Pipe Dreams

Lamar Miller, Miami Killian?

Ken Griffey Jr at Pop Warner practice. His son was on mighty mites when I was Jr. Midget

Dr. Phillips 2010 - Edgewater 48-7 Osceola 49-7 Olympia 49-0 Cypress Creek 52-0 Boone 45-0 Evans 62-6 Oak Ridge 56-28 Gateway 59-0 Freedom 56-13 West Orange 49-6 R1: Olympia 52-3 R2: Oak Ridge 45-0 R3: Seminole Ridge 38-28 R4: Sanford Seminole 37-13 Title: Miami Central 27-42 FYI: 14-1 on the field, but the FHSAA decided to enforce a rule on DP that they enforced on no other school. DP had an illegal immigrant living within their zone that was on the team that they found out about during the spring weightlifting season. Was a non-impact player. At that time only DP/Winter Park did that paperwork. 14-1 all day and I’ll always use that record.

Ah DP just missed the cut with 4

https://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/fhsaa/gam6088fe78bd Go to 2:04:10... listen to the broadcasters. They allowed fans to text in. ”Ray Finkle.... Kicker from the 80’s”

Columbus looks good. Title contender for sure. Size, depth, skill, and despite the penalties they’ve put it all together. Out of the north, Wekiva or Mandarin could really give them a good game. 8A once again will not disappoint.

Man these teams are big on the lines. Columbus just took a 14-6 lead late in the second

6-0 end 1st, both teams look good. Penalties hurting Columbus

I believe Dr. Phillips at Sarasota Riverview can be found here: https://www.nfhsnetwork.com/events/fhsaa/gam6088fe78bd

Vero Beach’s only touchdown was taken out of the receivers hands by a DP DB at the 2 yard line. It was called a TD anyway. DP is a different team than they were a few weeks ago. 5 losses pay off. If you will it dude, it is no dream.

Darter I think you’re focusing on one data point (the DP-Apopka game) a little too much. DP’s performance has been highly variable. While I could see Vero Beach winning handily, and that may very well happen, it depends on which DP shows up. They’re volatile. The DP you saw has shown up 4 times this year (36.4%). I don’t “pick” winners in games anymore, I focus more on probability. I’d give Vero Beach a 4/5 chance of winning. The only way DP wins is if they move the chains (control possession) and pressure the quarterback. DB’s will need to keep tight coverage and not allow space. I’ll be in Atlanta but Vero Beach has an excellent online stream with commentary for fans to watch. Looking forward to it.

DP (6-5) got itself a nice round 1 win after being down 17-6 at the half against Centennial. Final score was 34-28 in OT. DP had two punts blocked and a third snap went over the punter’s head. Need to clean up the special teams to have a chance against Vero Beach. The Panther offense is showing some sparks but needs consistency. They’ve found a nice wrinkle that worked against a good defense tonight in the second half. DP will need to put pressure on Vero’s QB. DP didn’t get much push tonight defensively.

Almost too much to say here. DP is extremely young but talented. The QB and both lines (as identified above) have been inconsistent. The specific achilles heel has been 3-and-outs. Teams have simply scored with short fields on DP. DP has imploded when they’ve gone down by 10-14 points four times, with the lone exception being the West Orange game. The worst game of the season was Apopka. That result does not fit their overall regular season trend. DP was down 14-7 in the 3rd but lost in a blowout. In terms of the playoffs, we’ll see. DP may have already faced 5 teams in the regular season that could win 8A Region 2. Look at their schedule and decide for yourself. They could be 10-0 or 9-1 with Edgewater’s schedule. We have two critical data points to look at in regard to DP in 8A Region 2. Bishop Moore blew out Centennial and Centennial is in a parity bubble with Vero and Treasure Coast. Bishop Moore has not been a top tier CFla team and is probably in a parity bubble with DP. Big data point #2 is the Kickoff Classic game, which for a half was starters only and very competitive. Osceola led 7-3 at the half. - Conclusion: I wouldn’t say DP is going to go far this year. One playoff win would be great and would extend the streak of years with a playoff win to 13 years. I am certain that the game results will he highly variable and will depend on which DP team shows up. Very few teams have had to play 2 teams at the level of Lee County and Wekiva. I don’t have a clue on this and its all speculation, but that game in Georgia may have had an impact on the next few weeks against TC, WO, APK, Mainland etc. - DP will return 10 on offense (plus 5 or so very good reserves) and about 5 or 6 on defense next year. The freshman class is very good, with Joe Joe Patti (QB) and Joanes Fortilien (WR) complementing at least 6-7 other potential D1 guys. This year they would have been a title contender if they just had a few extra guys at critical positions. Talent is there. Prediction: Powell twins could be a big difference in the playoffs.

There is no “snitchin” in HS football. There is a set of rules. You either follow them or you don’t. Prepare for the consequences if you don’t.

