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7 hours ago, SFL SPY said:
I was told by a very reliable source that Oxbridge has roughly 20 players participating in spring practice.
They usually reload in the summer time but I will have to wait and see what they bring in but right now Oxbridge will be in my top 10 local schools but no where near the top
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Vero definitely will have a game this year vs pahokee
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2 hours ago, SPCjessica2004 said:
Hello everyone! Here's my Spring 2018 thoughts as we get ready to start playing the Spring games next week. Please note that due to family constraints I haven't had a chance to individually look at each team in 3A, but I feel about 90% confident in my top 10 teams or so.
Here's my Pre-Spring 2018 top 5 teams.
1) Chaminade-Madonna: The Lions broke through in 2017 to win the class 3A state championship; however, the Lions also had a huge graduating class. The 2017 class will be remembered as the team that turned the program back around from punching bag to powerhouse in 3 short years. So, how does the the 2018 team look? In my opinion- even better than the 2017 version. The Lions already had a strong core of returning Seniors such as Keontra Smith, TeCorey Couch, Marlin, Mayo, Jimmy Nixon and a host other promising younger athletes. I haven't even touched on superstar QB Dalean Menard and the additions of Willie Davis from Miami Central and John Dunmore from American Heritage Delray. The Lions also have consistency in the coaching ranks which is good since the schedule is once again going to be a bear.
The takeaway: Chaminade-Madonna may not have the star power at WR as they did in 2017, but they're better at every other position on the field than last year.
The Outlook and Future: Chaminade is deeper on both lines, but linebacker depth is an issue. Still, this is the best team in 3A by the length of 2 football fields. I don't see Chaminade hanging around 3A after 2018 unless the FHSAA goes to 6 divisions, so we'll see where they end up. For now, consider it an upset of epic proportions if they don't win 2 in a row. The program also put the finishing touches on lighting at the stadium thus CMHS should finally be allowed to play night games a boon for Lion fans.
2) Clearwater Central Catholic: CCC has won 5 of the past 6 regional championships in highly competitive Class 3A-Region 3 and has also compiled a 29-1 regular season record in the past 3 years. The 2018 version of the Marauders should be special as there is no lack of star power leading the way. Lead by brothers Jerjuan and Jerzhan Newton CCC also returns Brett Seither, Kennedy Roberts and Richie illaraza (Wr/CB). As with any team that has John Davis as a coach- the QB position is solid as the Marauders return highly talented QB Rory Hicks from last years campaign. CCC has also beefed up both the offensive and defensive lines thanks to some key transfers from local teams- highlighted by Zack Elam from Indian Rocks Christian.
The Outlook and Future: CCC has a huge game at Tampa Catholic in early September. CCC has been overwhelmingly successful against better coached, more talented and flat out better Tampa Catholic teams- but, those games have all come in the friendly confines of Marauder stadium where CCC has only lost 1 regular season home game since 2011 (IMG in 2014). TC presents a clear and present danger to the Marauders reign atop region 3.
Looking longer term- One of the major talking points this offseason has been the money than the Marauders have come into. Not only is building a 2 million dollar football facility- according to the website, they're also knocking down buildings and re landscaping the grounds this summer. That's not cheap. Still, it shows a commitment to academics and athletics, thus I anticipate these guys aren't going away anytime soon.
3) Oxbridge Academy: There are a lot of questions about Oxbridge Academy, few of which will be answered in Spring. The Thunderwolves are coming off a state finals run in a game they could have stolen from Chaminade. They bring back one of the top 1-2 punches in the state with QB Gio Richardson and Rb James Meeks. The Thunderwolves defense is also stout with LB Dorian Jones and Antavious Lane. Expect WR Jeremiah Dezard to have a strong season if teams try to limit Meeks running ability. The lines are stout with 260/270 lbs linemen. As is typical for the program- Oxbridge will be playing up for most of the season.
Looking longer term- Oxbridge may not have the depth of years past, but they are further along than people think. By all accounts, this is still the best team in Palm Beach county and even though getting in athletes has become tougher, it's not impossible. There is enough here to get Oxbridge back to Orlando, especially since the north of 3A is expected to be down this year. I always felt that Oxbridge was going to be a good team in 2018, but after the current seniors graduate- it's anybody's guess where they go. This is part of the reason I can't, currently, put Oxbridge at #2. There's a lot of star power in the senior class, but it thins out- quickly- once you roll down into the underclass.
