can't even become close to normalized. I'm not an anti-gun guy (don't read between any lines) but THAT IS RIDICULOUS. Who cares who won.

Nice list

Jones is only a sleeper outside of Orlando.

I already updated the original post. Watching the highlights I saw........... 1) Edgewater blocking was incredible 2) On the long plays DP was in position but the Edgewater guys went full 99 overall madden ranking and made unreal plays. Was a shock to all on the DP side. 34-0 in the 2nd just doesn't happen.

What's scary is on paper this DP offense is as loaded they've been since 2010. I said I wasn't going to get into it... let's just say I'm a confused man at the moment. I can't scale the damn thing like I used to.... Lakeland and Edgewater look light years ahead of two major 8A contenders, and there has ALWAYS been parity at that level especially in C-Fla. The times are changing. This year may seriously rebalance some of the high parity we've seen in years past in C-Fla....It's sImilar to the early 2000's when (guess who) Edgewater and Lakeland were a notch above the rest (in addition to Armwood and the occasional outlier team like 02 Apopka). Rant over... not even gonna proof read it.... DP @ Seminole will be VERY telling especially when comparing the best of 8A vs the best of 7A. I have Seminole 35-20 because I can't pick DP in every game for eternity and need to keep my board drip level on at least 90. McClain could have himself a day

Original post updated with final ranking before week 1 and picks for the top 5 week 1 games. I don't want to talk about the Edgewater-DP game. Edgewater is elite...legit. I watched the highlights. I underestimated their offensive line, which is a strength of the team. They execute on offense like they've been suited up for months. State title contender without a doubt and should be nationally ranked. They play Bishop Moore this week in a huge game that I have them winning 35-17.

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One final update before kickoff classics. See original post with top games by week.

Cocoa bumped due to transfers and overall depth. Top 4 are very close IMO.