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marquette smith made the nfl, was on carolinas roster for 2 seasons. he was hurt and didnt play regular season games, if thats what you were going for. great list

call em like its printed in black and white. was there some issues a couple years back, yep was there some issues several years back, yep. but, the former ADMIN, didnt think it warranted him being fired. apparently the current one thinks liking a tweet and the race card that really was played, when it shouldnt have imo, justifies firing him.

way it reads imo braden river was running illegal practices, venice coach turned them in. he liked a tweet that made fun of the braden river coach(sticks and stones?) and the butt hurt and heavily fined braden river guy turns the tables and pulls the race card out. was told a 2 year old admin staff is at venice, peacock has been there for how long? 15+ years? if that is the case, the new admin have zero ties to him and firing him was easy. im sure there is alot more to the story and there is always 3 sides, yours mine and the truth. but gimmie a break. its all of what @footballfan56 said above, ridiculous.... i hate social media, it absolutely will ruin a kid, parent, coach, family, team, school, president, life....its completely worthless in my honest opinion. none of those things should be free. should pay for it and watch it go away. i dont like seeing what you ate for dinner, your dog chasing its tail, where your at/what themepark, what your watching on tv, what bible verse you are pushing out, who got 1st place in your karate tourney and on and on and on. rant over.

i think alot of that depends on a couple factors. did the HC bring coaches with him(not always the case, sometimes principals will work with new HC and get his guys in the building, sometimes). if the HC did get a few guys in, but there are holdovers from a previous staff, those guys are not leaving. unless its a GA, TX, SC job where the pay is worth the move. a HC leaving and taking his staff will absolutely cripple a school. although I dont necessarily agree with the 80%. maybe 50-60%. but thats not important. jimmies and joes are better than anything, still need a good coach to make jimmie and joe GO. saw a school locally go 6-4 1 year, lose in round 1 of the playoffs, graduate alot and the coach leaves. new guy comes in and new staff(majority of them were new) and he goes 9-2, with lesser talent, but more structure, attention to detail, etc...so yes i do agree it matters on the coach alot.

the pay sucks and its not a factor til you see georgia, south carolina, some of alabama and texas coaches making 100k a year and dont teach, much if any. the admin is either focused on band and the fine arts and dont care about athletics so there is no support.... or the admin is overly focused on athletics/football and after 2 years they want a new coach because you didnt win enough. and the admin changes every 2 or 3 years, new principal/ad that didnt hire the fb coach and his staff wants his own people in there.... the days of staying at 1 spot for 10-15-20 years are over. partly because of the admin moving around so much, the other part coaches are scared to death to stay very long for those above reasons. better to quit a job than get fired. sometimes. my thoughts.

didnt the best rugby player a couple years ago, make the 49ers? cant think of his name, now I have to look it up jarrod hayne. played a little bit, wasnt bad in preseason, quit after a year-said he didnt want to learn a new playbook. back to rugby,

had 1 school pay for clinics, had 1 school give me "official days off" for them too. didnt have to use my own days to take. another school, paid a per diem per day per coach for the clinics, but would not pay for the clinic, hotel, etc.. and we had to take our own personal days off. i think it varies from AD to AD/School to school. Can understand why a school wouldnt pay or give you the temp duty elsewhere day off. if football does it, then all the sports get it too. b4 you know it every sport is taking clinic days.

i edited what I said. the 4-6 now says WINS, as that is what I was implying. those kids yall lost, the stc kids were alright, but did any of the other kids actually play? the 200 kids you lose to toho, how many will be football players? and now, how many will be quality football players. not jersey wearers... anyone with any knowledge of osceola schools knows its ohs getting kids and everyone else scrambling not to lose them. its always been that way. kids zoned for gateway and somehow they end up at "auntie" address and they play ball there. even though they live in marisol or BVL. is what it is....happens in every county. dont get butt hurt about it.

can only speak on them, as thats where ive been the longest in fl. my thoughts in red

my best guess on east river has been the east orlando talent in that area. timber creek is always decent to good. and that area is growing like a weed. some good coaches have gone thru east river(and a couple poor ones, but thats another deal). Their 9-2 last year, regardless of the schedule, is still 9-2. they are 1 of 2 open enrollment schools in orange county. but you doubt that a west side kid would drive all the way to bithlo. lake nona, has to be paradiso. dude knows how to get the best out of his qbs. the tall kid they had last 2 years wasnt a great passer so they ran some single wing type stuff(like timber creek did with patrick). kid they have now at qb is a darin slack prodigy. he can flat out sling it. and of course some WR know they will throw it 30-40-50 times a game so they want to be at nona. gateway finally got some kids to stay home and not go to ohs, but with re zone, idk how much it hurts them. freedoms best kids leave to DP's bench yearly. harmony was bad for a couple years, but showed life last year and are young. liberty hasnt been good since doug nichols was the coach when they first opened. but they do have the original principal back in there now. gary preisser. the rest,,,,you said it best. in con sis tent.

maybe it was 99, sucks getting old. i know ed went 6-4 1 year at colonial, they should have built a statue of him for pulling that stunt. breitbel went 5-5 1 year too. a 2nd statute for him. all kinds of good looking kids have gone thru that school. but never enough.

alot of the problems in orange and osceola county is this, kids would rather go be a back up at _ _ _ _ _ than lose games at _ _ _ _ _. easy example, as it sticks out in my head and never made sense to me as to why. the kelly kid from gateway/osceola. kelly was 2.5 year starter, led gatewy in rushing and helped them to their first playoff birth ever. he was their stud, lots of touches, etc.... for some reason he leaves there his sr year to osceola. and is a back up, limited touches all year. sure they run flexbone and guys mix and match carries as coach nicholls does a great job, but he wasnt necessarily good enough to steal a large amount. at gateway he would have gotten 20 a game, ohs 3-7 per. orange isnt alot different. kids move around alot. ADs/principals for some reason think this is college ball and if you change the head of the show, the program will change. maybe a bit. but if you dont let him stay for 5+, what justice are you doing the kids/program/community. a school in orange just lost a coach who left for a better job. he did an ok job there too. they will hire a new guy, not change 1 assistant and the results will be similar or worse. 3 years later hes out.

i see what you mean old school. yea st cloud is losing around 600 kids and not getting anything back, from what i was told. gateway losing around 1k. harmony 2-300. the new school is opening and playing in st cloud district(7a) that district is HUGE!!! they just added windermere last fall, now toho. liberty, celebration, lake nona, windermere, east river, st cloud, toho, harmony. kinda ruins some non district scheduling for everyone. i would assume that in the next redistrict a couple of those schools are gone, doesnt make much sense to be looped together. east river could easily be in the hagerty district and take out west port and east ridge. nona goes to 8a. windermere too. toho probably stays in that grouping, st cloud petitions up to it and i bet gateway tries to get in it as well. it will be completely up for grabs if that happens

st cloud is defintely not a new school. gateway was built in '85 harmony in 04 celebration around the same time. liberty was the last new school built there. this toho school was supposed to open 8 or 9 years ago to help with the infusion of students. but the 08 bottom falling out of the economy put it in holding pattern. st cloud was renovated to hold 2100 kids, when the enrollment was already 1900. they built a new building at gateway and removed some portables, wasnt enough. they are busting at the seams. what they did with the rezone lines is what is pure shock. moved the "BVL" off gateway to the new school, and gave gateway remington neighboorhood back(which has gone to st cloud for about 10 years). funny how they did nothing to OHS and their zone.....st cloud could drop to 6a, as could gateway in the next redistrict.

colonial has not made the playoffs in the last 14 years, the last time they made the playoffs was 1998, under Ed Kowsha.