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Dr. Phillips (3) Ha Ha Clinton Dix (S-CHI) class of 2011 Marcell Harris (S-SF), class of 2013 Matt Milano (LB-BUF), class of 2013 - All three played safety at DP.

Top Classes (College Prospects) by Year *Major input from Chris Hays’ analysis, other outlets such as 247 and Rivals, and what I’ve seen on the field. 2020 1. Jones (CB, RB, DT, DT, ATH, ATH, WR) 2. Dr. Phillips (LB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, OL) 3. Apopka (DE, RB, CB) 4. Winter Park (WR, CB, QB, WR) 5. West Orange (RB, WR, ATH, RB) 6. Seminole (TE, WR, ATH) 7. Edgewater (S, RB, OL) 8. Olympia (ATH, QB, WR) 2021 1. Jones 2. Dr. Phillips 3. Seminole 4. Apopka 5. Edgewater 6. Olympia 2022 1. Dr. Phillips 2. Jones 3. Lake Mary 4. Seminole Overall, Jones and Dr. Phillips have the most prospects through the 2022 class by a good margin. Of course, this list will change. Behind Jones and DP... Seminole, Apopka, Edgewater and West Orange have a lot of underclassmen talent coming up. Also - watch out for Olympia. This list includes Lake, Orange, Osceola, Seminole and Sumter County. I don’t follow Volusia or Brevard close enough and I know de cleater will give me a pass for not ranking S Sumter. Out of those two counties (Brevard, Volusia) I’d keep an eye out for Cocoa.... then DeLand, Mainland and Rockledge.

Cool stat I never considered... Apopka and Dr. Phillips have represented the large class ‘north bracket’ in the title game 6 of the last 9 years — and the stat was 6/8 before this season. APK went 2-1 and DP went 1-2. Mandarin (2018) represents this year obviously — Plant (2011) and Osceola (2015) were the others.

There are only 6 large class programs (6A/7A/8A) in the 2010’s list... recent history is weighted heavily by programs in the lower classes. We’ve had lots of consistency in state title game representation from 1A to 5A.

Nice!! I had Coach Myers in 2000 and we went 12-1. Then had Crofoot in 2001 (10-1) and Foisy in 2002 (6-3). We had a powerhouse of our own in our age group but the Griffey teams were all-time! I remember they were the first DP team to ever beat Lakeshore or Mandarin (who were always the Jacksonville champions) and advance to the state final. Was fun watching you guys blow everyone out. Then there was the Pine Hills powerhouse with Embry Peeples a year or two above you all. Good times... I stayed highly involved with the Pop Warner program thru High School. Crazy that you were a DP coach!

I’d have them about even or just below where Carol City and Central were this year. Probably about even with 2018 STA as well. We’ll never know. Watching them play... they were just on another level unlike any other DP team I’ve seen. The Central team they played was special and deserving of the title.

That team would have cruised through the current 8A... The old FL 6A was just brutal. Top tier HS football.

For Central to score 42 on that DP team... is completely nuts...that was as good as DP will ever be IMHO. They rolled everyone (even Seminole Ridge although the score doesn’t say so). We had 30+ D1 guys (3 on NFL rosters) in the 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 classes. That Central team was equally stacked. Going into the game DP was the #6 team in the USA and Central was #21 (I believe) according to Rivals. Probably the biggest collection of talent in a large class FL title since at least 2000 (maybe ever?). I wouldn’t doubt that any less than 40 future college players played in the 2010 6A title.

Wow, and Central’s Devonte Freeman isn’t even listed!

Miami Central, Pine Forest, Southeast? Complete guesses on the second and third.

Off topic but... this reminded me of another legend - the 2nd/3rd teamer for Norland who caught the game winning bomb vs Edgewater in the 2002 6A final... one of the craziest stories ever... heard the kid hadn’t played all year. That was my era of playing... long time ago now!

Bobby Washington, Killian

Lamar Miller, Miami Killian?