You represent yourself very poorly on here. The playoff assessment is incorrect, for one (see region 2), and the tone is meant to belitte high athletes. Even when you stoop low, your assessment is incorrect. Nice.

DP should go 6-4 or 5-5, and will probably be a favorite in round one of the playoffs. The schedule is brutal. Then comes Vero Beach or Osceola in all likelihood if DP makes the second round. Osceola was up on DP 7-3 in the third when starters came out in the kickoff classic. The Apopka margin was very surprising. This team is young, but is certainly not garbage as our resident tough guy likes to refer to HS athletes. They have fought through a tough schedule that also included a 31-28 loss to a very strong West Orange team. Looking forward to seeing their progression through the season. Maybe we will pull of an upset or two. Mainland (this week) and Wekiva (in three weeks) loom and present an opportunity.

I actually think DP will be ready come playoff time and these tough games will pay off. West Orange had three big plays on offense (2 to their STUD WR, who is among the best I’ve seen at the HS level) and an INT return TD. DP adjusted and started to dominate but by then it was too late. The game was basically two separate blowouts within four quarters. I also like West Orange RB Nimea Hall. Bruiser and deceptively quick. Once DP puts it all together they’ll be a force for any of the teams in 8A Region 2, including Osceola, Vero Beach and Sarasota Riverview. Looking forward to the game. We are young on both sides of the ball but we’ve got a lot of talent. Good luck to both teams. As I’ve said many times APK is my second favorite program.

In addition my original proposal... Maybe add a 7th class... a rural classification consisting of 1A to 3A teams that meet the rural definition....... adding 4A for the rural class would be taking it too far with the powers that be there. - My original point — the Division 1, 2, 3, etc. idea will not be good for Florida HS football. If anything we need to combine some of the smaller classes (1-2A, 3-4A) and maybe add a separate rural class that has a wide enrollment range.

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I see that the FHSAA wants to fix a system that is not broken; the large classification playoffs. The idea of taking the previous two-year results for all programs and lumping them together into "Division 1" etc., is a horrid idea that will lead to 1) massive transfers to D1 programs; and 2) bad programs going 9-1 while elite programs go 5-5 because "it was unfair". This also does not simulate a real world environment of meritocracy. That said, the change introducing seeding was much needed and, in my opinion, made the Florida playoff system extremely interesting from a match-up perspective in the top three classifications. Last year, the 8A north playoffs were amazing (not just because we won). My question/idea is, has anybody considered COMBINING 1A & 2A, and COMBINING 3A & 4A, and adding one round to the playoffs for those classifications? (Edit: Remove the round 1 bye) This would result in 32 teams making the playoffs for each of the new classes. It would ALSO increase the number of teams in each region, reducing the amount of travel needed because there are a higher number of potential opponents within an x mile radius (don't argue with me on this... it's a brute fact). EDIT: There could also be a rural classification consisting of 1A, 2A and 3A teams that meet the definition of “rural” per the FHSAA. This class would have a wider enrollment range but would 1) cut on travel costs and 2) cut down on the number of teams in the new combined 1-2A and 3-4A classifications. Anyway, the resulting classes would be: 1A & 2A = the new 1A 3A & 4A = the new 2A Existing 5A = the new 3A Existing 6A = the new 4A Existing 7A = the new 5A Existing 8A = the new 6A New Class = Rural 1A-3A Schools

Wekiva makes offenses look pedestrian..... hope they keep it up

There ya go Wekiva!

Wekiva’s best chance is for their defense to give their offense short fields and capitalize on turnovers. Jones actually has a very good defense so that accounts for a bit of the 17 that Wekiva put up last week. Hopefully Wekiva can pull out the W, I’m rooting for them. In the case of DP-Lee — sorry to get off topic — Lee County is the real deal. They shut out defending 3A runner up Peach County last night, 33-0. Peach County hadn’t been shut out since 2007. The Trojans have allowed 55 total yards (-70 rushing yards) in their first three games.

After week 2, including Brevard and Flagler 1 Wekiva (1-0) 2 Apopka (2-0) 3 Osceola (2-0) 4 Rockledge (2-0) 5 DeLand (2-0) 6 Seminole (1-1) - L DeLand 7 Dr. Phillips (1-1) - L OOS 8 Edgewater (2-0) 9 West Orange (1-1) - L Rockledge 10 Winter Park (2-0) 11 Cocoa (1-1) 12 Viera (0-2) - L Rockledge, OOS 13 Jones (1-1) - L Wekiva 14 Mainland (0-2) - L DeLand, OOS 15 Bishop Moore (1-1) - L Edgewater 16 Oviedo (1-1) - L Winter Park Lake Mary Flagler Palm Coast Palm Bay Lake Nona (1-1) - L Winter Park Lake Brantley - L Bishop Moore Boone (1-1) - L Lake Nona

Was expecting a picture of Pipe Dreams when I read the thread title...