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I like the idea of August and September games having a later start time (8:00, 8:30). Many times, that's about what time the games start anyway because of weather delays.
But (and not to completely change the subject of this thread), I'm also the guy who thinks Florida ought to go rogue and switch football and basketball seasons . . . play the indoor game when it's hot and stormy outside and then play the outdoor game when the weather in Florida is just right for football. But, I'll save more on that for a later date.
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Looks like Vanguard is the top team, with Columbia and Steinbrenner battling it out for bridesmaid honors. A lot of north/central Florida teams . . . not exactly a "statewide" tournament (based on teams participating).
What's the scoring system? I see a few odd 7 on 7 scores. I'm guessing traditional scoring with 3 points for an INT?
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31 minutes ago, Big Ray said:
The FHSAA needs to copy what GA is doing!
But you can learn so much more useless information (that will no doubt change over the next two months) and waste so much more time if you just go to MaxPreps and start randomly clicking on various teams and their schedules.
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On 6/8/2019 at 11:52 AM, skyway said:
It appears Lakeland will be receiving several big-name transfers and several more very good HS players. If it remains this way (it isn't unheard of for kids to transfer and then head back to where they came from like Cleveland Reed a few years ago), they will be back to face STA again barring significant injuries. Lake Wales QB Chayil Garnett, 3* Auburn commit; WR Arian Smith, 4* WR and arguably the fastest player in the state; 4* CB Kendall Dennis and a few more starters from elsewhere including a couple of big lineman. This has been posted on multiple social media outlets where the players themselves are tagged, as well as on 247sports' player database. There is a Twitter post on an anonymous account mentioning other big names, but a couple of those players replied that they were not transferring.
OK, I give up. I was trying to post a screenshot I took last night of a Twitter post from on the Tampa Bay Times sports reporters and I just can't seem to figure out how to do it (file size always too big). In any event, the original tweet came from a 10K.sam and it reads: "Dear Lakeland high school can y'all stop calling my people I am not going to Lakeland i am loyal to my school lake Gibson @LHSDreadnaughts"
Interesting.
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19 hours ago, nolebull813 said:
I proudly called this years ago on the national board that once the new rule is implemented basically letting public schools play by the rules as the privates Lakeland will be back to beating STAs ass.
You cant call yourself a true competitive organization and have teams not playing by the same rules. When STA would have double digit transfers from Miami to West Palm no one batted an eye. But when some local Polk County stud wanted to play for the best coach in state history everyone got up in arms.
Now every team can acquire talent how they see fit, and everyone can play under the same rules.
The problem is that not every school plays by the same rules, at least not in Hillsborough County. In theory, any family can move into a particular school's district and then be able to attend that school. Also, that same family can stay right where they are and their kid still has the right/ability to attend any other school in the district/county, with one major caveat: the school cannot be at or above capacity. So, a school in a less densely populated part of the County with a mediocre academic reputation/ranking, that is not at capacity, can accommodate an unlimited number of transferring students. Whereas a school in a more populated area with a strong academic reputation/ranking, that has been over capacity for years, can only accommodate a transfer if that kid's family moves into the district. And, of course, private schools can do whatever the heck they want to and, thus, can accommodate any kid they want to whenever they want to regardless of where the family lives.
Free agency doesn't work unless all schools are playing on the same, level playing field and that simply isn't the case. My guess is that Lakeland, for example, would see far fewer transfers if kids who want to transfer into Lakeland actually had to move into the Lakeland district. That's not a knock on Lakeland; it's just a reminder that not all public schools are in the same 'boat.' That assumption is based on some quick research that indicates that Lakeland's student population is well below capacity. If I'm wrong on that, please correct me with the right info.
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1 hour ago, nolebull813 said:
One more. Championship game was played at Plant City High
Pinecrest? Won the title in 1969 and then closed three years later.
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#3 - Armwood ('03, '04 and '11 with an asterisk), Blake ('69), Jefferson ('10), Jesuit ('68), and Plant ('06, '08, '09, and '11).
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What a coincidence that five players would all decide, independently and with no nudging, to transfer to the same high school.
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Ray Ray's younger brother, Jordan, has a chance to earn the starting QB job at USF this year.
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24 minutes ago, nolebull813 said:
Yeah, that was one of the sites I had seen. Perhaps it would have been clearer if I had said that I had not found a 'proprietary website devoted exclusively to the Guy Toph Award' (like, www.guytoph.com).
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Brothers Andre and Reche Caldwell. Both played at Jefferson High School in Tampa and both went on the play college football at UF. Obviously, Andre played with Denver (along with a couple other NFL teams) and Reche played for the Patriots (along with a couple of other NFL teams).
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In answer to your last question, Davis is playing at the University of Florida, where he hopes to rebound from an early-season, season-ending knee injury.
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9 hours ago, Jambun82 said:
Dan Burke always had a good program at Palm Bay. The book on the Pirates was that the team ran about five plays from two different formations, but they still couldn't be stopped because they were fundamentally sound and had great personnel.
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One more thing worth noting: I can't find a website devoted to the award, but several sites make mention that the "Guy Toph Award has been presented to senior football players who excel on the field and in the classroom." So, apparently, there is an academic element involved that might cause/prompt some folks to give the nod to one player over another player that seemingly has a tad more talent.