4) Tampa Catholic: Every year in 3A it seems like there is an elite or traditionally strong private school that gets hammered with defections. This year it's Tampa Catholic's turn. After losing their top 2 WR's, QB, and top returning linemen the Crusaders have had to depend on a youth movement. So, where does that leave the Crusaders? Actually- in a great position. Tampa Catholic has one of the top upcoming QB's perhaps in all of America with Kenny Kelly's son Kilal Kelly. The rising Sophomore is extremely athletic and has star RB Jalen Bussey and WR Chris Murray to help adjust as the signal caller for TC. Expect LB/FB Quincy Hipps Jr. to spearhead the TC attack. Another name to keep an eye out for is DJ Taylor who has the tools to be a major D-1 prospect. The Crusaders will continue to be stout in the trenches and the coaching feature numerous 300+ lbs guys including 6'4 305 Tyrus Gibson and 6'6 310 Jordan Sandlin.
Looking longer term and the outlook: TC is well positioned for years to come to be competitive as long as Kilal Kelly continues his rapid maturation. TC's season may come down to a 3 game stretch that features CCC, Crestview, Berekley Prep in consecutive weeks. If TC goes 3-0 in this stretch, they should find themselves in a position to host until the final 4.
5) Florida High: The Seminoles were the 2017 feel good story of class 3A. A team that managed to upset Ft. White and Taylor County brings back a healthy amount of star power. Region 1 in 3A is often overlooked for the private powers in the south, but there is quality football played in the Panhandle. With Willie Taggart taking over the reigns at FSU, it's expected his son will get the nod at Florida High, this will be a huge boon for the Seminoles as it gives them a true duel threat QB. In addition, Raymond Woodie II will help the Seminoles by providing a play maker on both sides of the ball. The Seminoles have good size and depth in the trenches and enough athletes to get back to the final 4 in 2018.
Looking longer term and the outlook: FSU School will not sneak up on anybody this year- the schedule is competitive, but the talent is here to make a statement, especially since a bulk of the roster from last years team returns. With Willie Taggart transferring into the program it gives the Seminoles the cornerstone piece going forward. Stability in the coaching staff and administration support should keep FSU school in the running.
Other teams I'm looking at, specifically in Spring:
Berkeley Prep -Qb Joshua Youngblood has 21 college football offers. Well coached team with Jaylen Harrell at LB/FB.
American Heritage Delray- Very talented, but still young team. Will make noise- tough schedule.
Cardinal Newman- Expect rapid improvement.
Lakeland Christian- Program has a knack for landing a few solid Polk county transfers.
Melbourne Central Catholic- Never underestimate a Stacey Sizemore lead program. Will be young this year, but have the pieces to make noise.
Teams I'm not sure what they have, but would like more info:
Ocala Trinity- Program has fallen off, but new coach could shake things up.
Orlando First Academy- Undefeated in 2017, ran into MCC. Most of the team returns in 2018.
Ft. White- Talented team that was upset early last year.
Final thoughts:
To me, Chaminade-Madonna is the clear #1. CCC and Oxbridge will fight for #2 throughout the season. Tampa Catholic is a wildcard. FSU school has the most room for growth as I think they could be very strong this year.
This is class 3A football in Florida- the teams that show up for their Spring game will probably be drastically different than the teams that show up in Fall. It's a full-time job looking for transfers into and out of programs.
Great points and top 10 for as 3a I will have to disagree with Oxbridge being the best team in Palm Beach this season. Oxbridge is definitely one of the top teams but I wouldn't put them a clear number 1 over teams like Dwyer, Atlantic, Palm Beach Central, Pahokee and even Glades Central this season but some questions will be answered over the next few weeks like you stated
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The Muck Bowl looking like it's building up to be a good one this year both teams are pretty stacked this year I'm giving the edge to Pahokee at this point in spring but we have some time to go before the game
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The issue is not so much on the coaches here with recruiting what's going on now is that kids recruiting kids and parents recruiting parents. This is the issue most local coaches are facing in our county (Palm Beach), the parents are talking to other parents about which program is best for their child then to top that players at those programs talk to players at other programs getting kids to transfer. The article was a great example showing how the climate of high school football hyas changed. Atlantic (Delray) had a great season last year made it to state but they received about 10-15 guys that contributed both offensively and defensively which made it difficult for local teams to compete with them.
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Agree and again kids transfer for all type of reasons ...so what about that band member that transfers or debate team member or just a kid moving for better education in their opinion? again the state will not touch that issue because of the negative spin that will follow such a ruling. Texas, Florida, Cali, and Ga will always have issues with kids movement so the cry out over it will continue to be there from coaches and fans but the look for the state to do anything soon it's been 40 plus years of movement now it's just reported more.