Ken Griffey Jr at Pop Warner practice. His son was on mighty mites when I was Jr. Midget

Dr. Phillips 2010 - Edgewater 48-7 Osceola 49-7 Olympia 49-0 Cypress Creek 52-0 Boone 45-0 Evans 62-6 Oak Ridge 56-28 Gateway 59-0 Freedom 56-13 West Orange 49-6 R1: Olympia 52-3 R2: Oak Ridge 45-0 R3: Seminole Ridge 38-28 R4: Sanford Seminole 37-13 Title: Miami Central 27-42 FYI: 14-1 on the field, but the FHSAA decided to enforce a rule on DP that they enforced on no other school. DP had an illegal immigrant living within their zone that was on the team that they found out about during the spring weightlifting season. Was a non-impact player. At that time only DP/Winter Park did that paperwork. 14-1 all day and I’ll always use that record.

Ah DP just missed the cut with 4

https://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/fhsaa/gam6088fe78bd Go to 2:04:10... listen to the broadcasters. They allowed fans to text in. ”Ray Finkle.... Kicker from the 80’s”

Columbus looks good. Title contender for sure. Size, depth, skill, and despite the penalties they’ve put it all together. Out of the north, Wekiva or Mandarin could really give them a good game. 8A once again will not disappoint.

Man these teams are big on the lines. Columbus just took a 14-6 lead late in the second

6-0 end 1st, both teams look good. Penalties hurting Columbus

I believe Dr. Phillips at Sarasota Riverview can be found here: https://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/fhsaa/gam6088fe78bd

Vero Beach’s only touchdown was taken out of the receivers hands by a DP DB at the 2 yard line. It was called a TD anyway. DP is a different team than they were a few weeks ago. 5 losses pay off. If you will it dude, it is no dream.

Darter I think you’re focusing on one data point (the DP-Apopka game) a little too much. DP’s performance has been highly variable. While I could see Vero Beach winning handily, and that may very well happen, it depends on which DP shows up. They’re volatile. The DP you saw has shown up 4 times this year (36.4%). I don’t “pick” winners in games anymore, I focus more on probability. I’d give Vero Beach a 4/5 chance of winning. The only way DP wins is if they move the chains (control possession) and pressure the quarterback. DB’s will need to keep tight coverage and not allow space. I’ll be in Atlanta but Vero Beach has an excellent online stream with commentary for fans to watch. Looking forward to it.

DP (6-5) got itself a nice round 1 win after being down 17-6 at the half against Centennial. Final score was 34-28 in OT. DP had two punts blocked and a third snap went over the punter’s head. Need to clean up the special teams to have a chance against Vero Beach. The Panther offense is showing some sparks but needs consistency. They’ve found a nice wrinkle that worked against a good defense tonight in the second half. DP will need to put pressure on Vero’s QB. DP didn’t get much push tonight defensively.

Almost too much to say here. DP is extremely young but talented. The QB and both lines (as identified above) have been inconsistent. The specific achilles heel has been 3-and-outs. Teams have simply scored with short fields on DP. DP has imploded when they’ve gone down by 10-14 points four times, with the lone exception being the West Orange game. The worst game of the season was Apopka. That result does not fit their overall regular season trend. DP was down 14-7 in the 3rd but lost in a blowout. In terms of the playoffs, we’ll see. DP may have already faced 5 teams in the regular season that could win 8A Region 2. Look at their schedule and decide for yourself. They could be 10-0 or 9-1 with Edgewater’s schedule. We have two critical data points to look at in regard to DP in 8A Region 2. Bishop Moore blew out Centennial and Centennial is in a parity bubble with Vero and Treasure Coast. Bishop Moore has not been a top tier CFla team and is probably in a parity bubble with DP. Big data point #2 is the Kickoff Classic game, which for a half was starters only and very competitive. Osceola led 7-3 at the half. - Conclusion: I wouldn’t say DP is going to go far this year. One playoff win would be great and would extend the streak of years with a playoff win to 13 years. I am certain that the game results will he highly variable and will depend on which DP team shows up. Very few teams have had to play 2 teams at the level of Lee County and Wekiva. I don’t have a clue on this and its all speculation, but that game in Georgia may have had an impact on the next few weeks against TC, WO, APK, Mainland etc. - DP will return 10 on offense (plus 5 or so very good reserves) and about 5 or 6 on defense next year. The freshman class is very good, with Joe Joe Patti (QB) and Joanes Fortilien (WR) complementing at least 6-7 other potential D1 guys. This year they would have been a title contender if they just had a few extra guys at critical positions. Talent is there. Prediction: Powell twins could be a big difference in the playoffs.