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11 hours ago, Dan in Daytona said:
Cross City, like his father. A famous female author wrote a book, and a movie followed years later. Cross City was the location. Her name and the book/movie slips my mind.
I think you're thinking of "The Yearling" by Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings.
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Rashean Mathis. Englewood High School (Jax).
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17 hours ago, gatorman-uf said:
Robert Marve
Aaron Murray
Stephen Garciaare 3 of my guesses
Yes on Marve; no on Murray and Garcia.
Here's a list of the winners since 1990 (the award dates back to 1939):
2018: Braxton Plunk, Plant City
2017: Michael Penix, Tampa Bay Tech
2016: Malik Davis, Jesuit
2015: Markese Hargrove, Plant City
2014: Ray Ray McCloud III, Sickles
2013: Deiondre Porter, Jefferson
2012: Vernon Hargreaves, Wharton
2011: Nelson Agholor, Berkeley Prep
2010: Quentin Williams, Jefferson
2009: C.J. Bennett, Alonso
2008: Dontae Aycock, Chamberlain
2007: Derek Winter, Plant
2006: Robert Marve, Plant
2005: Marcello Trigg, Robinson
2004: Kalvin Bailey, Armwood
2003: John Forbes, Alonso
2002: Andre Caldwell, Jefferson
2001: Eddie Lee Ivery Jr., Chamberlain
2000: Lydell Ross, Gaither
1999: Fred Reid, King
1998: Gary Godsey, Jesuit
1997: Mike Pearson, Armwood
1996: Kenny Kelly, Tampa Catholic
1995: Derrick Edmonds, Hillsborough
1994: Keith Newman, Jefferson
1993: Cliff Dell, King
1992: Brett Zinober, Berkeley Prep
1991: Brian Adcock, Chamberlain
1990: Gary Moore, East Bay
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5 minutes ago, Dan in Daytona said:
Just saw the thread....was in la,la land
As opposed to tra, tra land?
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10 hours ago, OldSchoolLion said:
In case anyone is interested St Thomas 52-8(87%) and Lakeland 42-7(86%) just missed the list.
Looks like Plant wasn't too far behind either. I've got them at 85% (45-8), with regular season losses to Armwood (3) and Colquit Co., and playoff losses to Lakeland (2), STA, and Bartram Trail.
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I think the simple answer is this: if the kid transfers to another school that is a member of the FHSAA, the suspension will follow him and he'll miss the first six games. If he transfers to a school that is not a member of the FHSAA, he can play right away.
That said, six games for a 'sideline altercation' seems pretty steep to me. Were others involved? Was the punishment consistent? First time offense for the kid? Any extenuating circumstances? Has an appeal been taken? Film available?
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Just curious: what warranted a 6-game suspension?
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Oooh, I think I know this one without having to do any Internet research: that's Wes Chandler. All-American at UF; All pro with the San Diego Chargers. New Smyrna Beach High School, if memory serves me correct. A lot more accolades that I'm not remembering off the top of my head.
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28 minutes ago, Proseteye said:
Well, let's see. He's an experienced coach and he probably knows that teams always get more players over the summer and it's just a matter of mathematics. More students registering more players on the team. Looking at some good talent is more of a hope than an affirmation. But, then again you're trying to insinuate an ulterior motive aren't you now? If that were the case why did the Celtics go 5-5 last season?
Ok, let's get a couple of things straight.
First, I have no idea why the team went 5-5 last year. Unless I look it up on MaxPreps, I seriously doubt I could name a single one of their opponents from last season or this season.
Second, I'm not trying to insinuate anything, much less an ulterior motive. I was simply asking a question based on my understanding that high school football coaches (or any 'representatives of a school’s athletic interests' for that matter) are prohibited from talking with prospective students about playing football until the students are registered -- regardless of whether the school is public or private.
If you had said something along the lines of "based on prior years, 10-15 new kids will show up over the summer and be playing on the football team by the time of the KOC," I wouldn't have said a word. Or, if you had said something along the lines of "Rumor has it that 10-15 new kids will be joining the team over the summer," again, I wouldn't have asked the question that I did. But, when you start your post out with "According to coach," and then follow it with "he's looking at some good talent joining the team," well, that doesn't leave much to the imagination, now does it? I'll just assume that the coach is very optimistic and was just doing some out-loud, wishful thinking.
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That is one of the downsides, but it could possibly be offset by the fact that college coaches (from teams whose seasons have ended or even from teams that are in bowl games) could actually attend the high school games without having to leave at the end of the first quarter to rush back for their own Saturday game. They could even attend practices. Same with basketball: coaches could attend more games because their season will not have started yet.
The other reason why some people wouldn't like it is because it would likely eliminate OOS games and, thus, the opportunity to compete for a mythical national championship.
Not to get all melodramatic, but last week a kid from Tampa died during summer workouts. I just saw on Twitter that the same thing just happened to another a 15-year kid in Louisiana. Without opening up a political debate, the science behind global warming may ultimately lead the folks in charge of high school and youth sports to look more closely at when certain outdoor activities are taking place.