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44 minutes ago, Pipe Dreams said:
I just want to go on the record and say that if you have inside information about high school coaches paying players to transfer to another high school, it is obvious that your sole responsibility should be to report it to the FHSAA.
These are kids.
The FHSAA will be informed, at a minimum, of what is allegedly going on at Southridge.
Those guys at the FHSAA has a stacked of papers on their desk I'm sure going back 2 or 3 years...first they will need the kid that allegedly received money that transferred to admit he did which I will doubt he does that because his eligibility will be in jeopardy then you will need some type of paper trail to connect his new school to him and if it's cash I don't know how they will be able to even connect that without the issue not being criminal right? But if it's true that's horrible but I just don't know what the state could do about it because it will be very difficult to connect
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1 hour ago, Miamidade92 said:
I know this topic will be taboo, but it's starting to come out. High schools buying athletes. Tyrique Stevenson, a 4-5 star athlete has been with South dade since his freshman year. he just transferred to Southridge for his senior year. Southridge was just taken over by Sedrick Irvin, who took Miami High from 2-7 to the state semifinal game in ONE season. Now he goes to Southridge and is trying to recruit players to that school as well. I've heard form people that he lured Stevenson away form South Dade from anywhere between $5,000-$8500. Last week in South Florida radio it came out on the Joe Rose show.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/audio/joe-rose-show/ Listen to 4/19 hour 2, minute 36.
I'm sure this happens all over the state, my question is, CAN something be done about this? Or with the FHSAA rule change, is this legal?
Doubt if that rumor is true I mean paying a player that type of money at the high school level just to come play there for a year. But if this story starting to gain momentum then I'm sure the state is very aware of that situation but I find that hard to believe a kid was payed to come play for a former coach, I believe there is a possibility he was recruited to go there but being payed that is crazy
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Central Im guessing is down this year its no way STA schedule this game if Central is reloading
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6 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
..all good points...the "problem" may be no bigger than many other issues. Totally agree it starts at home and agree "isolating" the problem will be difficult. People are going to figure out how to manipulate the system, whatever it might be.
I don't think kids/parents in other sports/activities(except basketball) are being as bold when it comes to sticking it in the face of the public that "I'm gonna git mine." It's not like the media is going out of its way to dig up dirt on hs football. Some kids/parents are making a blatant mockery of the system..and being downright cocky about it. And that is what I am afraid is going to push the politicians to do something drastic...wise decision or not.
When it comes to the boldness of the student athletes at the high school level with announcing their movements I can agree with you there that it does come off as a bit cocky or arrogant when those things take place but I'm pretty sure the motivation comes from the networks that televise these kids making college decision with "Gender reveal" type prompts and etc or parents that are becoming more famous for walking out on their sons because of a college choice and major networks giving it all the attention. It's all "supply and demand" if the public loves and hates what high school football has become but gives it the attention more than a team winning then kids will continue to do so. Kids transferring get more attention than anything else right now in high school football guys always want to know who, why and where a kid is going it's actually becoming a major market for it Lol...with the momentum these travel 7 on 7 teams getting watch how far this thing go from here we are just in the beginning stages
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1 hour ago, Proseteye said:
And, that is why I am against unlimited transfers for any reason at anytime. There is little to no cohesion or camaraderie and many of these teams are just becoming farm teams with colleges for certain players only . In the process so many kids on these teams are suffering as well as good coaches. When a kid is a starter or has a good possibility of making the team as a starter and then gets replaced by another kid who has just transferred in and who might not even be there for an entire season or into a second season, what does that do to the moral of that kid plus the other team members? What does it do to a coach who has a hard enough job dealing with these young kids these days and trying to put together a decent team much less a winning team.? I still think that when Governor Scott signed off on this unlimited transfer idea he had in mind students being allowed to transfer from a poor performing school academically to a good performing school. I just don't think he had in mind allowing kids in sports free rein for unlimited transferring. I fault the FHSAA for not discussing with the Governor the ramifications of unlimited transferring on the sports community.
As a whole I don't think their is an issue in athletics as a whole or just not reported like "Football", but I think "Football" get majority of the attention when it comes to all the movement. Like I once stated I don't think transferring is a bigger issue than the pay those guys receive for coaching in the state of Florida. I think the demands and expectations coaches have to succeed in the state with low pay on top of the difficulty of building a program with so much movement creates a major issue state wide. But to specifically isolate football with the movements and try to put rules in place that target only football players movements will become a dangerous game the state I don't think want to fight because that will open up so much negative back lash, heck they even trying to get the college sit out rule over turned because of all the movements they have with the coaches moving around at the college level. All the moving starts at home with the parents and honestly good luck at trying to stop that...look at the youth league now you have a kid that may have moved to 4 different parks between the ages of 6-13, but all of sudden you think the parents will stop once the kid reach high school?
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4 hours ago, FloTech said:
So you'll catch the Vero and PB Central game then huh
Has the schedule been announced yet?
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4 hours ago, FloTech said:
U coming out to the jamboree
I will try to make it not sure yet I hear its a all day event so I may come more on the later end than the beginning
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12 hours ago, BrowardHandicapper said:
Trying to confirm if Dwyer got a transfer (DB) from another school in the district......
Wouldn't be surprise with the Franklin kid because the brother left last month and went over to Dwyer and i can't see the parents leaving one son at Lakes and the other at Dwyer. So it was a matter of time before the other kid left.
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22 hours ago, FloTech said:
You think they beat PB Central this year
That will be a tough one because I thought Atlantic was the better team last season when they played Central and that one came down to the wire probably one of the top games I attended last season with all the talent on both sides. I will give Atlantic the knob this up coming season but that can change after spring Central will be very good again this season so I can see this one going either way but it should be another good one but right now I'm going with Atlantic in a close one
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On 3/23/2018 at 9:26 AM, BrowardHandicapper said:
So it sounds like the struggle continues for Boynton Beach. What is the outlook of BB football at this point for 2018?
It seems as if the program is in a serious rut.
With the recent success of Atlantic and the job that staff is doing kids are joining that program at a pace that has never been seen in this county and that includes Dwyer and Oxbridge. Atlantic in the past two seasons has pulled multiple players from Oxbridge, Dwyer, a boat load from Boynton, Vista, Santalucies, Village, American Heritage, Spanish River, Boca, and Heights. This team which many agree will be better than the 2016 and 2017 teams they are building something crazy in Delray
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7 hours ago, FloTech said:
Our oline will be mostly Seniors this upcoming season
Majority of them was senior last season right? I know Vero is a factory up north last season they were pretty good I thought that would be the team that get to Orlando
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Been hearing rumors of the possibility of this game happening I think this will be a electrifying ball game, I know their is bad blood on each side and back and forth over the years but to see this game finally happening is a good thing. Now if some way Dwyer and Oxbridge could happen this will be an exciting year to look forward to but right now the Atlantic and Oxbridge Academy game is happening
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2 hours ago, BrowardHandicapper said:
@MuckCityChamp...By the way, did you ever get that list of QBs in PB County or SFL that are convincingly better than Qxbridge Academy QB Geo Richardson?
I think because he lack the major offers or any offers for that matter that I know of some experts or scouting service don't list him as one of the top QB's in the up coming senior class but Gio Richards is right up there maybe the best in my opinion
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Oxbridge will be just find I hear they got two offensive lineman transferred in from Palm Beach Gardens look for Oxbridge to make another run to States this program is not done
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Dwyer I think is being over looked this year I hear this team is stacked wouldn't be surprised if they come out the best team in Palm Beach this year
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Tracey is very understandable but for the Davis kid the move from the Glades to Jupiter is a pretty good stretch for anybody
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1 hour ago, MuckCityChamp said:
2019 Glades Central QB Jazae Tracey is now at Pahokee
2020 Glades Central WR James Davis is now at Dwyer
What is going on at Glades Central? this don't happen in the Glades
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I wouldn't put Atlantic ahead of Palm beach Central this year, head to head last season Palm Beach Central beat Atlantic and that was probably Atlantic best team in history, Palm Beach Central from what I'm hearing brought back majority of their team from last season so I won't be surprise if they are loaded. Oxbridge does not have the depth right now to compete against the top level teams in Palm Beach County right now but if they can add some talent to go with the players they have right now they can have potentially a good team right now. I also hear Dwyer will be pretty good this year as well but my top 5 preseason will have Palm Beach Central right up there with Atlantic, Pahokee and Dwyer, I have to wait and see what happens with Oxbridge because I'm hearing the same thing about them not playing a spring a game because of lack of depth
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The situation doesn't look that serious at all just going full pads a day earlier? doesn't seem to serious so him serving a game suspension in the KOC game seems about right. I wonder who recorded their practice or turned them in lol? must be a rival or someone in district....